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It's time to update the processor in my computer and I was thinking about this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115014

My uncle works for Intel, and he says he can get it for 100 dollars or less from an employee discount.

Is that a good deal for that processor, I can also provide specs if important because I'm sure it's compatible.
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QUOTE(Definition @ Aug 28 2007, 09:03 PM) *
It's time to update the processor in my computer and I was thinking about this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115014

My uncle works for Intel, and he says he can get it for 100 dollars or less from an employee discount.

Is that a good deal for that processor, I can also provide specs if important because I'm sure it's compatible.


id get a intel core 2 duo extreme once my stupid AMD CPU dies out or motherboard failure or old age like 2 years. its okay but 2GHz is a bit slow u know AMD 4200+ is 2.2Ghz. and 100 u can get a good AMD 5000 + i think i m not sure i haven't looked over recent prices. ur uncle works for intel? cool i just went to a intel sponsored gaming tournament!
i could get that cpu for free u know,
Definition
This is for normal computing.
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QUOTE(Definition @ Aug 29 2007, 09:44 AM) *
This is for normal computing.


then it would be okay. say like u have mozzila, itunes and word and powerpoint open along with like a couple of games and stuff u could get CPU lag. its only 125 on newegg. uncle at intel to only get 25$ discount lol i have friends inside of intel too u know. well the CPU should be okay then. dual core!
Bub
What type of motherboard (or computer) are you going to put this in?
Bob-sama
*sigh* a 2.2GHz Athlon X2 will be slower then a 2GHz Core 2 Duo chip. Anyways--If you have a compatible motherboard (some D945 boards, later 975X boards, all P or G 965 boards, all G31-G33-G35, P31-P35, and X38, or most nForce 570, 590, all 650, or 680), I'd say go for it. $100 for an E4400 is pretty good--though if you're upgrading I'd probably go for something a little bit faster (E4500).
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QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 02:28 PM) *
*sigh* a 2.2GHz Athlon X2 will be slower then a 2GHz Core 2 Duo chip. Anyways--If you have a compatible motherboard (some D945 boards, later 975X boards, all P or G 965 boards, all G31-G33-G35, P31-P35, and X38, or most nForce 570, 590, all 650, or 680), I'd say go for it. $100 for an E4400 is pretty good--though if you're upgrading I'd probably go for something a little bit faster (E4500).


*cough*how can a 2.2Ghz Athlon x2 be slower than a 2Ghz core 2 duo? higher Ghz means faster!
Bob-sama
Too bad your edit doesn't reflect correctness. That's not how it works. I don't feel like explaining it in detail right now--I already put my knowledge out in this thread--much in the same way as you put your lack of knowledge out. Here. Read. Absorb.

EDIT: the Quad-core Q6600 isn't showing its strength--they're using dual-core optimized programs, not ready for quad-core at the time of review (March '07). That's changed in recent months.
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QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 02:41 PM) *
Too bad your edit doesn't reflect correctness. That's not how it works. I don't feel like explaining it in detail right now--I already put my knowledge out in this thread--much in the same way as you put your lack of knowledge out. Here. Read. Absorb.

EDIT: the Quad-core Q6600 isn't showing its strength--they're using dual-core optimized programs, not ready for quad-core at the time of review (March '07). That's changed in recent months.


if u dont use clock speeds then how do u tell 1 CPU is better from another?
Definition
Thanks guys, I know I'm compatible.
Bob-sama
QUOTE(Tecumseh @ Aug 29 2007, 02:53 PM) *
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 02:41 PM) *
Too bad your edit doesn't reflect correctness. That's not how it works. I don't feel like explaining it in detail right now--I already put my knowledge out in this thread--much in the same way as you put your lack of knowledge out. Here. Read. Absorb.

EDIT: the Quad-core Q6600 isn't showing its strength--they're using dual-core optimized programs, not ready for quad-core at the time of review (March '07). That's changed in recent months.


if u dont use clock speeds then how do u tell 1 CPU is better from another?

Sorry to continue this, Definition... but I have to stop this.

Tecumseh... did you even read the benchmark information? Basically, Core-based processors are faster, clock-for-clock, then both Athlon (K8) and Netburst micro-architectures. Therefore, a 2GHz Core processor will be faster then a 2.2GHz K8 processor. The margin is anywhere from about 1% to about 30%. On average, a same-clocked Core processor (against K8) will run about 15% faster. Now, last time I did my math, 1.15*2000=2300 ...

Anyways--it's quite clear that, clock-for-clock, there is a difference between Core (Core 2), K8 (Athlon), and Netburst (Pentium).

The time to tell how fast a computer was based on hertz is long gone. Last time that was really possible was during the PIII days--even then, it was clear that Pentium IIIs were faster, clock-for-clock, then the newer Pentium 4s.
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QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 04:07 PM) *
QUOTE(Tecumseh @ Aug 29 2007, 02:53 PM) *
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 02:41 PM) *
Too bad your edit doesn't reflect correctness. That's not how it works. I don't feel like explaining it in detail right now--I already put my knowledge out in this thread--much in the same way as you put your lack of knowledge out. Here. Read. Absorb.

EDIT: the Quad-core Q6600 isn't showing its strength--they're using dual-core optimized programs, not ready for quad-core at the time of review (March '07). That's changed in recent months.


if u dont use clock speeds then how do u tell 1 CPU is better from another?

Sorry to continue this, Definition... but I have to stop this.

Tecumseh... did you even read the benchmark information? Basically, Core-based processors are faster, clock-for-clock, then both Athlon (K8) and Netburst micro-architectures. Therefore, a 2GHz Core processor will be faster then a 2.2GHz K8 processor. The margin is anywhere from about 1% to about 30%. On average, a same-clocked Core processor (against K8) will run about 15% faster. Now, last time I did my math, 1.15*2000=2300 ...

Anyways--it's quite clear that, clock-for-clock, there is a difference between Core (Core 2), K8 (Athlon), and Netburst (Pentium).

The time to tell how fast a computer was based on hertz is long gone. Last time that was really possible was during the PIII days--even then, it was clear that Pentium IIIs were faster, clock-for-clock, then the newer Pentium 4s.


so now u just say intel is faster? cause its core based? what system do u use?
Bob-sama
It's faster because of its microarchitecture--there are many differences between Core and K8, while Netburst was an offshoot. Core is closer related to an evolved PIII then P4. I can say Intel is faster because their processors constantly and consistently are faster then AMD processors. To the average consumer running the internet, instant messaging, listening to music, and doing some word processing... it's nearly impossible to tell a difference without looking for one. For something who uses anything that's processor-intense (games, 2D and 3D graphical design, audio and video encoding, &c.), the difference is much more pronounced. Trust me--when you're waiting for your computer to work away, even a 10% difference is great.

I have two computers that I generally use. One is an AMD K6 550MHz based on the Chomper Extended (CXT) core for Super Socket 7, 256MB of RAM, 8MB ATI Rage 3D Pro graphics card on PCI, and a 40GB Maxtor IDE hard drive. The other is an Intel Celeron 2000MHz based on the Northwood core for Intel's PGA478 (D845PESV motherboard, DIMM1 is damaged), 512MB of DDR400 RAM, 128MB nVidia GeForce FX5200 on AGP4x, an 80GB Western Digital IDE hard drive and an 8.4GB Maxtor IDE hard drive.

Both of them are outdated by modern-day standards, but I've not upgraded because (1) I'm not independently wealthy, (2) nobody I am related to is independently wealthy, (3) it's very hard to get a job where I am (next to a lower-class city), and (4) it does basically everything I need it to do. When I get a new computer (within the next year), it definitely will have a quad-core processor. If AMD's K10 processors are fast, competitively priced, and can overclock, I'll look at getting one. If not, it's going to be Kentsfield or (more likely) Yorkfield processor. When the time comes, I'll make my final decision, put together the order list on NewEgg, and order all the parts.
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QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Aug 29 2007, 05:06 PM) *
It's faster because of its microarchitecture--there are many differences between Core and K8, while Netburst was an offshoot. Core is closer related to an evolved PIII then P4. I can say Intel is faster because their processors constantly and consistently are faster then AMD processors. To the average consumer running the internet, instant messaging, listening to music, and doing some word processing... it's nearly impossible to tell a difference without looking for one. For something who uses anything that's processor-intense (games, 2D and 3D graphical design, audio and video encoding, &c.), the difference is much more pronounced. Trust me--when you're waiting for your computer to work away, even a 10% difference is great.

I have two computers that I generally use. One is an AMD K6 550MHz based on the Chomper Extended (CXT) core for Super Socket 7, 256MB of RAM, 8MB ATI Rage 3D Pro graphics card on PCI, and a 40GB Maxtor IDE hard drive. The other is an Intel Celeron 2000MHz based on the Northwood core for Intel's PGA478 (D845PESV motherboard, DIMM1 is damaged), 512MB of DDR400 RAM, 128MB nVidia GeForce FX5200 on AGP4x, an 80GB Western Digital IDE hard drive and an 8.4GB Maxtor IDE hard drive.

Both of them are outdated by modern-day standards, but I've not upgraded because (1) I'm not independently wealthy, (2) nobody I am related to is independently wealthy, (3) it's very hard to get a job where I am (next to a lower-class city), and (4) it does basically everything I need it to do. When I get a new computer (within the next year), it definitely will have a quad-core processor. If AMD's K10 processors are fast, competitively priced, and can overclock, I'll look at getting one. If not, it's going to be Kentsfield or (more likely) Yorkfield processor. When the time comes, I'll make my final decision, put together the order list on NewEgg, and order all the parts.


i see now.

u should move to my house lol we could like outfit your rig with like the fastest CPU that that wholesale guy can get lol like AMD 6200+ or like intel core 2 duo extreme, we could be brothers! laugh.gif too bad u dont have connections to getting the best parts for free or sumthing cause u could get a pretty good rig with your brains.
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