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Lemos
My budget is around $1000.
Any ideas on Motherboards, Graphics card, OS, etc?
Thanks smile.gif
I have a few choices, here they are:
Motherboard:EVGA 9800GTX SSC ( A lot of money though)
Graphics card: XFX GeForce 8800 GT (Still a lot of money)

And, any shops or websites where I could get a intresting PC Case from?

Thanks again smile.gif

edit:This Case looks pretty cool, IMO.
Fencefry
try http://www.newegg.com for some good cases.

Random started block: how much HDD and RAM do you want?
Lemos
Uh, My Comp right now has 512mb of RAM (Need more) So 1 or 2 Gig probably.
And my comp has 111 Gig HDD ( I think laugh.gif )
Probably more than that, so anything higher than that smile.gif
Fencefry
What kind of stuff do you do on your computer? Do you have movies on it, lots of PS artwork, or a large music library?


If your not gaming I think 1 GB (Which I think you are, with that gfx card) is good, but with gaming, probably get 2 GB.

R Anderson
What Operating System do you want to run?

If you want to run XP you only need 1 GB of RAM but if your going to run Vista you should probably get 2 GB of RAM. If your intending to run Linux I can't really tell you as I have no experience with that OS.

I would buy all your computer parts from NewEgg they have great customer service and the prices are pretty good as well.

Again the parts you should get really depend on what your going to be doing with your computer.
Lemos
QUOTE (Fencefry @ Apr 28 2008 at 08:06 PM) *
What kind of stuff do you do on your computer? Do you have movies on it, lots of PS artwork, or a large music library?


If your not gaming I think 1 GB (Which I think you are, with that gfx card) is good, but with gaming, probably get 2 GB.

I game, GIMP it up yay.gif , and have a big music library.




QUOTE (R Anderson @ Apr 28 2008 at 08:10 PM) *
What Operating System do you want to run?

If you want to run XP you only need 1 GB of RAM but if your going to run Vista you should probably get 2 GB of RAM. If your intending to run Linux I can't really tell you as I have no experience with that OS.

I would buy all your computer parts from NewEgg they have great customer service and the prices are pretty good as well.

Again the parts you should get really depend on what your going to be doing with your computer.

I want to run Windows XP Professinal becuase Vista isn't my style.


I am probably either use Newegg or use a local computer store for all of my parts smile.gif
Bob-sama
NewEgg is best for most things--they have large selection and competitive prices.

You can get a LOT of computer for $1,000. I'd suggest against the GeForce 9800GTX--the GeForce 8800GT would be a better choice, if you're gaming. They're the same card, really, thought the 9800GTX is clocked higher and has a larger cooler (not that important, really). I don't mean gaming like Runescape or puzzles or random internet junk. If you want to play games like Crysis or Call of Duty 4, or any number of other demanding computers, the 8800GT would be a good pick. A bit lower-end would be a GeForce 9600GT, or the GeForce 8800GS (also known as the 9600GTO). You can also look at Radeon HD 3000 series cards, such as a HD3870.

For processors--you sort of have two choices. Intel's processors dominate, and so for a price-point such as this, it would be the only real choice. Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad are your choices. The Core 2 Duo have two cores and will run at higher frequencies at the same price points. They're better strictly for today's gaming. Core 2 Quad have four cores and usually run at lower frequencies. They have an advantage for heavy multitasking--not running Firefox and WinAmp and AIM. That's not heavy. I mean more like you're doing heavier work--one of my favorite "heavy" programs is Apophysis. Many programs like that will take upwards of 6 hours on a fast processor (I render at 2000 quality and 2560x2048), so you choose to do two or three or four renders at a time. Core 2 Quad processors will also be better for future gaming--such as in 2-3 years from now when multi-core is better.

For memory--I'd recommend at least 2GB. For that much money, you can get 4GB quite easily, and you can get a pretty-good quality kit. I'd say look at 4GB.

For OS--it's really your choice. I'd suggest at least Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit. Windows XP Pro will stop being sold in mid June.

For motherboard--you have a few choices. I'd say look at P35 or X38--both are available and P35 is more affordable. X38 has its advantages as well, but they really don't show with GeForce cards. There's also nForce i700 motherboards.

For storage--I have never had problems with Western Digital. Ever. They're quite mainstream. Many enthusiasts swear by Seagate. Those two companies are your best bet. I'd say at least a 320GB hard drive, if not a 500GB hard drive. Remember that you'll probably have this computer for 3-5 years, so you'll want storage.

You'll want a quality power supply--since these make or break your system, quite literally. SeaSonic is one of the best companies for power supplies--their S12, M12, and SS lines are all very good. Alternatives include low-end PC Power & Cooling (low-wattage units, but they're still expensive), Corsair (well-known now for their HX series), FoxConn (all pretty good quality stuff), and Thermaltake (Purepower and Toughpower only--forget their TR2 line exists). I have a Thermaltake Purepower unit, but that's more because it was on a good rebate compared to the pricier units. I'm going to guess you'll need 400W-600W.

For cases--there are so many designs. I'm going to recommend, if your budget allows, Lian-Li, Silverstone, and Cooler Master. XClio also has good cases. I'm going to have to recommend against CoolMax, NZXT, and other no-name or no-quality brands.

For cooling--stock should be fine, but an upgrade will get you lower temperatures and, if you want, higher overclocks. The Tuniq 120 is a good budget choice, the Scythe Infinity too (but the push-pins are counter-productive). If you can afford it, look at a Thermalright 120 Extreme and a good fan.

Optical drives are fairly standard--I'd say look for a matching color (to your case), SATA connection, and 20x burner speed. LightScribe is a plus to me as well. $30/drive is realistic.
Lemos
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Apr 28 2008 at 08:41 PM) *
NewEgg is best for most things--they have large selection and competitive prices.

You can get a LOT of computer for $1,000. I'd suggest against the GeForce 9800GTX--the GeForce 8800GT would be a better choice, if you're gaming. They're the same card, really, thought the 9800GTX is clocked higher and has a larger cooler (not that important, really). I don't mean gaming like Runescape or puzzles or random internet junk. If you want to play games like Crysis or Call of Duty 4, or any number of other demanding computers, the 8800GT would be a good pick. A bit lower-end would be a GeForce 9600GT, or the GeForce 8800GS (also known as the 9600GTO). You can also look at Radeon HD 3000 series cards, such as a HD3870.

For processors--you sort of have two choices. Intel's processors dominate, and so for a price-point such as this, it would be the only real choice. Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad are your choices. The Core 2 Duo have two cores and will run at higher frequencies at the same price points. They're better strictly for today's gaming. Core 2 Quad have four cores and usually run at lower frequencies. They have an advantage for heavy multitasking--not running Firefox and WinAmp and AIM. That's not heavy. I mean more like you're doing heavier work--one of my favorite "heavy" programs is Apophysis. Many programs like that will take upwards of 6 hours on a fast processor (I render at 2000 quality and 2560x2048), so you choose to do two or three or four renders at a time. Core 2 Quad processors will also be better for future gaming--such as in 2-3 years from now when multi-core is better.

For memory--I'd recommend at least 2GB. For that much money, you can get 4GB quite easily, and you can get a pretty-good quality kit. I'd say look at 4GB.

For OS--it's really your choice. I'd suggest at least Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit. Windows XP Pro will stop being sold in mid June.

For motherboard--you have a few choices. I'd say look at P35 or X38--both are available and P35 is more affordable. X38 has its advantages as well, but they really don't show with GeForce cards. There's also nForce i700 motherboards.

For storage--I have never had problems with Western Digital. Ever. They're quite mainstream. Many enthusiasts swear by Seagate. Those two companies are your best bet. I'd say at least a 320GB hard drive, if not a 500GB hard drive. Remember that you'll probably have this computer for 3-5 years, so you'll want storage.

You'll want a quality power supply--since these make or break your system, quite literally. SeaSonic is one of the best companies for power supplies--their S12, M12, and SS lines are all very good. Alternatives include low-end PC Power & Cooling (low-wattage units, but they're still expensive), Corsair (well-known now for their HX series), FoxConn (all pretty good quality stuff), and Thermaltake (Purepower and Toughpower only--forget their TR2 line exists). I have a Thermaltake Purepower unit, but that's more because it was on a good rebate compared to the pricier units. I'm going to guess you'll need 400W-600W.

For cases--there are so many designs. I'm going to recommend, if your budget allows, Lian-Li, Silverstone, and Cooler Master. XClio also has good cases. I'm going to have to recommend against CoolMax, NZXT, and other no-name or no-quality brands.

For cooling--stock should be fine, but an upgrade will get you lower temperatures and, if you want, higher overclocks. The Tuniq 120 is a good budget choice, the Scythe Infinity too (but the push-pins are counter-productive). If you can afford it, look at a Thermalright 120 Extreme and a good fan.

Optical drives are fairly standard--I'd say look for a matching color (to your case), SATA connection, and 20x burner speed. LightScribe is a plus to me as well. $30/drive is realistic.

Wow, thanks smile.gif
Ill probably buy most of the components on the weekend or later.

Thanks to you all smile.gif
Acid
Don' buy a Case/PSU combo, they usually come with very low end power supplies,, and remeber thats going to be powering your $1000 system. I would also take a look at the cooler master range since their cases are very nice and sturdy. Take a look at bob-sama's advice and pick up a seasonic M12 modular power supply smile.gif.

Also before you buy you might want to post the comoponents your planning on buying so we can read over it and check there all in order. I'd recommend getting Vista 64bit as well, it runs a lot smoother and allocates RAM quite nicely. 2/4GB is your choice but theres plenty of nice 2x2GB kits out there.

You could always stick an E8400/500 into that buildand it should be fine for photoshop and gaming . Also it runs very cool. If you decide you want to go quad core you might want to have a look at the Q9450.
Lemos
QUOTE (Acid @ Apr 29 2008 at 02:19 AM) *
Don' buy a Case/PSU combo, they usually come with very low end power supplies,, and remeber thats going to be powering your $1000 system. I would also take a look at the cooler master range since their cases are very nice and sturdy. Take a look at bob-sama's advice and pick up a seasonic M12 modular power supply smile.gif.

Also before you buy you might want to post the comoponents your planning on buying so we can read over it and check there all in order. I'd recommend getting Vista 64bit as well, it runs a lot smoother and allocates RAM quite nicely. 2/4GB is your choice but theres plenty of nice 2x2GB kits out there.

You could always stick an E8400/500 into that buildand it should be fine for photoshop and gaming . Also it runs very cool. If you decide you want to go quad core you might want to have a look at the Q9450.

O.k.

I'll look into the parts a bit futher, I just started thinking about it a day or two ago.
So in a week, or two I should have all of the parts.
Bob-sama
I spoke incorrectly last post--I meant a FPS Fortron power supply instead of a Foxconn power supply. I didn't realize my mistake until I reread it now.

QUOTE (Acid @ Apr 29 2008 at 03:19 AM) *
Don' buy a Case/PSU combo, they usually come with very low end power supplies,, and remeber thats going to be powering your $1000 system. I would also take a look at the cooler master range since their cases are very nice and sturdy. Take a look at bob-sama's advice and pick up a seasonic M12 modular power supply smile.gif.

Also before you buy you might want to post the comoponents your planning on buying so we can read over it and check there all in order. I'd recommend getting Vista 64bit as well, it runs a lot smoother and allocates RAM quite nicely. 2/4GB is your choice but theres plenty of nice 2x2GB kits out there.

You could always stick an E8400/500 into that buildand it should be fine for photoshop and gaming . Also it runs very cool. If you decide you want to go quad core you might want to have a look at the Q9450.

Case/PSU combos are bad 95% of the time. Seriously--95% of the time. That one you linked to in post #1 included--especially. I have seen very few acceptable power supplies in combos--most Antec power supplys are decent and FPS Fortron power supplies are also decent. Either way, it's usually best to get a case and power supply separately--so you don't have to RMA a case to get a new power supply and you don't have to RMA a power supply to get a case. They're the same item most of the time--so both must be returned to RMA.

I'm going to lean towards the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450, though the Core 2 Duo E8400 or E8500 processors are good too.

Cooler Master cases are pretty good--but again, Silverstone and Lian-Li are very good. If you want to risk BestBuy, you can find a "RocketFish" case, which is a rebranded Lian-Li--very good and very cheap ($60 v. $200+). If not, don't worry about it--it's only one Lian-Li model that's rebranded. Silverstone's TJxx line is all good quality. Take a look over NewEgg under Silverstone to see what I'm talking about.
Lemos
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Apr 29 2008 at 02:48 PM) *
I spoke incorrectly last post--I meant a FPS Fortron power supply instead of a Foxconn power supply. I didn't realize my mistake until I reread it now.

QUOTE (Acid @ Apr 29 2008 at 03:19 AM) *
Don' buy a Case/PSU combo, they usually come with very low end power supplies,, and remeber thats going to be powering your $1000 system. I would also take a look at the cooler master range since their cases are very nice and sturdy. Take a look at bob-sama's advice and pick up a seasonic M12 modular power supply smile.gif.

Also before you buy you might want to post the comoponents your planning on buying so we can read over it and check there all in order. I'd recommend getting Vista 64bit as well, it runs a lot smoother and allocates RAM quite nicely. 2/4GB is your choice but theres plenty of nice 2x2GB kits out there.

You could always stick an E8400/500 into that buildand it should be fine for photoshop and gaming . Also it runs very cool. If you decide you want to go quad core you might want to have a look at the Q9450.

Case/PSU combos are bad 95% of the time. Seriously--95% of the time. That one you linked to in post #1 included--especially. I have seen very few acceptable power supplies in combos--most Antec power supplys are decent and FPS Fortron power supplies are also decent. Either way, it's usually best to get a case and power supply separately--so you don't have to RMA a case to get a new power supply and you don't have to RMA a power supply to get a case. They're the same item most of the time--so both must be returned to RMA.

I'm going to lean towards the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450, though the Core 2 Duo E8400 or E8500 processors are good too.

Cooler Master cases are pretty good--but again, Silverstone and Lian-Li are very good. If you want to risk BestBuy, you can find a "RocketFish" case, which is a rebranded Lian-Li--very good and very cheap ($60 v. $200+). If not, don't worry about it--it's only one Lian-Li model that's rebranded. Silverstone's TJxx line is all good quality. Take a look over NewEgg under Silverstone to see what I'm talking about.

K, I didnt even read that page closely smile.gif

Bob-sama
Links to my personal preferences...

CPU... Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 or Intel Xeon E3350
Motherboards... Abit IP35 Pro, Foxconn P35A, MSI P35 Neo2-FR, DFI LanParty DK P35-T2RS, or DFI LP LT P35-T2R, DFI LanParty DK X38-T2R, Foxconn X38A, or DFI LP LP X48-T2R
RAM... mushkin 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800
Graphics... GeCube HD3850 512MB GDDR3 or HD3870 512MB GDDR4
Case... Cooler Master CM690
PSU... SeaSonic S12 II SS-430GB or SeaSonic SS-400ES (I selected the SS-400ES for pricing, but the S12 II SS-430GB is very nice as well)
HDD... Western Digital WD5000AAKS
OS... Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit OEM w/o SP1 (the SP1 version is $10 more and it's a free download)
Optical Drive... Lite-On 20x DVD Burner SATA
Others... Arctic Silver ArctiClean and Arctic Cooling MX-2

The total for linked items is $1025, and expect $30 more for shipping, so that's about $55 over-budget, but I'd think well-worth the costs. 500GB hard drive, Q6600, X38 motherboard, 4GB of RAM, and HD3870 512MB graphics card.

Places to cut if you need to? P35 motherboard, HD3850, or dual-core processor. Even though the Q6600 is older, it's still much better price and availability. Hard drive space can also be cut, as well as case. You can get a decent case for $50--but that CM690 is a pretty nice case. I prefer my current XClio Propeller to it, however. I'm quite tempted to call my Propeller what it really is--an XClio 188A PLUS.
Lemos
I could work a bit more to get $50.
So, once again, Thanks tongue.gif
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