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post Jun 7 2009, 11:22 AM
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Okay my friend is planning on getting a new gaming laptop with 16GB of RAM. I think this is crazy but i wanted to know what you all think. Does he need all that memory?
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:23 AM
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No. He can't even do anything with it either, unless he's using a specialized OS. 32bit OSs can surport around 3GB, 64bit i think is 6-8GB.
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Caboose @ Jun 7 2009, 12:23 PM) *
No. He can't even do anything with it either, unless he's using a specialized OS. 32bit OSs can surport around 3GB, 64bit i think is 6-8GB.



64bit Vista Business,Ultimate, and Enterprise support 128GB's of RAM.

And currently 16GB of RAM is nothing more then bragging rights. The CPU will probably be at its limits before you use 16gb


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post Jun 7 2009, 11:26 AM
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He says that 64 bit takes the cap off. so he can have as much RAM as he wants
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (LP Forever @ Jun 7 2009, 12:26 PM) *
He says that 64 bit takes the cap off. so he can have as much RAM as he wants


Well that's not true either. 64bit can handle alot more RAM then 32bit but it certainly can't handle a infinite amount. How much RAM 64bit can handle also depends on the address space.


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post Jun 7 2009, 11:37 AM
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The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb.
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 7 2009, 12:37 PM) *
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb.


Dell Precision workstation laptops support 16GB
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ Jun 7 2009, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 7 2009, 12:37 PM) *
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb.


Dell Precision workstation laptops support 16GB

Then again, those are $2000+ laptops for businesses. huh.gif
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post Jun 7 2009, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 7 2009, 12:42 PM) *
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QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 7 2009, 12:37 PM) *
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb.


Dell Precision workstation laptops support 16GB

Then again, those are $2000+ laptops for businesses. huh.gif


But hey who are we to judge on what people can afford. O_o

I thought it was unrealistic too that he would buy one so expensive but I honestly can't judge ones finances.
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post Jun 7 2009, 01:16 PM
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Wait lets face the facts
Who the hell would need 16GB of RAM? That's just harming the environment and resources.
If your going to play games max is around 8GB of RAM.
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post Jun 7 2009, 01:39 PM
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Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash biggrin.gif Additionally, to use more than 4GB of RAM you need a 64-bit OS. That can be a pain because some programs won't work on 64-bit, which is why I stick with 32-bit for everyday usage.

Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM smile.gif


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post Jun 7 2009, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE (Cattius @ Jun 7 2009, 02:39 PM) *
Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash biggrin.gif Additionally, to use more than 4GB of RAM you need a 64-bit OS. That can be a pain because some programs won't work on 64-bit, which is why I stick with 32-bit for everyday usage.

Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM smile.gif



Lol but I heard the newest edition of Norton would need 2-4GB's of RAM xD Sorry I had to.
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post Jun 7 2009, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (Emo_Nemo @ Jun 7 2009, 01:47 PM) *
QUOTE (Cattius @ Jun 7 2009, 02:39 PM) *
Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash biggrin.gif Additionally, to use more than 4GB of RAM you need a 64-bit OS. That can be a pain because some programs won't work on 64-bit, which is why I stick with 32-bit for everyday usage.

Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM smile.gif



Lol but I heard the newest edition of Norton would need 2-4GB's of RAM xD Sorry I had to.


Uhhh if Norton needed 2-4GB of RAM then more than 90% of the computers being sold would not be able to run it, as far as I know Norton 2009 only takes about 7mb of RAM, suppose to be less RAM not more. tongue.gif


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post Jun 8 2009, 10:14 AM
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There's very little reason for 16GB on a gaming machine. 4-8GB is more than enough. Plus he'll go broke putting four 4GB sticks into a system--last I checked the price for one stick is $150-200.
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post Jun 8 2009, 05:45 PM
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64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.
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post Jun 8 2009, 09:02 PM
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64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.

explain to me what anyone would do with 1.5TB of RAM
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post Jun 8 2009, 09:45 PM
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64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.

I don't think that's correct...

I know Ubuntu 64bit only allows you to have 64gb of RAM, and Win7 only allows 192gb.
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post Jun 8 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (LP Forever @ Jun 8 2009, 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Reloaded @ Jun 8 2009, 05:45 PM) *
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.

explain to me what anyone would do with 1.5TB of RAM


Supercomputers use that much ram in really intense calculations you can never have enough



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64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.


Really depends on the address space of the OS you could make a OS support petabytes of RAM if you wanted.


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QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 8 2009, 10:45 PM) *
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64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.

I don't think that's correct...

I know Ubuntu 64bit only allows you to have 64gb of RAM, and Win7 only allows 192gb.

I know nothing of tech stuff, but iirc, in a 32 bit system, you have a maximum of 2^32 bytes of ram, or 4GB.

Would the theoretical limit for a 64 bit system be 2^64 bytes of ram? (Something like... 15 million terabytes of ram lol)

There's a limit most processors use though, for max ram amount, isn't there? Not to mention motherboard size, hehe. But then again, couldn't you link up a bunch of 4x4GB mobos to allow multiple processors and ram on a single machine? Or is that not possible.


I'm here to learn! Please teach me! box.gif Although this is largely offtopic. :3


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post Jun 8 2009, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (lilshu @ Jun 8 2009, 09:53 PM) *
QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 8 2009, 10:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Reloaded @ Jun 8 2009, 05:45 PM) *
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.

I don't think that's correct...

I know Ubuntu 64bit only allows you to have 64gb of RAM, and Win7 only allows 192gb.

I know nothing of tech stuff, but iirc, in a 32 bit system, you have a maximum of 2^32 bytes of ram, or 4GB.

Would the theoretical limit for a 64 bit system be 2^64 bytes of ram? (Something like... 15 million terabytes of ram lol)

There's a limit most processors use though, for max ram amount, isn't there? Not to mention motherboard size, hehe. But then again, couldn't you link up a bunch of 4x4GB mobos to allow multiple processors and ram on a single machine? Or is that not possible.


I'm here to learn! Please teach me! box.gif Although this is largely offtopic. :3

It can handle that much in theory, but (something like this) the kernel is what determines the maximum amount. smile.gif
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