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One
This branches off of a suggestion within the SalCast forums.

I think that the SalCast should expand with a live radio show perhaps twice a week to begin with. I'm up for the challenge, but i don't know about others. I'll highlight some benefits for you know
  • More interaction with the forum
  • Constantly updated
  • Live (with recorded sessions?)
  • Branches out with media
This is the sort of suggestion that will be shunned. And i can understand why, however i feel it could work else i wouldn't have suggested it. It would take alot of devotion, for which I'm ready to give (but i have no clue about anyone else.) It would work exactly like a radio station, scripted but not strict script.

( Don't follow a crowd, think for yourself....watch as i get flamed aware.gif )
Topdog
First off, you should suggest this in the Salcast forums. wink.gif

Secondly, I have a similar suggestion here in which the Salcast staff use Skype (etc.) and talk live, but still with a script. The Skype conversation will be recorded and it can be edited out if there are any long pauses of silence, mess-ups, etc.

However, I like the idea of having the Salcast frequently, but remember that the Salcast is just starting up again. Perhaps I would fall into the idea of having it more frequently once I see that the Salcast can be released monthly, instead of bi-monthly, etc.
One
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 15 2008, 03:53 PM) *
First off, you should suggest this in the Salcast forums. wink.gif

Secondly, I have a similar suggestion here in which the Salcast staff use Skype (etc.) and talk live, but still with a script. The Skype conversation will be recorded and it can be edited out if there are any long pauses of silence, mess-ups, etc.

However, I like the idea of having the Salcast frequently, but remember that the Salcast is just starting up again. Perhaps I would fall into the idea of having it more frequently once I see that the Salcast can be released monthly, instead of bi-monthly, etc.


I posted here for more publicity. People don't visit the Cast forums much.

Your suggestion isn't really live, it's recorded. smile.gif Mistakes happen and it doesn't exactly matter. It would just be like having a conversation with someone. Having a SalCast frequently could be done, and will be once the Cast gets back on it's feet. smile.gif
Agent F
Instead of an actual script where you read word for word what's written, just have an outline with the topics you wish to discuss and the points within the topic you want to go over. None of us are real actors so we all lack in the ability to make reading from a script sound real. I'd like it to sound like an actual radio broadcast and less like you're reading a book. I don't intend to be mean to the SalCast members, it just doesn't seem real when you read the script word for word. I guess my suggestion goes into the current SalCast and this new radio idea.
One
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 15 2008, 04:26 PM) *
Instead of an actual script where you read word for word what's written, just have an outline with the topics you wish to discuss and the points within the topic you want to go over. None of us are real actors so we all lack in the ability to make reading from a script sound real. I'd like it to sound like an actual radio broadcast and less like you're reading a book. I don't intend to be mean to the SalCast members, it just doesn't seem real when you read the script word for word. I guess my suggestion goes into the current SalCast and this new radio idea.


smile.gif i'd like it to be more like a radio as well, i feel if we expanded a little we could accomplish this quite easily.
Doddsy
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 15 2008, 04:26 PM) *
Instead of an actual script where you read word for word what's written, just have an outline with the topics you wish to discuss and the points within the topic you want to go over. None of us are real actors so we all lack in the ability to make reading from a script sound real. I'd like it to sound like an actual radio broadcast and less like you're reading a book. I don't intend to be mean to the SalCast members, it just doesn't seem real when you read the script word for word. I guess my suggestion goes into the current SalCast and this new radio idea.

What happened with that idea when we discussed was that the script writers produced much better 'scripts' and the flow casts were all messy.

The writers are much better at producing interesting conversational pieces but either couldn't or didn't want to broadcast thier voice
Agent F
QUOTE (Doddsy @ Jul 16 2008, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 15 2008, 04:26 PM) *
Instead of an actual script where you read word for word what's written, just have an outline with the topics you wish to discuss and the points within the topic you want to go over. None of us are real actors so we all lack in the ability to make reading from a script sound real. I'd like it to sound like an actual radio broadcast and less like you're reading a book. I don't intend to be mean to the SalCast members, it just doesn't seem real when you read the script word for word. I guess my suggestion goes into the current SalCast and this new radio idea.

What happened with that idea when we discussed was that the script writers produced much better 'scripts' and the flow casts were all messy.

The writers are much better at producing interesting conversational pieces but either couldn't or didn't want to broadcast thier voice

You can still have the writers make a detailed outline, which is what my suggestion said. Just have the actors read it before hand and then ad lib the filler words, flow, and tone. The podcast also isn't a live performance, so there should be multiple takes until it sounds right and flows well. Just like on television, a director should get takes of small portions of the performance. Then discuss with the layout personnel to get the good takes of each section and put it together to make the final piece.

The director has to oversee the whole operation, but he can split it into smaller managers, or he can manage the whole process. You have writers of the episode who meet together and brainstorm ideas of what the episode should be about. They outline the ideas with the director and get an approval. Then they move onto actually doing the screenplay of the episode. The screenplay is the the words of the show, or in this case, the outline with grave detail. It also outlines which performer acts which section. The director then reviews the detailed outline and discusses with the writers on changes. Once the writers produce an outline that is approved by the director, the outline is then passed to the performers. The performers have a short period to review the whole outline and get a few practices in. That allows them to find out which words they'll want to fill in as the ad lib for the performance. Then they meet with the director and do takes on small sections of their part in the podcast. Once the director is satisfied, he can then pass it to the people in charge of putting all the right performance takes together into 1 show. The director then reviews it one final time and then it's published.

Once the writers have the episode written and passed to the actors, they should begin working on the next episode right away. This keeps the time frame between each episode minimal and your audience interested. We don't like to wait a month or two for a new episode. This is also supposed to be a fun project, so the director should be in charge of how frequently and at what pace the team works. If Rever decides that once a month is good enough, than that is your time frame.

A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.
Doddsy
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:44 PM) *
A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.

I'll speak with Reaver, you seem to have some very good ideas.
One
QUOTE (Doddsy @ Jul 16 2008, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:44 PM) *
A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.

I'll speak with Reaver, you seem to have some very good ideas.


Wasn't this topic about RADIO casting. smile.gif He has the right ideas but i'm thinking more on the line of "LIVE" shows smile.gif
Because we aren't all in one area we will find it hard to make a live show with everyone inside of it, but i'm sure there are ways.
Agent F
QUOTE (Unknown @ Jul 16 2008, 05:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Doddsy @ Jul 16 2008, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:44 PM) *
A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.

I'll speak with Reaver, you seem to have some very good ideas.


Wasn't this topic about RADIO casting. smile.gif He has the right ideas but i'm thinking more on the line of "LIVE" shows smile.gif

The only difference I see between the radio show and the podcast is that the radio cast would be live. With some more work, the Podcast could become a live event including the now feature of listening to it at your leisure. Or are you just referring to radio disc jockeys who mostly play music instead of having discussions?
One
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Unknown @ Jul 16 2008, 05:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Doddsy @ Jul 16 2008, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:44 PM) *
A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.

I'll speak with Reaver, you seem to have some very good ideas.


Wasn't this topic about RADIO casting. smile.gif He has the right ideas but i'm thinking more on the line of "LIVE" shows smile.gif

The only difference I see between the radio show and the podcast is that the radio cast would be live. With some more work, the Podcast could become a live event including the now feature of listening to it at your leisure. Or are you just referring to radio disc jockeys who mostly play music instead of having discussions?


I'm talking about the real deal, discussions and what not. I think with work as you said it could be done. We could even have "The "unknown" show! :: Broadcasting now!" aware.gif
Stobbo
QUOTE (Unknown @ Jul 16 2008, 10:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Unknown @ Jul 16 2008, 05:48 PM) *
QUOTE (Doddsy @ Jul 16 2008, 09:46 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 09:44 PM) *
A lot of my suggestion involves working closely together. You can't meet in real life, so you'll have to make due with instant messengers, video conferences, and other Internet tools. I really do want this group to succeed, and I think it has great potential. It just needs a bit more organization, communication, and work from all groups on the team.

I'll speak with Reaver, you seem to have some very good ideas.


Wasn't this topic about RADIO casting. smile.gif He has the right ideas but i'm thinking more on the line of "LIVE" shows smile.gif

The only difference I see between the radio show and the podcast is that the radio cast would be live. With some more work, the Podcast could become a live event including the now feature of listening to it at your leisure. Or are you just referring to radio disc jockeys who mostly play music instead of having discussions?


I'm talking about the real deal, discussions and what not. I think with work as you said it could be done. We could even have "The "unknown" show! :: Broadcasting now!" aware.gif


That'd never work. If each DJ does 2 hours a week, that is 84 DJ's needed. And you will need more than one on if your going to have a talk show. It just isn't feasible, in my mind.
Agent F
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 06:10 PM) *
That'd never work. If each DJ does 2 hours a week, that is 84 DJ's needed. And you will need more than one on if your going to have a talk show. It just isn't feasible, in my mind.

You wouldn't need a DJ on 24/7. Not all radio shows do that right now anyways. They typically have a few hours where a machine just plays music and hits commercials.
Stobbo
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 11:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 06:10 PM) *
That'd never work. If each DJ does 2 hours a week, that is 84 DJ's needed. And you will need more than one on if your going to have a talk show. It just isn't feasible, in my mind.

You wouldn't need a DJ on 24/7. Not all radio shows do that right now anyways. They typically have a few hours where a machine just plays music and hits commercials.

And those are localized stations, in one timezone. For Sal's, it is always daytime somewhere, and it would be a tad unfair if one section of the world never got a proper talk show or something.

This is a grand idea and would be amazing but I can't see it being possible. I'm trying to be realistic.
Agent F
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 06:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 11:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 06:10 PM) *
That'd never work. If each DJ does 2 hours a week, that is 84 DJ's needed. And you will need more than one on if your going to have a talk show. It just isn't feasible, in my mind.

You wouldn't need a DJ on 24/7. Not all radio shows do that right now anyways. They typically have a few hours where a machine just plays music and hits commercials.

And those are localized stations, in one timezone. For Sal's, it is always daytime somewhere, and it would be a tad unfair if one section of the world never got a proper talk show or something.

I've already covered that a few posts up. "With some more work, the Podcast could become a live event including the now feature of listening to it at your leisure." Meaning those people who can't listen live could still download it. It's very well possible, but I can't be sure if it's probable. I still think it's worth a try though.
Reavwe
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.
Topdog
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.

You don't need everyone there to complete a show, perhaps, you can always get replacements on short notice, if they have a microphone and Skype.
Reavwe
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.

You don't need everyone there to complete a show, perhaps, you can always get replacements on short notice, if they have a microphone and Skype.

And sound as unprofessional as possible biggrin.gif?
Sofee
I've got Skype and MSN. It wouldn't be a problem for me to communicate.
Agent F
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:50 PM) *
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.

You don't need everyone there to complete a show, perhaps, you can always get replacements on short notice, if they have a microphone and Skype.

And sound as unprofessional as possible biggrin.gif?

You don't need all the performers together at one time. You as the director organize a time where the part can be recorded. Later on in the process, all the parts are put together. You also got to make time with the group.
One
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 10:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Agent F @ Jul 16 2008, 11:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Jul 16 2008, 06:10 PM) *
That'd never work. If each DJ does 2 hours a week, that is 84 DJ's needed. And you will need more than one on if your going to have a talk show. It just isn't feasible, in my mind.

You wouldn't need a DJ on 24/7. Not all radio shows do that right now anyways. They typically have a few hours where a machine just plays music and hits commercials.

And those are localized stations, in one timezone. For Sal's, it is always daytime somewhere, and it would be a tad unfair if one section of the world never got a proper talk show or something.

This is a grand idea and would be amazing but I can't see it being possible. I'm trying to be realistic.


The show could be recorded and played at a persons leisure?
Topdog
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:50 PM) *
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.

You don't need everyone there to complete a show, perhaps, you can always get replacements on short notice, if they have a microphone and Skype.

And sound as unprofessional as possible biggrin.gif?

No, not really, I listen to other podcasts that have their hosts on and off the show, and they put up a good show.
After all, do what's best for your hosts.
One
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 17 2008, 04:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:50 PM) *
QUOTE (iTopdog @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Reaver @ Jul 16 2008, 09:02 PM) *
The problem with a live broadcast is people's scheduling. We cant always be sure people will be there when needed. It's very do-able in terms of technology, but in terms of variety, it would likely be a very boring show. The same goes for a somewhat live, but edited.

You don't need everyone there to complete a show, perhaps, you can always get replacements on short notice, if they have a microphone and Skype.

And sound as unprofessional as possible biggrin.gif?

No, not really, I listen to other podcasts that have their hosts on and off the show, and they put up a good show.
After all, do what's best for your hosts.


We must do that, however we must also decide what is better for the salcast and what our writers can do for our hosts.
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