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Jun 7 2009, 11:22 AM
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Albatross ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 1, 2007 Member No.: 53,157 Posts: 830 Skin: RuneScape Black R.S. Name: trecko60 R.S. Status: Retired R.S. Clan: White Flames Clan |
Okay my friend is planning on getting a new gaming laptop with 16GB of RAM. I think this is crazy but i wanted to know what you all think. Does he need all that memory?
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Jun 7 2009, 11:23 AM
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Ultimate Spammer! ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 13, 2006 Member No.: 19,181 Posts: 5,144 Skin: Darkness From: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha R.S. Name: Masterchefsp R.S. Status: Inactive |
No. He can't even do anything with it either, unless he's using a specialized OS. 32bit OSs can surport around 3GB, 64bit i think is 6-8GB.
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Jun 7 2009, 11:26 AM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
No. He can't even do anything with it either, unless he's using a specialized OS. 32bit OSs can surport around 3GB, 64bit i think is 6-8GB. 64bit Vista Business,Ultimate, and Enterprise support 128GB's of RAM. And currently 16GB of RAM is nothing more then bragging rights. The CPU will probably be at its limits before you use 16gb This post has been edited by Emo_Nemo: Jun 7 2009, 11:29 AM |
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Jun 7 2009, 11:26 AM
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Albatross ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 1, 2007 Member No.: 53,157 Posts: 830 Skin: RuneScape Black R.S. Name: trecko60 R.S. Status: Retired R.S. Clan: White Flames Clan |
He says that 64 bit takes the cap off. so he can have as much RAM as he wants
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Jun 7 2009, 11:32 AM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
He says that 64 bit takes the cap off. so he can have as much RAM as he wants Well that's not true either. 64bit can handle alot more RAM then 32bit but it certainly can't handle a infinite amount. How much RAM 64bit can handle also depends on the address space. This post has been edited by Emo_Nemo: Jun 7 2009, 11:32 AM |
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Jun 7 2009, 11:37 AM
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Odd Old Man ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 14, 2006 Member No.: 27,897 Posts: 12,921 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Your...Dallas...STAAAAAAA AAAAARSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! R.S. Name: redmonke255 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Hannah Montana fan club!!1 |
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb.
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Jun 7 2009, 11:39 AM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
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Jun 7 2009, 11:42 AM
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Odd Old Man ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 14, 2006 Member No.: 27,897 Posts: 12,921 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Your...Dallas...STAAAAAAA AAAAARSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! R.S. Name: redmonke255 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Hannah Montana fan club!!1 |
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb. Dell Precision workstation laptops support 16GB Then again, those are $2000+ laptops for businesses. |
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Jun 7 2009, 11:45 AM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
The motherboard will need to be able to support 16gb. As far as I've seen, laptop motherboards only support 8gb and rarely 12gb. Dell Precision workstation laptops support 16GB Then again, those are $2000+ laptops for businesses. But hey who are we to judge on what people can afford. O_o I thought it was unrealistic too that he would buy one so expensive but I honestly can't judge ones finances. |
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Jun 7 2009, 01:16 PM
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Posessed Pickaxe ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: November 5, 2005 Member No.: 755 Posts: 1,425 Skin: Invision Pro From: Alberta, Canada R.S. Name: Peacemanfunk R.S. Status: Retired R.S. Clan: Retired |
Wait lets face the facts
Who the hell would need 16GB of RAM? That's just harming the environment and resources. If your going to play games max is around 8GB of RAM. |
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Jun 7 2009, 01:39 PM
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Willow Logs ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: April 7, 2008 Member No.: 60,877 Posts: 1,207 Skin: Darkness From: Midlands, England My Highscores: ICattius R.S. Name: iCattius R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Choc's classic Du Bist Turd. |
Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash
Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM This post has been edited by Cattius: Jun 7 2009, 01:40 PM |
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Jun 7 2009, 02:47 PM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM Lol but I heard the newest edition of Norton would need 2-4GB's of RAM xD Sorry I had to. |
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Jun 7 2009, 03:57 PM
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Posessed Pickaxe ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: November 5, 2005 Member No.: 755 Posts: 1,425 Skin: Invision Pro From: Alberta, Canada R.S. Name: Peacemanfunk R.S. Status: Retired R.S. Clan: Retired |
Yeah, there gets to a point where more RAM is just unnecessary. 2GB is what I'd consider for a budget desktop; 4GB is a normal amount that will work for most people; and 6-8GB is helpful for people that regularly do intensive video editing/gaming/similiar and have a lot of cash Your friend would be better off getting a laptop with maybe 4-8GB of RAM and using the money saved to get a better processor/graphics card. That would give better gaming performance than buying more RAM Lol but I heard the newest edition of Norton would need 2-4GB's of RAM xD Sorry I had to. Uhhh if Norton needed 2-4GB of RAM then more than 90% of the computers being sold would not be able to run it, as far as I know Norton 2009 only takes about 7mb of RAM, suppose to be less RAM not more. This post has been edited by Peacemanfunk: Jun 7 2009, 03:57 PM |
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Jun 8 2009, 10:14 AM
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Ogre Shaman ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: March 7, 2006 Member No.: 8,403 Posts: 3,503 Skin: Inspire From: University R.S. Name: Bobsama R.S. Status: Retired |
There's very little reason for 16GB on a gaming machine. 4-8GB is more than enough. Plus he'll go broke putting four 4GB sticks into a system--last I checked the price for one stick is $150-200.
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Jun 8 2009, 05:45 PM
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Dagannoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: March 10, 2007 Member No.: 34,247 Posts: 2,424 Skin: IPB Green From: Inside your computer case R.S. Name: .:. R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: .:. |
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself.
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Jun 8 2009, 09:02 PM
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Albatross ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 1, 2007 Member No.: 53,157 Posts: 830 Skin: RuneScape Black R.S. Name: trecko60 R.S. Status: Retired R.S. Clan: White Flames Clan |
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Jun 8 2009, 09:45 PM
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Odd Old Man ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 14, 2006 Member No.: 27,897 Posts: 12,921 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Your...Dallas...STAAAAAAA AAAAARSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! R.S. Name: redmonke255 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Hannah Montana fan club!!1 |
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Jun 8 2009, 09:50 PM
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Turoth ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: August 9, 2007 Member No.: 45,971 Posts: 1,884 Skin: IPB 2.2.0 Default My Highscores: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Name: Monkeyfun14 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Monkeyfun14 |
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself. explain to me what anyone would do with 1.5TB of RAM Supercomputers use that much ram in really intense calculations you can never have enough QUOTE 64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself. Really depends on the address space of the OS you could make a OS support petabytes of RAM if you wanted. This post has been edited by Emo_Nemo: Jun 8 2009, 09:51 PM |
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Jun 8 2009, 09:53 PM
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Tetrahydrocannibal ![]() Group: Forum Moderator Joined: September 24, 2006 Member No.: 22,116 Posts: 7,991 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Carolopolis My Highscores: Lilshu1990 R.S. Name: lilshu1990 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Steve's Biker Gang WU-TANG |
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself. I don't think that's correct... I know Ubuntu 64bit only allows you to have 64gb of RAM, and Win7 only allows 192gb. I know nothing of tech stuff, but iirc, in a 32 bit system, you have a maximum of 2^32 bytes of ram, or 4GB. Would the theoretical limit for a 64 bit system be 2^64 bytes of ram? (Something like... 15 million terabytes of ram lol) There's a limit most processors use though, for max ram amount, isn't there? Not to mention motherboard size, hehe. But then again, couldn't you link up a bunch of 4x4GB mobos to allow multiple processors and ram on a single machine? Or is that not possible. I'm here to learn! Please teach me! This post has been edited by lilshu: Jun 8 2009, 09:58 PM |
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Jun 8 2009, 10:03 PM
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Odd Old Man ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: December 14, 2006 Member No.: 27,897 Posts: 12,921 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Your...Dallas...STAAAAAAA AAAAARSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! R.S. Name: redmonke255 R.S. Status: Member R.S. Clan: Hannah Montana fan club!!1 |
64 bit systems can support up to 1.5TB of RAM. i got 12GB of DDR3 myself. I don't think that's correct... I know Ubuntu 64bit only allows you to have 64gb of RAM, and Win7 only allows 192gb. I know nothing of tech stuff, but iirc, in a 32 bit system, you have a maximum of 2^32 bytes of ram, or 4GB. Would the theoretical limit for a 64 bit system be 2^64 bytes of ram? (Something like... 15 million terabytes of ram lol) There's a limit most processors use though, for max ram amount, isn't there? Not to mention motherboard size, hehe. But then again, couldn't you link up a bunch of 4x4GB mobos to allow multiple processors and ram on a single machine? Or is that not possible. I'm here to learn! Please teach me! It can handle that much in theory, but (something like this) the kernel is what determines the maximum amount. |
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