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Shpendi
I just wanted to hear from you guys on what you think on this computer I am planning on buying in a couple weeks biggrin.gif (Please say if you reccomend on upgrading something smile.gif):

This PC is going to be for General use also for games biggrin.gif

Here are the Specs:

PROCESSOR - Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 processor (3.00GHz, 1333MHz, 4MB cache)

OPERATING SYSTEM - Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English

MONITOR - Dell™ 22" Black Wide Flat Panel (E228WFP)

MEMORY - 3072MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024+2x512]

HARD DRIVE - 500GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA/100 Hard Drive with 16MB DataBurst™ cache

GRAPHICS CARD - 256MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 XT graphics card

OPTICAL DRIVE - 16x DVD +/- RW Drive

KEYBOARD - Logitech™ Cordless Desktop™ MX®3200 (incl Mouse) - UK/Irish (QWERTY

SOUND SOFTWARE - Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio

SPEAKERS - Dell™ A525 Speakers with Subwoofer UK/Irish

ACCESSORIES - Creative Labs Fatal1ty Gaming Headset

FLOPPY/MEDIA DRIVES - 19-in-1 Media Card reader

I'm a Dell Nub biggrin.gif
Bob-sama
What type of games? Examples? Also that graphics card is underpowered. For $100 more there should be an upgrade to a Radeon HD 3850. Also, what is the price of that RAM upgrade? Finally... do you really want a Dell? They're rather awful machines to do anything specific on. They are fine for non-tech people, but are riddled with problems in the long run.
Shpendi
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:23 PM) *
What type of games? Examples? Also that graphics card is underpowered. For $100 more there should be an upgrade to a Radeon HD 3850. Also, what is the price of that RAM upgrade? Finally... do you really want a Dell? They're rather awful machines to do anything specific on. They are fine for non-tech people, but are riddled with problems in the long run.


Thanks for the Reply Bob smile.gif

I mostly play Vavles Games (CS:, HL2 etc.)

If you do not reccomend Dell, which other company would you reccomend?

Thanks
Stobbo
Personally I would upgrade the Graphics Card to something better and downgrade the RAM to 2GB.

Also, do you really need a new keyboard, mouse and set of speakers? If you reuse your current ones, you could save some money.
Shpendi
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:35 PM) *
Personally I would upgrade the Graphics Card to something better and downgrade the RAM to 2GB.

Also, do you really need a new keyboard, mouse and set of speakers? If you reuse your current ones, you could save some money.


I could reuse my current speakers.

But I definetly need to buy a new Keyboard and Mouse slanty.gif
Stobbo
QUOTE(Voo Doo10 @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:38 PM) *
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:35 PM) *
Personally I would upgrade the Graphics Card to something better and downgrade the RAM to 2GB.

Also, do you really need a new keyboard, mouse and set of speakers? If you reuse your current ones, you could save some money.


I could reuse my current speakers.

But I definetly need to buy a new Keyboard and Mouse slanty.gif


If you need new ones, then buy them, what I was saying was don't buy them for the sake of it.
Bob-sama
QUOTE(Voo Doo10 @ Jan 6 2008 at 12:30 PM) *
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:23 PM) *
What type of games? Examples? Also that graphics card is underpowered. For $100 more there should be an upgrade to a Radeon HD 3850. Also, what is the price of that RAM upgrade? Finally... do you really want a Dell? They're rather awful machines to do anything specific on. They are fine for non-tech people, but are riddled with problems in the long run.


Thanks for the Reply Bob smile.gif

I mostly play Vavles Games (CS:, HL2 etc.)

If you do not reccomend Dell, which other company would you reccomend?

Thanks

Other company? Order parts off of NewEgg or other eTailers and assemble it yourself. A note: warranties aren't sold to help the consumer--they're an additional source of revenue for the company. That being said, in the long run, you're better off not buying warranties. A Radeon HD 3850 or similar card would do many time better than a flimsy Radeon 2400XT. I would also personally drop the RAM to the lowest/least expensive option. You can buy single 2GB modules of DDR2 800 for $40--which comes out to be $20/gigabyte. If you can get a 2x512MB option, you can add in 2-4GB for well under the price they'll charge you for 3GB.
Shpendi
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 06:20 PM) *
QUOTE(Voo Doo10 @ Jan 6 2008 at 12:30 PM) *
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 05:23 PM) *
What type of games? Examples? Also that graphics card is underpowered. For $100 more there should be an upgrade to a Radeon HD 3850. Also, what is the price of that RAM upgrade? Finally... do you really want a Dell? They're rather awful machines to do anything specific on. They are fine for non-tech people, but are riddled with problems in the long run.


Thanks for the Reply Bob smile.gif

I mostly play Vavles Games (CS:, HL2 etc.)

If you do not reccomend Dell, which other company would you reccomend?

Thanks

Other company? Order parts off of NewEgg or other eTailers and assemble it yourself. A note: warranties aren't sold to help the consumer--they're an additional source of revenue for the company. That being said, in the long run, you're better off not buying warranties. A Radeon HD 3850 or similar card would do many time better than a flimsy Radeon 2400XT. I would also personally drop the RAM to the lowest/least expensive option. You can buy single 2GB modules of DDR2 800 for $40--which comes out to be $20/gigabyte. If you can get a 2x512MB option, you can add in 2-4GB for well under the price they'll charge you for 3GB.


Hold on, do NewEgg ship to the U.K ('cause that's where I am from)


Thanks for the Suggestion smile.gif
Bob-sama
You're in the UK? Well you can ship them to me and I'll test them, make sure everything's good (laugh.gif), and then ship it off to you. That, or you can use other UK-specific sites. I don't know any of them as I'm in the USA. Anyways--NewEgg only ships to the US and to our military overseas. That means you probably can't buy anything from NewEgg. Anyways--tech mods to recommend etailers with decent prices?
Shpendi
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 06:58 PM) *
You're in the UK? Well you can ship them to me and I'll test them, make sure everything's good (laugh.gif), and then ship it off to you. That, or you can use other UK-specific sites. I don't know any of them as I'm in the USA. Anyways--NewEgg only ships to the US and to our military overseas. That means you probably can't buy anything from NewEgg. Anyways--tech mods to recommend etailers with decent prices?


I could do that biggrin.gif

I have some relatives in Texas, maybe I can ship it to them and they ship to me biggrin.gif

Anyway, If I wanted to build my own PC, how would i buy the Chasis to store all the things? (I'm not familiar with building my own PC, unless it is pre-built pfft.gif)
Bob-sama
QUOTE(Voo Doo10 @ Jan 6 2008 at 02:01 PM) *
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 06:58 PM) *
You're in the UK? Well you can ship them to me and I'll test them, make sure everything's good (laugh.gif), and then ship it off to you. That, or you can use other UK-specific sites. I don't know any of them as I'm in the USA. Anyways--NewEgg only ships to the US and to our military overseas. That means you probably can't buy anything from NewEgg. Anyways--tech mods to recommend etailers with decent prices?


I could do that biggrin.gif

I have some relatives in Texas, maybe I can ship it to them and they ship to me biggrin.gif

Anyway, If I wanted to build my own PC, how would i buy the Chasis to store all the things? (I'm not familiar with building my own PC, unless it is pre-built pfft.gif)

Basically you select parts (keeping compatibility in mind) and then order. If you need any help selecting components or ensuring compatibility, just ask me. It's hard to help people select their cases (or chassis) because that's a personal thing. It's about their sense of style and idea of what the computer should be for. When I build my computer, I knew I wanted something minimalist with excellent air flow and minimal noise. I found what I wanted in my XClio Propeller case. It's really up to you to figure out what you want in a computer and choose a case.
Stobbo
You buy the case, which the motherboard screws into to, and then all the other components screw onto the case or connect to the motherboard.

As for a supplier, Novatech have always been good to me. I have always used them and never had any problems. http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/
Shpendi
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Jan 6 2008 at 07:22 PM) *
You buy the case, which the motherboard screws into to, and then all the other components screw onto the case or connect to the motherboard.

As for a supplier, Novatech have always been good to me. I have always used them and never had any problems. http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/


Ty so Much Stobbo biggrin.gif

Just exactly what I needed smile.gif
Bob-sama
I'll give you a quick run-through of what I'd personally buy from Novatech. It differs greatly from my familiar NewEgg.

Antec Sonata III for £72.85 (with 500W power supply... not a bad PSU but not the best. Still relatively good)
Asus P5K for £68.74, MSI P35 Neo2-FR for £69.33, or Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R for £78.72 (all are relatively good boards)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 for £154.51-£160.92 or Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 £163.56 (I'd personally go with the Q6600 and change the selection once Wolfdale and Yorkfield hit the market in 1Q2008)
Corsair XMS6400 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800 for £77.55 (Severely limited selection here)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 with 256MB GDDR3 for £106.87, Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 with 512MB GDDR4 for £157.45, or EVGA GeForce 8800GT with 512MB GDDR3 for £169.20
Zalman CNPS9500-AT Socket 775 for £30.49 (that's saying you want to overclock beyond ~3GHz--which is very, very easy)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB (WD5000AAKS, I presume) for £62.86
"Samsung Lightscribe Sata 20x DVD+/-R/RW/RAM OEM Black - With Nero" for £20.19
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit OEM for £69.33 (if you like Vista that is--I prefer it greatly)

For £663.39 - £744.75 (plus probably £20 shipping), you can have this fabulous new computer!! tongue.gif
($978.63 - $1,098.65 USD plus probably $40 shipping)

Don't forget to add in a new keyboard, mouse, and possibly monitor and speakers.
Shpendi
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 07:50 PM) *
I'll give you a quick run-through of what I'd personally buy from Novatech. It differs greatly from my familiar NewEgg.

Antec Sonata III for £72.85 (with 500W power supply... not a bad PSU but not the best. Still relatively good)
Asus P5K for £68.74, MSI P35 Neo2-FR for £69.33, or Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R for £78.72 (all are relatively good boards)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 for £154.51-£160.92 or Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 £163.56 (I'd personally go with the Q6600 and change the selection once Wolfdale and Yorkfield hit the market in 1Q2008)
Corsair XMS6400 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800 for £77.55 (Severely limited selection here)
Sapphire Radeon HD 3850 with 256MB GDDR3 for £106.87, Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 with 512MB GDDR4 for £157.45, or EVGA GeForce 8800GT with 512MB GDDR3 for £169.20
Zalman CNPS9500-AT Socket 775 for £30.49 (that's saying you want to overclock beyond ~3GHz--which is very, very easy)
Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB (WD5000AAKS, I presume) for £62.86
"Samsung Lightscribe Sata 20x DVD+/-R/RW/RAM OEM Black - With Nero" for £20.19
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit OEM for £69.33 (if you like Vista that is--I prefer it greatly)

For £832.59 - £744.75


Wow, I really appreciate you writing that all out biggrin.gif

That's a good price. I think I might take your selection smile.gif
Bob-sama
It's a hobby. I'm more comfortable on my home NewEgg site, but it's not much different. If you want to overclock, get the additional heatsink (Zalman 9500). If you don't, just get the Q6600. You should be able to hit ~2.8-3GHz on the stock heatsink without much trouble. As it is, the quad-cores are make strides in games. They're actually being utilized, unlike the dual-cores were a few years back. Other than that--what was the price for the Dell? Also note I updated my post--after you quoted it. £663-£745.
Toungy
QUOTE(Bob-sama @ Jan 6 2008 at 08:50 PM) *

Just dropping in something; I'd personally prefer an E6750. The difference is extremely small, and they have equal overclocking capabilities. Plus, the E6750 is, where I come from, a lot cheaper.

If you're going for quad core, wait for the new Yorkfields, they're bound to be a lot better and equally cheap. Plus the release date is pretty soon already, probably somewhere in february.
Shpendi
It was £812 laugh.gif

Thanks very much.

Final question, do you know where I can find some guides on how to install everything together?

Thanks
Stobbo
The postage/shipping will be £4.99 or £5.99 depending on the weight of it all.

Kaze wrote this, it might be some help: http://runescape.salmoneus.net/forums/inde...&article=34
Shpendi
QUOTE(Stobbo @ Jan 6 2008 at 08:11 PM) *
The postage/shipping will be £4.99 or £5.99 depending on the weight of it all.

Kaze wrote this, it might be some help: http://runescape.salmoneus.net/forums/inde...&article=34


Thanks Stobbo.

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