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King Aragorn
post Apr 30 2009, 11:33 AM
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We are getting a new broadband, because of getting digital TV in HD.
But im not usre that its at all any positive, becasue we get 10Mb dealt on 7 PCs.
Will this be a good speed or a speed that (sorry for the word) suck?
Because i dont want to play Halo with lag that makes it unplayable 24/7.

The broadband was supposed to be cheaper..
And mum says that we dont get the supposed speed either from the current.
Maybe some of it is because she uses only the wireless?
I use the cable, which is my trusty friend, and it always delivers speed up in 700kb/s maximum on the internet.
I am a Halo-player that plays alot and want NO lag because i dont play good with lag.
And i need fast download and up speed.
And SERIOUSLY.
the up-speed is only 1.8Mb/s!!!!
I think the up speed will change the lag alot becasue you upload it to the game server about where you go and do.

But my mum also say we use net through the old phone-net from old times, it has never been upgraded in over 20 years..

And al ittle speed-test made the speed 2866kb/ps.
Which is actually more then it would be at the new if it was dealt.

And info about the existing one, its for up to 50mb/ps.


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post Apr 30 2009, 11:36 AM
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What is your current download/upload speed and what are is the maximum download/upload speed (the one they advertise) of the new one.
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post Apr 30 2009, 12:58 PM
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The current i dont know sure, but its surely VERY high. (Think it was maybe 100Mb/ps? or 50?)
The advertised was 10Mb/ps down and 1,8Mb/ps up.
And divide it with 7, and youll get my coming speed... dry.gif

But a speedtest showed 2880Kb/ps down on the current.


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post Apr 30 2009, 01:01 PM
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http://speedtest.net/

Check your speed with that. Even 7mb/s is fast. I have 3mb/s and can any online game I want while browsing the internet with no lag.
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post Apr 30 2009, 01:22 PM
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But remember that its DIVIDED into 7, which is low.
At that speed test i got 3.6Mb/s download and 0.38Mb/s upload.
With the new one i will get approximately 1,42 down and 0,25 up.
That will be the end of my high speed...
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WHY do they think of PRICE infornt of SPEED? angry.gif
Its the quality that matters angry.gif

Ok, it kinda better now; if it moves slow, we will upgrade to another broadband from same ISP.


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post May 17 2009, 12:55 PM
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Unless your using your computer as a webserver or you upload alot of HD video then upload speed is irrelevant.

10mb/s is good for gaming.


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Reason for edit: Emo Nemo bumped this topic, but since discussion has started up again, I'm leaving it open. -lilshu
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post May 17 2009, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ May 17 2009, 12:55 PM) *
Unless your using your computer as a webserver or you upload alot of HD video then upload speed is irrelevant.

10mb/s is good for gaming.

Depending on the cost 10mb/s could be fairly steep (I know where I live it barely gets that fast). 3mb/s is a good speed. I can have the 360 on multiplayer while playing online games on my pc and downloading a 1gb file (downloads in about 1 hour) and there's no lag. wink.gif
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post May 17 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ May 17 2009, 07:55 PM) *
Unless your using your computer as a webserver or you upload alot of HD video then upload speed is irrelevant.

10mb/s is good for gaming.

It would be 3MB/s down.
But isnt 1,8Mb/s up little low? huh.gif
I believe my up-speed can affect games like Halo.. mellow.gif

(But we could actually get up in 60Mb/s evil.gif )


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post May 17 2009, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 17 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ May 17 2009, 07:55 PM) *
Unless your using your computer as a webserver or you upload alot of HD video then upload speed is irrelevant.

10mb/s is good for gaming.

It would be 3MB/s down.
But isnt 1,8Mb/s up little low? huh.gif
I believe my up-speed can affect games like Halo.. mellow.gif

I have 512kb/s up and never lag with multiple online games at the same time. wink.gif
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post May 18 2009, 04:09 AM
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I have 10mb line going to my house, doesnt lag when theres 3 comps playing games and a ps3 going, Really cheap too where I live because the Phone/Internet is a crown corporation(government owned) Paying about 30 bucks canadian for it, or 25 american tongue.gif, hardly ever down either, usually only when the power is out from a huge storm lol
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post May 18 2009, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (redmonke @ May 17 2009, 08:39 PM) *
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 17 2009, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ May 17 2009, 07:55 PM) *
Unless your using your computer as a webserver or you upload alot of HD video then upload speed is irrelevant.

10mb/s is good for gaming.

It would be 3MB/s down.
But isnt 1,8Mb/s up little low? huh.gif
I believe my up-speed can affect games like Halo.. mellow.gif

I have 512kb/s up and never lag with multiple online games at the same time. wink.gif

Wow.. mellow.gif
What networks do you use over there? huh.gif
But i dont understand: how can the speed go up by getting just a new ISP?
We have the same net around the area?
And once i even saw that the cables underground were looking old. (We made a new parking place ot avoid plants and grass)
And our speed would even be supposed to 50Mb/s now, total.
And we never used maximum.. that sucks, not to use the full power of the net we pay for..
i ownder where they get that high speed, is it in the city they have best net? pfft.gif

i do hope it gets better speed. mellow.gif
because i use to get around 78 to 2000 in ping at Halo.
And i see it counts on how the gamelay online is, i use to just like, teleport on the field and get kicked or banned from the server for it bleh.gif
now i cant even find a The_Land_of_hyrule_v.02 server to play on.. cry.gif
Its just unfair.. that they judge after your ping.. dry.gif


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post May 18 2009, 11:04 AM
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BTW King Aragorn, I get no where near that speed for upload. 10Mb download, and 512K upload also, UK sucks for upload compared to America etc I think.
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post May 18 2009, 03:01 PM
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Having 512kb upload must suck.. slanty.gif (Sorry for bad word)
A turbo3G phone gets higher speed, and they plan even better at 7,2MB down instantly because the network is always good connected (The planned net is 4G)
But i dont expect a change in speed actually, its the same net, just cheaper to have it rolleyes.gif
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post May 18 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 18 2009, 04:01 PM) *
Having 512kb upload must suck.. slanty.gif (Sorry for bad word)
A turbo3G phone gets higher speed, and they plan even better at 7,2MB down instantly because the network is always good connected (The planned net is 4G)
But i dont expect a change in speed actually, its the same net, just cheaper to have it rolleyes.gif


The thing is that upload is not needed most of the time your computer just sends requests to the server which only take up a few kb's.

The only time upload is needed is when uploading pictures or videos to a site and even then 512kb works for most.
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post May 19 2009, 01:52 PM
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Upload is needed for playing online with Halo, how else would others see that you move?
Or do they just send the position and action information only? (That is a clever way)
If thats hte case, i wonder why i get so bad connection.. huh.gif
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post May 19 2009, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 19 2009, 02:52 PM) *
Upload is needed for playing online with Halo, how else would others see that you move?
Or do they just send the position and action information only? (That is a clever way)
If thats hte case, i wonder why i get so bad connection.. huh.gif

Aren't Halo's servers notoriously laggy, regardless of what internet connection you have? I've been hearing people complain about that for the past 2 years.


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How else would they do it?


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QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 19 2009, 02:52 PM) *
Upload is needed for playing online with Halo, how else would others see that you move?
Or do they just send the position and action information only? (That is a clever way)
If thats hte case, i wonder why i get so bad connection.. huh.gif



Your computer sends basic information like your characters coordinates what weapon your using what animation is being performed etc. The server receives this info and sends back data to you and other players computers which then updates your screen.
The reason why download is so important is because your computer in gameplay is constantly downloading maps, images, and info to keep the client updated.
Compared to your computer just sending small information packets.
Only computers that need huge upload speeds are servers and people who upload Long or HD video and those who upload programs and pictures with huge file sizes onto the web.


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QUOTE (lilshu @ May 19 2009, 09:05 PM) *
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ May 19 2009, 02:52 PM) *
Upload is needed for playing online with Halo, how else would others see that you move?
Or do they just send the position and action information only? (That is a clever way)
If thats hte case, i wonder why i get so bad connection.. huh.gif

Aren't Halo's servers notoriously laggy, regardless of what internet connection you have? I've been hearing people complain about that for the past 2 years.


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Or do they just send the position and action information only? (That is a clever way)

How else would they do it?

Once upon a time (This is not a fairytale..) i didnt lag at all, just plain and nice.
Which was the ifrst time i played online.
I thought it was a huge desert on Bloodgulch laugh.gif (And suddenly pwned from behind by a melee... dry.gif )
I remember that as lag-free all the time.
But lastly i have only played Ce, is that a difference?
Its mostly same maps? (without some custom ones)
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If your using a router you can stop the lagg by getting a switch instead.... I have 3 pc's on a 6mb connection and never anyproblems even when we all log into same game. Routers kill your speed IMO
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QUOTE (adrenalsky @ May 21 2009, 03:22 AM) *
If your using a router you can stop the lagg by getting a switch instead.... I have 3 pc's on a 6mb connection and never anyproblems even when we all log into same game. Routers kill your speed IMO

This is a TOTALLY different situation:
We have 8 PCs connected, 4 of the ports are full, and we use wireless.
You must have totally not read all of the details.
Before the current we used a router with ONLY 4 ports and no WiFi.
And then i didnt even have connection all the time, which sucked because i had to share connection with my sister while the other 3 ports were all the time connected.
We tried a switch once when my sister got her portable computer, and it ended up giving only 1 connection to net on 1 cable and the other PC was registered offline.
No switch, but a Dual-router is what we have now (Router and modem and a WiFi sender/receiver)

The router we have now is great because we can connect unlimited computers without reducing speed for the PCs because we have paid for 50MB, how could that make lag?


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