IPB

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Magic Isn't Underpowered
Alyce
post Nov 2 2009, 11:59 PM
Post #1


Unicorn
Group Icon

Group: Forum Member
Joined: October 26, 2008
Member No.: 70,946
Posts: 440
Skin: RuneScape Black
From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way.
R.S. Name: Qnpz
R.S. Status: Retired



You're just using it wrong. Magic, quite simply, is not to be used like Range and Melee is. Range and Melee can only hit one target at a time, while magic (using Ancients) can hit multiple targets at once.

To show similarity, i'll use a metaphor. Magic is like a real-life nuclear bomb. You wouldn't use a nuke like you would use an Ak-47, now would you? No, nukes are used to hit many things at once, and obliterate them all, while an Ak-47 is made to take out individuals.

And this is where most people die while using magic. They try to use Magic exactly like they're used to using Range and Melee, when, in reality, this isn't the best way to go. You use your advantage, hitting multiple people at once. If you consistently attack a crowd of people, you're likely to kill them quickly, especially when using the Ice spells.

Another thing I've seen used rarely is full Ahrim's and shadow spells. When you do this, you're likely to lower the enemy's Attack and Strength levels to nothing, rendering them incapable. Once you've lowered their stats, you can use smoke and ice spells to poison them, and stop them dead in their tracks.

There is still the dragonhide problem, where a meleer throws on black d'hide, and is invincible to magic. I think a nice -50 to all melee attack stats would solve this problem, no? The only other thing I can think of is the cost of using magic. I have no solutions to this, if anyone can help, please do so.

tl;dr: Magic is like a nuke. You use a nuke to kill lots of people. Not just one person. And magic takes more skill than range or melee.

Mods: If this is in the wrong section, please feel free to move it.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
 
Start new topic
Replies
Alyce
post Nov 5 2009, 02:33 PM
Post #2


Unicorn
Group Icon

Group: Forum Member
Joined: October 26, 2008
Member No.: 70,946
Posts: 440
Skin: RuneScape Black
From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way.
R.S. Name: Qnpz
R.S. Status: Retired



I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on both sides here, guys.
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Micael Fatia
post Nov 5 2009, 02:38 PM
Post #3


Witchwood Icon
Group Icon

Group: Forum Member
Joined: January 13, 2006
Member No.: 5,087
Posts: 5,394
Skin: Darkness
From: Portugal
R.S. Name: Micael Fatia
R.S. Status: Freeplay
R.S. Clan: Legacy



QUOTE (Alyce @ Nov 5 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on both sides here, guys.

There's not really two sides, it's pretty much just me against the world lol. But so far I think it's been a nice debate. tongue.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Alyce
post Nov 5 2009, 09:42 PM
Post #4


Unicorn
Group Icon

Group: Forum Member
Joined: October 26, 2008
Member No.: 70,946
Posts: 440
Skin: RuneScape Black
From: Georgia, USA, Earth, Milky way.
R.S. Name: Qnpz
R.S. Status: Retired



QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 02:38 PM) *
QUOTE (Alyce @ Nov 5 2009, 07:33 PM) *
I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on both sides here, guys.

There's not really two sides, it's pretty much just me against the world lol. But so far I think it's been a nice debate. tongue.gif



I agree. Looking over it, it's everyone against you. Although, I do agree with you, I just can't debate too much. tongue.gif
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
- Alyce   Magic Isn't Underpowered   Nov 2 2009, 11:59 PM
- - error404   Thats only one reason, I will give reasons why mag...   Nov 3 2009, 02:27 AM
|- - Lol   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 02:27 AM) Y...   Nov 3 2009, 04:22 PM
||- - error404   QUOTE (Lol @ Nov 3 2009, 09:22 PM) QUOTE ...   Nov 3 2009, 04:23 PM
||- - Mohorak   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 04:23 PM) Q...   Nov 3 2009, 04:42 PM
||- - error404   QUOTE (Mohorak @ Nov 3 2009, 09:42 PM) QU...   Nov 4 2009, 03:12 AM
|- - Klaus   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:27 PM) T...   Nov 3 2009, 07:50 PM
||- - Alyce   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 2 2009, 11:27 PM) T...   Nov 3 2009, 10:30 PM
|- - Pinkytm   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 03:27 PM) T...   Nov 4 2009, 07:59 AM
|- - Mohorak   QUOTE (Pinkytm @ Nov 4 2009, 07:59 AM) QU...   Nov 4 2009, 09:33 AM
|- - error404   QUOTE (Mohorak @ Nov 4 2009, 02:33 PM) QU...   Nov 4 2009, 12:26 PM
- - tdam94   Ye magic is crap its only good as a support skill ...   Nov 3 2009, 02:31 AM
- - Kemosabe   Magic is still underpowered. So you expect that be...   Nov 3 2009, 02:49 AM
|- - Micael Fatia   People that say Magic is underpowered clearly have...   Nov 3 2009, 03:36 PM
|- - Mario   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 09:36 P...   Nov 3 2009, 03:59 PM
|- - Predator   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 12:36 A...   Nov 3 2009, 04:03 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 09:03 PM) H...   Nov 3 2009, 04:07 PM
||- - Predator   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 01:07 A...   Nov 3 2009, 04:17 PM
||- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 09:17 PM) M...   Nov 3 2009, 04:31 PM
|- - Fake   QUOTE (Predator @ Nov 3 2009, 04:03 PM) Q...   Nov 4 2009, 12:13 AM
- - killure_self   I agree that magic is underpowered, but in conjunc...   Nov 3 2009, 04:06 AM
- - Lunar   Tell me.. Are you really gonna be fighting 9 oppon...   Nov 3 2009, 05:22 AM
|- - Mini   QUOTE (Lunar @ Nov 3 2009, 11:22 AM) Tell...   Nov 3 2009, 05:28 AM
- - Alyce   All above argument are indeed valid. Mages do have...   Nov 3 2009, 09:56 AM
- - Uther   So besides the fact that you have no special bonus...   Nov 3 2009, 10:53 AM
- - error404   Stack bonusing is much slower than normal spell ca...   Nov 3 2009, 12:37 PM
|- - GmanGomez   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 01:37 PM) S...   Nov 5 2009, 08:54 AM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (GmanGomez @ Nov 5 2009, 01:54 PM) ...   Nov 5 2009, 09:03 AM
||- - Uther   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 12:03 P...   Nov 5 2009, 10:42 AM
|- - Mario   QUOTE (GmanGomez @ Nov 5 2009, 02:54 PM) ...   Nov 5 2009, 11:46 AM
- - Mario   Firemaking and Construction are also severely unde...   Nov 3 2009, 01:28 PM
- - error404   Mario, what are you trying to say?   Nov 3 2009, 02:59 PM
- - Mario   People take for granted that Magic should be a ski...   Nov 3 2009, 03:13 PM
- - Alyce   Thank you, Micael and Mario. I agree wholeheartedl...   Nov 3 2009, 04:10 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   Seems like you edited your post. QUOTE Hey warrio...   Nov 3 2009, 04:24 PM
|- - Predator   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 01:24 A...   Nov 3 2009, 04:32 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   Yes it's easier to K0 with Melee/Ranged than w...   Nov 3 2009, 04:35 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   Please forgive me but I'll have to quote some ...   Nov 3 2009, 05:01 PM
|- - Alyce   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 05:01 P...   Nov 3 2009, 05:09 PM
- - error404   Still no one has commented on my argument yet, I w...   Nov 3 2009, 04:21 PM
- - Lunar   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 3 2009, 04:07 P...   Nov 3 2009, 04:24 PM
- - error404   With this talk about "skilled" mages, ha...   Nov 3 2009, 04:37 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:37 PM) W...   Nov 3 2009, 04:42 PM
- - Mohorak   I'm with Mike Fat. Clans don't work in non...   Nov 3 2009, 05:04 PM
- - Uther   It is indeed true that Magic wasn't made only ...   Nov 3 2009, 07:11 PM
- - Falzar   Chances are, if you cast Barrage, and you don...   Nov 3 2009, 07:54 PM
- - Destroy V1   QUOTE I think a nice -50 to all melee attack stats...   Nov 3 2009, 11:51 PM
|- - Alyce   QUOTE (Destroy V1 @ Nov 3 2009, 11:51 PM)...   Nov 4 2009, 12:00 AM
- - punk_mag3   UNDERPOWERD !? HA!? barrage 30s? for hybri...   Nov 4 2009, 06:11 AM
|- - Hotbabe69   QUOTE (punk_mag3 @ Nov 4 2009, 06:11 AM) ...   Nov 4 2009, 02:25 PM
- - Axindarkfire   But that is a hybrid, not a pure.   Nov 4 2009, 06:56 AM
|- - Mario   QUOTE (Axindarkfire @ Nov 4 2009, 12:56 P...   Nov 4 2009, 01:15 PM
|- - error404   QUOTE (Mario @ Nov 4 2009, 06:15 PM) QUOT...   Nov 4 2009, 01:36 PM
|- - Mario   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 4 2009, 07:36 PM) Q...   Nov 4 2009, 01:49 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (Uther @ Nov 4 2009, 12:11 AM) But ...   Nov 4 2009, 02:12 PM
||- - Destroy V1   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 12:12 P...   Nov 4 2009, 06:25 PM
|- - error404   QUOTE (Mario @ Nov 4 2009, 06:49 PM) QUOT...   Nov 4 2009, 02:19 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 4 2009, 07:19 PM) Q...   Nov 4 2009, 02:34 PM
|- - Mario   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 4 2009, 08:19 PM) Q...   Nov 4 2009, 02:46 PM
- - The Who?   Multy combat is a small percentage of PvP. To say ...   Nov 4 2009, 06:24 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (The Who? @ Nov 4 2009, 11:24 PM) M...   Nov 4 2009, 07:24 PM
|- - The Who?   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 4 2009, 07:24 P...   Nov 4 2009, 08:03 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (The Who? @ Nov 5 2009, 01:03 AM) Q...   Nov 4 2009, 09:09 PM
|- - error404   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 02:09 A...   Nov 5 2009, 03:03 AM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (Mohorak @ Nov 5 2009, 03:57 AM) Ja...   Nov 5 2009, 07:31 AM
|- - error404   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 12:31 P...   Nov 5 2009, 12:53 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (error404 @ Nov 5 2009, 05:53 PM) A...   Nov 5 2009, 02:29 PM
- - Mohorak   Jagex said that Magic is UNDERpowered, not OVERpow...   Nov 4 2009, 10:57 PM
- - Tabmoc   Magic on its own is really bad to be honest. But w...   Nov 5 2009, 01:47 AM
- - Alyce   I've been busy, sorry. Very good points on bot...   Nov 5 2009, 02:33 PM
|- - Micael Fatia   QUOTE (Alyce @ Nov 5 2009, 07:33 PM) I...   Nov 5 2009, 02:38 PM
|- - Alyce   QUOTE (Micael Fatia @ Nov 5 2009, 02:38 P...   Nov 5 2009, 09:42 PM
- - Halanura   I have no idea about members magic. But since I pl...   Nov 5 2009, 04:45 PM




[ Report an Advertisement ]
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd November 2009 - 03:31 AM