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Nov 2 2009, 11:59 PM
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Unicorn ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: October 26, 2008 Member No.: 70,946 Posts: 440 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way. R.S. Name: Qnpz R.S. Status: Retired |
You're just using it wrong. Magic, quite simply, is not to be used like Range and Melee is. Range and Melee can only hit one target at a time, while magic (using Ancients) can hit multiple targets at once.
To show similarity, i'll use a metaphor. Magic is like a real-life nuclear bomb. You wouldn't use a nuke like you would use an Ak-47, now would you? No, nukes are used to hit many things at once, and obliterate them all, while an Ak-47 is made to take out individuals. And this is where most people die while using magic. They try to use Magic exactly like they're used to using Range and Melee, when, in reality, this isn't the best way to go. You use your advantage, hitting multiple people at once. If you consistently attack a crowd of people, you're likely to kill them quickly, especially when using the Ice spells. Another thing I've seen used rarely is full Ahrim's and shadow spells. When you do this, you're likely to lower the enemy's Attack and Strength levels to nothing, rendering them incapable. Once you've lowered their stats, you can use smoke and ice spells to poison them, and stop them dead in their tracks. There is still the dragonhide problem, where a meleer throws on black d'hide, and is invincible to magic. I think a nice -50 to all melee attack stats would solve this problem, no? The only other thing I can think of is the cost of using magic. I have no solutions to this, if anyone can help, please do so. tl;dr: Magic is like a nuke. You use a nuke to kill lots of people. Not just one person. And magic takes more skill than range or melee. Mods: If this is in the wrong section, please feel free to move it. |
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Nov 5 2009, 02:33 PM
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Unicorn ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: October 26, 2008 Member No.: 70,946 Posts: 440 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way. R.S. Name: Qnpz R.S. Status: Retired |
I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on both sides here, guys.
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Nov 5 2009, 02:38 PM
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Witchwood Icon ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: January 13, 2006 Member No.: 5,087 Posts: 5,394 Skin: Darkness From: Portugal R.S. Name: Micael Fatia R.S. Status: Freeplay R.S. Clan: Legacy |
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Nov 5 2009, 09:42 PM
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Unicorn ![]() Group: Forum Member Joined: October 26, 2008 Member No.: 70,946 Posts: 440 Skin: RuneScape Black From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way. R.S. Name: Qnpz R.S. Status: Retired |
I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on both sides here, guys. There's not really two sides, it's pretty much just me against the world lol. But so far I think it's been a nice debate. I agree. Looking over it, it's everyone against you. Although, I do agree with you, I just can't debate too much. |
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Alyce Magic Isn't Underpowered Nov 2 2009, 11:59 PM
error404 Thats only one reason, I will give reasons why mag... Nov 3 2009, 02:27 AM
Lol QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 02:27 AM) Y... Nov 3 2009, 04:22 PM

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Alyce QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:27 PM) T... Nov 3 2009, 10:30 PM
Pinkytm QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 03:27 PM) T... Nov 4 2009, 07:59 AM
Mohorak QUOTE (Pinkytm @ Nov 4 2009, 07:59 AM) QU... Nov 4 2009, 09:33 AM
error404 QUOTE (Mohorak @ Nov 4 2009, 02:33 PM) QU... Nov 4 2009, 12:26 PM
tdam94 Ye magic is crap its only good as a support skill ... Nov 3 2009, 02:31 AM
Kemosabe Magic is still underpowered. So you expect that be... Nov 3 2009, 02:49 AM
Micael Fatia People that say Magic is underpowered clearly have... Nov 3 2009, 03:36 PM
Mario QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 09:36 P... Nov 3 2009, 03:59 PM
Predator QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 12:36 A... Nov 3 2009, 04:03 PM
Micael Fatia QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 09:03 PM) H... Nov 3 2009, 04:07 PM

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Micael Fatia QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 09:17 PM) M... Nov 3 2009, 04:31 PM
Fake QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 04:03 PM) Q... Nov 4 2009, 12:13 AM
killure_self I agree that magic is underpowered, but in conjunc... Nov 3 2009, 04:06 AM
Lunar Tell me.. Are you really gonna be fighting 9 oppon... Nov 3 2009, 05:22 AM
Mini QUOTE (Lunar @ Nov 3 2009, 11:22 AM) Tell... Nov 3 2009, 05:28 AM
Alyce All above argument are indeed valid. Mages do have... Nov 3 2009, 09:56 AM
Uther So besides the fact that you have no special bonus... Nov 3 2009, 10:53 AM
error404 Stack bonusing is much slower than normal spell ca... Nov 3 2009, 12:37 PM
GmanGomez QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:37 PM) S... Nov 5 2009, 08:54 AM
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Uther QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 12:03 P... Nov 5 2009, 10:42 AM
Mario QUOTE (GmanGomez @ Nov 5 2009, 02:54 PM) ... Nov 5 2009, 11:46 AM
Mario Firemaking and Construction are also severely unde... Nov 3 2009, 01:28 PM
error404 Mario, what are you trying to say? Nov 3 2009, 02:59 PM
Mario People take for granted that Magic should be a ski... Nov 3 2009, 03:13 PM
Alyce Thank you, Micael and Mario. I agree wholeheartedl... Nov 3 2009, 04:10 PM
Micael Fatia Seems like you edited your post.
QUOTE Hey warrio... Nov 3 2009, 04:24 PM
Predator QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 01:24 A... Nov 3 2009, 04:32 PM
Micael Fatia Yes it's easier to K0 with Melee/Ranged than w... Nov 3 2009, 04:35 PM
Micael Fatia Please forgive me but I'll have to quote some ... Nov 3 2009, 05:01 PM
Alyce QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 05:01 P... Nov 3 2009, 05:09 PM
error404 Still no one has commented on my argument yet, I w... Nov 3 2009, 04:21 PM
Lunar QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 04:07 P... Nov 3 2009, 04:24 PM
error404 With this talk about "skilled" mages, ha... Nov 3 2009, 04:37 PM
Micael Fatia QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:37 PM) W... Nov 3 2009, 04:42 PM
Mohorak I'm with Mike Fat. Clans don't work in non... Nov 3 2009, 05:04 PM
Uther It is indeed true that Magic wasn't made only ... Nov 3 2009, 07:11 PM
Falzar Chances are, if you cast Barrage, and you don... Nov 3 2009, 07:54 PM
Destroy V1 QUOTE I think a nice -50 to all melee attack stats... Nov 3 2009, 11:51 PM
Alyce QUOTE (Destroy V1 @ Nov 3 2009, 11:51 PM)... Nov 4 2009, 12:00 AM
punk_mag3 UNDERPOWERD !? HA!? barrage 30s? for hybri... Nov 4 2009, 06:11 AM
Hotbabe69 QUOTE (punk_mag3 @ Nov 4 2009, 06:11 AM) ... Nov 4 2009, 02:25 PM
Axindarkfire But that is a hybrid, not a pure. Nov 4 2009, 06:56 AM
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Destroy V1 QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 12:12 P... Nov 4 2009, 06:25 PM
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