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Owner
Instead of buying an alienware...Im thinking of building now..BUT I want the absolute best stuff..Alright...Feed me info for all the parts.
Acid
wait for the a board to natively support 1600mhz FSB

Processor - intel QX9770 (not out yet but should be out jan/feb)
Current - QX9650 (1333mhz fsb)

GPU - 8800 GTS (won't be out till mid December's ish? )
Current - nvidia 8800 ultra

Board - P35 chipset or n680i (nforce)
P35 can't support sli, but supports DD3 ram.
(remember nothing currently can natively support 1600mhz FSB)

Memory - Stick in some DD3 performance RAM (OCZ have some good ranges)

Hard drive - Western Digital Raptor (10krpm)

Case - Up to you Temjin TJ09 provides pretty good ventilation and is quite quiet.

Chuck in watercooling.

Maybe a PhysX PCI card.

Blu-ray/HD DVD Drive

30" monitor (dell ultrasharp)

Alternative sound card... Speakers and other peripherals are up to you.

Personally i think its a waste of cash, but its your money.
Dedaw
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif
Owner
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.
Dedaw
So no price range at all!? I'll get it to ya when I get back wink.gif
Acid
Well heres a build since you don't seem to care about cash...

Processor
- Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115034

Motherboard
- ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131219

Graphics Card
-BFG nvidia 8800 Ultra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814143107

Physics Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814143055

Memory (RAM)
-4x 1GB DDR3 OCZ Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227255

Hard Drive
-10krpm Western Digital Raptor (150gig storage)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136035

Power Supply
-OCZ 1000w power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817341006

Case
-Anything from this link, just make sure they support ATX motherboards.
http://www.directron.com/premodded.html
Stobbo
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.
Definition
He was willing to spend 4 000+ dollars on that alienware. So I guess it's fine to suggest the sky.

Monitor

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebO...y=AppleDisplays

I think that you need a DVI port, but you can get an adapter for that.

Speakers

http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_...ion_5/index.jsp

Bose practically the best of the best. It's just amazing.

Other than that go with Acid.
Bob-sama
Ehem... people who aren't sure of what they're talking about--you can go now. Anyways--here's the absolute best that you can get with money (and power draw) being no object. You'll have to do a little bit of hunting for the processor, maybe a little bit for the memory, and a bit for the graphics card--but then again they're brand new for 4Q2007 and will be top-of-the-line for at least a few months. Also note that you'll be required to modify the graphics cards with a different cooling system to be able to run more then three in "CrossFireX3"(versus modifying two so you can run "CrossFireX4" and shatter most benchmarks).

Processor
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 3.0GHz ($999)

Motherboard
MSI X38 Platinum ($250) (NOTE: normally I don't recommend MSI for boards, but this is the only motherboard that I can find that should support CrossFireX4 at a similar level as an AMD 790FX motherboard)

Memory
2 kits x Wintex AMPX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600 SDRAM ($750 each, $1500 total)

Graphics Card
4 x ATI Radeon HD 3870 (RV670XT) 512MB GDDR4 ($270 each, $1080 total)

Power Supply
ePower EP-1000P10-T2 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($365)

Case
Anything you want--though my preference is as follows
XClio Windtunnel Black ($110)

Hard Drives
2 x SUPER TALENT FSD32GC25M for RAID 0 configuration (OS) ($850 each)
4 x Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS for RAID 5 configuration (storage) ($260)

Optical Drives
Internal SATA HD DVD Burner
Internal SATA Blu-Ray Burner

Operating System
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit OEM

Accessories
2 x Kingwin HDP-201 Drive Protectors (to mount the uber-expensive solid-state drives in)
Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound


There's some more to add, but as you see that is a VERY expensive computer. I doubt you can afford that. tongue.gif

Tell me when you want to build something and give me a budget.
Toungy
You'd be much better off spending not too much money in a failed attempt at being 'future proof'. Instead, save money, and upgrade to the latest parts when they come out, if you're so set on the useless goal of having the 'best' PC possible.
Nadson
If I were you, I wouldn't waste all my money on a computer straight away.

If you want power, go with Acid. I wouldn't get a machine that'll cost you all your cash, though. I'd recommend something along the lines of...

- CPU (central processing unit: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 2 x 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB.
- Memory (RAM): 4GB Corsair XMS2 800MHz.
- Motherboard: Asus Striker Extreme, dual DDR2, S-ATA II, 2 x x16 VGA, 2 PCI.
- Hard drive: 500GB SERIAL ATA II Hard drive with 16MB CACHE (7200rpm).
- GPU (graphics processing unit): 768MB GeForce 8800 Ultra, or the 512MB 8800GT, which performs significantly better than the 8800GTS and costs less, or you could use two 8800GT cards.
- Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1.
- Power supply - 800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU or above (remember, wattage isn't everything).
- Processor cooling: Asus Silent Knight II Pure Copper Ultra Cooler.

Yes, the components above are compatible. That's a basic idea of what I'd buy. Honestly, I wouldn't overpower my machine with quad core Extreme processors. The above is enough, and is probably what I'm getting in a week or so.

Oh, and use Windows XP. Windows Vista is unstable, and most games don't like it. If you're worried about DirectX 10 effects (which work only with Vista), there are tweaks you can make that will unlock DirectX effects on one major game already, which is Crysis.
Toungy
QUOTE(Nadson @ Dec 1 2007 at 12:39 AM) *
If I were you, I wouldn't waste all my money on a computer straight away.

If you want power, go with Acid. I would get a machine that'll cost you all your cash, though. I'd recommend something along the lines of...

- CPU (central processing unit: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 2 x 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB.
- Memory (RAM): 4GB Corsair XMS2 800MHz.
- Motherboard: Asus Striker Extreme, dual DDR2, S-ATA II, 2 x x16 VGA, 2 PCI.
- Hard drive: 500GB SERIAL ATA II Hard drive with 16MB CACHE (7200rpm).
- GPU (graphics processing unit): 768MB GeForce 8800 Ultra, or the 512MB 8800GT, which performs significantly better than the 8800GTS and costs less, or you could use two 8800GT cards.
- Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1.
- Power supply - 800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU or above (remember, wattage isn't everything).
- Processor cooling: Asus Silent Knight II Pure Copper Ultra Cooler.

Yes, they're compatible. That's a basic idea of what I'd buy. Honestly, I wouldn't overpower my machine with quad core Extreme processors. The above is enough, and is probably what I'm getting in a week or so.

4 GB RAM is a waste, get two 1GB modules and add another 2 gigs if you need more. There's nothing that'll use more than even 2 GB right now. wink.gif
Bob-sama
Basically what I'm trying to demonstrate. You can spend $1000 on a processor, $2000 on RAM, $1000 on graphics, and $3000 on hard drives... and still have it semi-obsolete in 6 months. Anyways... here's your real best choice for good performance right now combined with good performance in the future. The following system is still high-end, but will be upgradable for the future.

Processor
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600, $280

Motherboard
Abit IX38 Quad GT motherboard, $230

Memory
APIDA 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM (PC2 6400) kit, $105

Graphics Card
2 x ATI Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4, $220-270 each (if you can find them--they will offer higher performance and better overclocking then the 8800GT in SLI but I'm not so sure about the new 8800GTS G92)

Hard Drives
Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD 74GB, $150
Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS, $260

Optical Drives
2 x LITE-ON Black 20X DVD Burner, w/ Lightscribe, SATA, $64 total

Power Supplies
SeaSonic M12 SS-700HM ATX12V / EPS12V 700W, $210

Case
XClio Windtunnel Black, $110

Software
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit OEM, $180
Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007, $125

Cooling
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound, $7
Scythe SCINF-1000 120mm CPU Cooler, $40


That's realistic. About $2100 with a single card or $2400 or so with dual-cards. It'll last you for 2 years with decent performance--and is still inexpensive enough (for you, not me) to upgrade in 3 months when the latest is out. You can overclock the processor to 3.6GHz and still have a completely silent computer. Add to that the ability to upgrade to any new PCI Express graphics card and run CrossFireX (up to 3 cards). It won't break the bank and will have 4GB of RAM and over 1TB of storage space--more then you'll need.

Anyways--if you want, add onto that a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Do what you want--I only care about base machines. Also note that cases are personal preference--I can't tell you what you'd like 100% of the time--so I usually choose conservative, non-"flashy" cases for recommendations. That case has some of the best air cooling.

EDIT:
QUOTE
4 GB RAM is a waste, get two 1GB modules and add another 2 gigs if you need more. There's nothing that'll use more than even 2 GB right now.
If I was building right now, I'd definitely get 2GB at a minimum--or 4GB if I plan to keep it relatively the same. Also note that, in Vista at least, there is a widening performance difference between 2GB and 4GB. I'd prefer more, as 2GB sticks are very inexpensive now. <$30/gigabyte is a nice deal.
Nadson
QUOTE(Toungy @ Dec 1 2007 at 02:41 AM) *
QUOTE(Nadson @ Dec 1 2007 at 12:39 AM) *
If I were you, I wouldn't waste all my money on a computer straight away.

If you want power, go with Acid. I would get a machine that'll cost you all your cash, though. I'd recommend something along the lines of...

- CPU (central processing unit: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850, 2 x 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB.
- Memory (RAM): 4GB Corsair XMS2 800MHz.
- Motherboard: Asus Striker Extreme, dual DDR2, S-ATA II, 2 x x16 VGA, 2 PCI.
- Hard drive: 500GB SERIAL ATA II Hard drive with 16MB CACHE (7200rpm).
- GPU (graphics processing unit): 768MB GeForce 8800 Ultra, or the 512MB 8800GT, which performs significantly better than the 8800GTS and costs less, or you could use two 8800GT cards.
- Sound card: Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1.
- Power supply - 800W Quiet Quad Rail PSU or above (remember, wattage isn't everything).
- Processor cooling: Asus Silent Knight II Pure Copper Ultra Cooler.

Yes, they're compatible. That's a basic idea of what I'd buy. Honestly, I wouldn't overpower my machine with quad core Extreme processors. The above is enough, and is probably what I'm getting in a week or so.

4 GB RAM is a waste, get two 1GB modules and add another 2 gigs if you need more. There's nothing that'll use more than even 2 GB right now. wink.gif


Well, that wouldn't be a problem. Doesn't matter to me, really, but I guess I can get two 1GB sticks and then one more 2GB one. tongue.gif

I haven't studied RAM in detail yet. Will do tomorrow. smile.gif
Owner
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Nov 30 2007 at 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.

Gaming and School Work
<$7000
Toungy
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Dec 1 2007 at 01:13 AM) *
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Nov 30 2007 at 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.

Gaming and School Work
<$7000

Extreme gaming? Like, 30" 16x AA + AF Crysis on full settings? Because there's no money in the world that will buy you that. Currently, you'll spend about 2000 dollars on a really high end system, just without the overpriced crap.
Bob-sama
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 07:13 PM) *
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Nov 30 2007 at 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.

Gaming and School Work
<$7000

I'll get back to you about that tomorrow. I have a promise to keep to my sweetie--so it'll have to wait. Also note that I'll use a max of $4000 or so--so you can rebuild the vitals after a year and have excessive money left over.
Owner
QUOTE(Toungy @ Nov 30 2007 at 07:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Dec 1 2007 at 01:13 AM) *
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Nov 30 2007 at 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.

Gaming and School Work
<$7000

Extreme gaming? Like, 30" 16x AA + AF Crysis on full settings? Because there's no money in the world that will buy you that. Currently, you'll spend about 2000 dollars on a really high end system, just without the overpriced crap.

I'm rolling with a 23" widescreen (gateway). I DO NOT NEED A MONITOR. Yea, Crysis on full settings.
Toungy
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Dec 1 2007 at 04:35 AM) *
QUOTE(Toungy @ Nov 30 2007 at 07:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Dec 1 2007 at 01:13 AM) *
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Nov 30 2007 at 02:46 AM) *
QUOTE(Alien Owner @ Nov 30 2007 at 12:23 AM) *
QUOTE(Dedaw @ Nov 29 2007 at 06:34 PM) *
First of all... Tell me what you want and approximately how much you want to spend. I can hook you up wink.gif

Does not matter really tongue.gif. Just chuck out things. Note: Case must look really cool or I won't buy.

What will this computer be used for?
What is your maximum amount you can spend?

Without this, it is pointless trying to help you.

Gaming and School Work
<$7000

Extreme gaming? Like, 30" 16x AA + AF Crysis on full settings? Because there's no money in the world that will buy you that. Currently, you'll spend about 2000 dollars on a really high end system, just without the overpriced crap.

I'm rolling with a 23" widescreen (gateway). I DO NOT NEED A MONITOR. Yea, Crysis on full settings.

Tough luck, there's not a single set-up that'll get you to max Crysis out, even with 4x AA and 16x AF.
Bob-sama
Look at my previous post, and add to that a Q9450 (overclock it) and two more Radeon HD 3850's in February or March. Also, my choice keyboard is a Logitech G11 and choice mouse is a Logitech G3 (note the first is actually quite a bit better then the more-expensive LCD version G15 and note the second is because I like the style of the mouse so much--I'm used to that particular exterior). Anyways--you can also add 4GB more RAM to really make a smoother game. While Crysis is so "recent", note that basically all graphics cards can't do it on ultra quality smoothly--much less on the unlockable (by hacks) "real" quality. Anyways--you're still best running CrossFireX--and note that drivers supporting 2+ cards won't come out until January or February. You'll have to wait till then to get the excellent multi-card scaling seen by the Radeon 38x0's.
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