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Sam Boyz
post Mar 16 2007, 03:35 PM
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This debate is supposed to act as the end all to all these religion topics that keep bouncing around. It is as it says: God Vs. Atheism, religion vs Antireligion. (I can’t say against science, because plenty of people believe in both, and if you do, please feel free to post here).

The Argument of Religion:
First of all, do you really believe that the universe appeared out of no-where(The Big Bang)?

If a brand new model of a computer popped up out of no-where in front of you, would you ever think that it actually happened, or would you think you are hallucinating?
Would you think that somehow all those computer chips and materials came together to form a brand-new computer, or would you think someone created it?. The creator is God.

Use your common sense; if something BLEW UP BY ITSELF, would there be chaos, or neatness?


The Argument of Antireligion:
Really, the core of this argument is that religion has very little proof that all the claims it makes are true. There is a large amount of proof against religion being completely true though:
The Geologic Time Scale
Evolution
Darwinism
Big Bang Theory
As well as many inaccuracies in the Holy Texts.

Please. If you want to participate in this debate, read the evidence from both sides of view before posting. You don’t want to make yourself appear dumb.

If you feel like there should be something added to this post, PM me.


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- Sam Boyz   God Vs. Atheism   Mar 16 2007, 03:35 PM
- - Dobbo   I agree with the big bang theory mostly, as if the...   Mar 16 2007, 03:39 PM
- - Lethal   There's a slight difference between the explos...   Mar 16 2007, 03:40 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(Lethal @ Mar 16 2007, 03:40 PM) The...   Mar 16 2007, 03:42 PM
- - lilshu   Things do crash into each other. Meteors, heck, ev...   Mar 16 2007, 03:42 PM
- - Paragen   I defenitely believe in the big bang theory, there...   Mar 16 2007, 03:43 PM
- - Common Sense   I think the Big Bang is currently the best explana...   Mar 16 2007, 04:02 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(Common Sense @ Mar 16 2007, 04:02 P...   Mar 16 2007, 04:04 PM
|- - sir ajacobs   I personally believe nothing in the world could ha...   Mar 17 2007, 12:07 PM
|- - Nick   QUOTE(sir ajacobs @ Mar 17 2007, 09:07 AM...   Mar 17 2007, 01:27 PM
- - Theo   I don't believe in the big bang theory becuase...   Mar 16 2007, 04:11 PM
- - Common Sense   QUOTE(Sam Boyz)But you didn't answer my questi...   Mar 16 2007, 04:14 PM
|- - Theo   QUOTE(Common Sense @ Mar 16 2007, 03:14 P...   Mar 16 2007, 04:33 PM
|- - Steve   Lilshu, this is a debate room on a RuneScape forum...   Mar 16 2007, 05:16 PM
- - RedSwift   I for one believe in the Big Bang Theory. Its muc...   Mar 16 2007, 04:15 PM
- - sultan   Sam Boyz, for you (أَوَ...   Mar 16 2007, 04:23 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(sultan @ Mar 16 2007, 04:23 PM) Sam...   Mar 16 2007, 04:28 PM
- - lilshu   QUOTEOK LOOK EVERYBODY, THE POINT OF THIS THREAD I...   Mar 16 2007, 04:35 PM
- - Sam Boyz   Even if that theory is true, It could only have be...   Mar 16 2007, 04:36 PM
|- - lilshu   QUOTE(Sam Boyz @ Mar 16 2007, 06:06 PM) E...   Mar 16 2007, 04:37 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(lilshu @ Mar 16 2007, 04:37 PM) QUO...   Mar 16 2007, 04:39 PM
- - lilshu   Because the sun's gravitational force has stab...   Mar 16 2007, 04:41 PM
- - Sam Boyz   QUOTEBecause the sun's gravitational force has...   Mar 16 2007, 04:43 PM
- - lilshu   Not everything has sufficient mass to be properly ...   Mar 16 2007, 04:44 PM
- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(but really, do some research and you'd f...   Mar 16 2007, 04:48 PM
|- - lilshu   QUOTE(Sam Boyz @ Mar 16 2007, 06:18 PM) Q...   Mar 16 2007, 04:50 PM
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- - lilshu   If you're only in 6th grade then you're de...   Mar 16 2007, 04:55 PM
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- - Sam Boyz   QUOTEThere is a junkyard south of town. One day it...   Mar 16 2007, 05:18 PM
|- - Steve   QUOTE(Sam Boyz @ Mar 16 2007, 05:18 PM) Q...   Mar 16 2007, 05:26 PM
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- - mystery_phill   Red = My interjections. QUOTE(A lecture Stephen H...   Mar 16 2007, 05:47 PM
- - assassin   QUOTE(the hawkeye @ Mar 16 2007, 05:37 PM...   Mar 16 2007, 06:09 PM
- - RedSwift   QUOTE(mystery_phill @ Mar 16 2007, 04:47 ...   Mar 16 2007, 06:13 PM
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- - Sam Boyz   I would suggest all atheists read this book(ALL of...   Mar 16 2007, 07:48 PM
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- - Sam Boyz   QUOTEAlso please note, the quote in bold has got e...   Mar 16 2007, 10:13 PM
- - lilshu   So that we don't have to read through all of i...   Mar 16 2007, 10:14 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(lilshu @ Mar 16 2007, 10:14 PM) So ...   Mar 16 2007, 10:19 PM
- - mystery_phill   What ???, That book supports the big bang theory, ...   Mar 16 2007, 10:37 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(mystery_phill @ Mar 16 2007, 10:37 ...   Mar 16 2007, 10:43 PM
- - Nick   I agree and you make some very obvious common sens...   Mar 16 2007, 10:52 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(Nick @ Mar 16 2007, 10:52 PM) I agr...   Mar 16 2007, 10:56 PM
|- - Jose0   QUOTE(Nick @ Mar 16 2007, 08:52 PM) I agr...   Mar 16 2007, 11:07 PM
|- - Steve   QUOTE(Jose0 @ Mar 16 2007, 11:07 PM) QUOT...   Mar 16 2007, 11:09 PM
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- - Sam Boyz   QUOTEIt isn't proof, its evidenceIt's the ...   Mar 16 2007, 11:39 PM
- - mormril   Well, just to throw in my two cents. I think the b...   Mar 16 2007, 11:40 PM
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||- - Erion   QUOTE(Steve @ Mar 16 2007, 10:55 PM) QUOT...   Mar 17 2007, 01:15 AM
|- - Jose0   QUOTE(mormril @ Mar 16 2007, 09:40 PM) We...   Mar 17 2007, 08:39 PM
- - Nacho Cheese   QUOTE(Yusuf Estes)There is a junkyard south of tow...   Mar 16 2007, 11:42 PM
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- - Nacho Cheese   QUOTEQUOTEEarth took around 9 billion years to for...   Mar 16 2007, 11:59 PM
- - assassin   QUOTEwe know that somehow, God arranged them neatl...   Mar 17 2007, 12:11 AM
- - jato   QUOTEWHERE DID THE 1ST ATOM COME FROM?Where did yo...   Mar 17 2007, 12:30 AM
- - mystery_phill   QUOTE(Sam boys's article)The greatest support ...   Mar 17 2007, 12:44 AM
- - mystery_phill   QUOTE(Steve)I think to say that either case has pr...   Mar 17 2007, 01:19 AM
- - mormril   QUOTE(Steve @ Mar 16 2007, 10:55 PM) Your...   Mar 17 2007, 09:42 AM
|- - lilshu   QUOTE(mormril @ Mar 17 2007, 11:12 AM) Th...   Mar 17 2007, 11:47 AM
- - Common Sense   QUOTE(mormril @ Mar 16 2007, 08:40 PM) I ...   Mar 17 2007, 10:29 AM
- - Sam Boyz   Here , you want to know about the Existence of God...   Mar 17 2007, 11:54 AM
- - lilshu   Yes, books, carpets, rooms... these are all manmad...   Mar 17 2007, 12:02 PM
- - Steve   Thanks phill for reading part of the article. Q...   Mar 17 2007, 12:22 PM
- - sir ajacobs   QUOTEOk. As much fun as it is to always be on the ...   Mar 17 2007, 12:23 PM
- - Common Sense   QUOTE(sir ajacobs @ Mar 17 2007, 09:07 AM...   Mar 17 2007, 01:43 PM
- - Sam Boyz   All atheists that believe in the Darwinist lie cal...   Mar 17 2007, 02:41 PM
|- - lilshu   QUOTE(Sam Boyz @ Mar 17 2007, 04:11 PM) A...   Mar 17 2007, 04:02 PM
|- - Steve   QUOTE(lilshu @ Mar 17 2007, 04:02 PM) QUO...   Mar 17 2007, 04:17 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(Steve @ Mar 17 2007, 04:17 PM) QUOT...   Mar 17 2007, 07:41 PM
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- - mystery_phill   QUOTE(Sir A)Irish Farmer from another forum Im joi...   Mar 17 2007, 03:50 PM
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- - Nacho Cheese   QUOTE(mormril @ Mar 17 2007, 05:42 AM) QU...   Mar 17 2007, 04:25 PM
- - mystery_phill   QUOTE(Nacho Cheese @ Mar 17 2007, 03:25 P...   Mar 17 2007, 04:49 PM
- - Nacho Cheese   QUOTE(mystery_phill @ Mar 17 2007, 12:49 ...   Mar 17 2007, 05:42 PM
- - lilshu   I believe he did: http://www.literature.org/author...   Mar 17 2007, 07:58 PM
- - Sam Boyz   Whoa......that's a HUGE book. I don't have...   Mar 17 2007, 08:00 PM
- - lilshu   That book is the basis of the majority of evolutio...   Mar 17 2007, 08:01 PM
|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(lilshu @ Mar 17 2007, 08:01 PM) Tha...   Mar 17 2007, 08:05 PM
- - lilshu   The Fossil Record. The further down a fossil is (t...   Mar 17 2007, 08:07 PM
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- - Sam Boyz   RE: God Vs. Atheism   Mar 17 2007, 09:17 PM
- - lilshu   I'm not going to read that. But I have noticed...   Mar 17 2007, 09:24 PM
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|- - Sam Boyz   QUOTE(lilshu @ Mar 17 2007, 09:39 PM) Fro...   Mar 17 2007, 09:42 PM
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- - Common Sense   Why should I listen to a radical creationist who...   Mar 17 2007, 09:49 PM
- - mystery_phill   QUOTEThe theory of evolution was put forward as an...   Mar 17 2007, 09:52 PM
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