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farbods0
Do you think they will make a new iphone after the 3g? I was thinking of buying a 3g since i have ATT and so I was wondering if I should wait or not.
Qwertqwertbo
Probably, they came out with a lot of different Ipods so they're likely to follow that trend.

It may be flat with a touch screen, but the Ipod is wide as hell.
farbods0
so should i wait?
Bob-sama
I would say it doesn't matter much either way. Most of the time, the firmware upgrades should be made available to past models as well, much like the iPhone v. iPhone 3G. You may be missing out on better battery life of faster hardware, but that's about it. The alternative is to consider a different phone. Do note that your DRM-protected music can be burned to a CD (or to a virtual CD, using a program like Virtual CloneDrive) and then ripped off of that CD unprotected (to MP3, WAV, FLAC, &c). Unfortunately you'll still be stuck with the lossy MP4 data, so reencoding can make it sound a (tad) bit worse than before.

Anyways--the iPhone isn't the be-all, end-all phone. I'd say consider some other phones as well. Do realize that the fundamental rule of technology is better, faster, cheaper tomorrow. Once a phone has the feature-set you want and is fast enough, then it's time to buy.
Fencefry
I expect an updated battery, cheaper and faster hardware, and an even more vibrant screen for it's release to other carriers.
Magical
I'm pretty sure I've read something recently about the iPhone 2.1 or something...

~Magical
Fencefry
QUOTE (Magical @ Dec 8 2008, 08:21 AM) *
I'm pretty sure I've read something recently about the iPhone 2.1 or something...

~Magical


Firmware update maybe? tongue.gif
Stobbo
They inevitably will and continue to for many years. With technology you just have to make the jump and buy. The market moves too quick, so if you wait 6 months, you'll see something which is worth waiting another 6 months for, and the cycle goes on.
Bob-sama
The only good point is that mobile phones only drop in price once they actually obsolete. In comparison to graphics cards, which will start at a reasonable price but will continue to drop. For example, a Radeon HD 4870 started at $300. Today, they can be had for sub-$200. A Radeon HD 4850 started at $210, and can be had today for $120. And so on--they continue to drop in price, albeit faster than GeForce high-end cards, since those are manufacturer almost exclusively with nVidia reference designs and reference coolers.
Mossad
I am sure that there will make a new version. It always evolves. biggrin.gif
Magical
QUOTE (Fencefry @ Dec 8 2008, 08:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Magical @ Dec 8 2008, 08:21 AM) *
I'm pretty sure I've read something recently about the iPhone 2.1 or something...

~Magical


Firmware update maybe? tongue.gif

No, I'm pretty sure it was actually a new phone, but I may just be getting confused tongue.gif

~Magical
Drolleke
QUOTE (Magical @ Dec 10 2008, 02:29 PM) *
QUOTE (Fencefry @ Dec 8 2008, 08:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Magical @ Dec 8 2008, 08:21 AM) *
I'm pretty sure I've read something recently about the iPhone 2.1 or something...

~Magical


Firmware update maybe? tongue.gif

No, I'm pretty sure it was actually a new phone, but I may just be getting confused tongue.gif

~Magical

no xd, it was a firmware update, with a lot of fixes etc. current is 2.2 btw.
Bcloutier
A new iPhone will be released July 2009 most likely. Talks are of an 'iPhone HD' with 800x640 screen, Wireless N and other options. But all in all, it's still an iPhone - the software will be the same through all three models most likely (iPhone vs iPhone 3G).

I would say to also look at BlackBerries. AT&T just got the Bold 9000 which is quite a nice phone. Too bad you guys won't be getting the new 8900 until mid-February and it'll be on T-Mobile. I love both iPhones and BlackBerries - both are fantastic phones for what they do. iPhones are for media (iPod, web browsing) while BlackBerries are for communication (emailing, texting). I'm getting a BlackBerry 8900 because I text and email often and already own an iPod Touch.

So it's all up to you what phone you want. Look at your priorities and you'll find the phone for you, whether that's an iPhone or another type of phone.

~Bcloutier~
creamers
I personaly have a iphone and like the Ipod Touch going to 32gb the iphone will go to the 32gb which there is no need for it though.
Whitey
With every 12-18 months there is a upgrade in model. Being software or hardware, no doubt they will bring something out mid next year.
creamers
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.
Bcloutier
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~
creamers
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.
Bob-sama
I'd be more interested in techs like WiMax, but for netbooks. That's basically the ultimate purpose: wireless internet anywhere, anytime, with an extraordinary battery life. I'm waiting for WiMax to come to my metro area--once it does, I'll take a real good look into it and into upgrading to a new laptop.
Stobbo
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.

If you'd take a look at Wikipedia, we aren't going to see 4G for some years.
creamers
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Dec 14 2008, 03:58 PM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.

If you'd take a look at Wikipedia, we aren't going to see 4G for some years.


Supposedly to Att and verizon are to share a 4g tower.
vausey
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.



Do you mean HSDPA My phone uses HSDPA (3.5G) and it's pretty good already for browsing the internet and streaming internet radio. 4G might be a bit OTT in my opinion, bit of a gimmick.

creamers
QUOTE (vausey @ Dec 16 2008, 08:37 PM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.



Do you mean HSDPA My phone uses HSDPA (3.5G) and it's pretty good already for browsing the internet and streaming internet radio. 4G might be a bit OTT in my opinion, bit of a gimmick.


NO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G is what im talking about.
Stobbo
QUOTE (vausey @ Dec 17 2008, 01:37 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.



Do you mean HSDPA My phone uses HSDPA (3.5G) and it's pretty good already for browsing the internet and streaming internet radio. 4G might be a bit OTT in my opinion, bit of a gimmick.

I don't think 4G will be a gimmick, it just has no use right now. By the time it is widespread, maybe we'll want stupidly high speeds on our mobile phones.
creamers
QUOTE (Stobbo @ Dec 17 2008, 02:45 AM) *
QUOTE (vausey @ Dec 17 2008, 01:37 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 06:54 AM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 14 2008, 01:49 AM) *
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 13 2008, 08:50 PM) *
I read something on ap saying walmart is training thier workers to sell 4G Iphones never even heard of 4g.

You mean 4GB iPhone 3G's? That rumor has been busted. Wal-Mart is selling 8GB and 16GB iPhone 3G's for $2 cheaper than AT&T and Apple. That's all.

There is no 'iPhone 4G'. 4G data service is years away and with AT&T's service lately, I think they'll take even longer than Rogers in Canada. At least to have quality service (think about their 3G service earlier this year).

~Bcloutier~



No same hard drives 4g service look it up on wikipedia 4g service exists.



Do you mean HSDPA My phone uses HSDPA (3.5G) and it's pretty good already for browsing the internet and streaming internet radio. 4G might be a bit OTT in my opinion, bit of a gimmick.

I don't think 4G will be a gimmick, it just has no use right now. By the time it is widespread, maybe we'll want stupidly high speeds on our mobile phones.


I hope so right now I clock around 3 megs download with 4g with 10megs per second would be awesome.
Fencefry
The one thing 4G would be really helpful for is those laptop internet anywhere cards. Since you're loading full webpages, you need as much speed as possible. And on an average basis the battery usage shouldn't be a big problem.
The Love Muscle
Really not that good, quite poor quality, No bluetooth, doesn't even have MMS, Camera is 2MP so not the best!

They will make a new version, as so many people have complained, i would say wait.

x
Bob-sama
I'd say go with any old phone you like. The only advice I say is unlimited data may be worth your while--especially if you're allowed to use the "phone as modem". The next phone I get will probably be a Samsung Instinct and I'll get an unlimited data plan. Then the cool/nice thing is that when I'm in my home airport or away with my laptop, I can still get the internet away from free wifi hotspots. Many of the data-only plans (express-card, pcmcia, usb adapters) limit you to 5GB though. Still not bad.

Anyways--point being, find a phone that suits your wants or needs, and buy it. If you're really worried about style, get a 1-year contract.
King Aragorn
Its something about iPhone that makes it bad:
You cant hack it, and that means every application you get, has to be the correct signing.
The signing is a little certificate like in IE to find out if its safe.
It would have to be more advanced like other kind of phones like Samsung, SE, Nokia and HTC plus some other manufacturers if it was going to be made a fully capable filemanager.
These phones has their own programming language, Symbian has Carbide.VS (for developing inVB studio), .UI (for making themes), and some other, Windows has some own language, and SE and Samsung has Java and others.
But the iPhone is way behind the Smartphone class, with Windows Mobile, S60 and some Samsung,

In my opinion iPhone is too much focus on design slanty.gif
Apple didnt think of anything else,
and thats why every game has to be bought.. (because the code is too difficult for other people to learn and then they dont want to, and then its few coding it, and makes it complicated to find much free goodies)

I know about hacking of phones from another forum tongue.gif (a Symbian forum.. You can also find alot of S60 games and apps biggrin.gif )
creamers
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Dec 21 2008, 01:06 PM) *
Its something about iPhone that makes it bad:
You cant hack it, and that means every application you get, has to be the correct signing.
The signing is a little certificate like in IE to find out if its safe.
It would have to be more advanced like other kind of phones like Samsung, SE, Nokia and HTC plus some other manufacturers if it was going to be made a fully capable filemanager.
These phones has their own programming language, Symbian has Carbide.VS (for developing inVB studio), .UI (for making themes), and some other, Windows has some own language, and SE and Samsung has Java and others.
But the iPhone is way behind the Smartphone class, with Windows Mobile, S60 and some Samsung,

In my opinion iPhone is too much focus on design slanty.gif
Apple didnt think of anything else,
and thats why every game has to be bought.. (because the code is too difficult for other people to learn and then they dont want to, and then its few coding it, and makes it complicated to find much free goodies)

I know about hacking of phones from another forum tongue.gif (a Symbian forum.. You can also find alot of S60 games and apps biggrin.gif )


You can hack all the iphones and unlock them and hack all the touchs now as of about 1 week ago. Heard of Jailbreaking.

Mods: Can I talk a little about Jailbreaking???
Bcloutier
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 21 2008, 06:14 PM) *
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Dec 21 2008, 01:06 PM) *
Its something about iPhone that makes it bad:
You cant hack it, and that means every application you get, has to be the correct signing.
The signing is a little certificate like in IE to find out if its safe.
It would have to be more advanced like other kind of phones like Samsung, SE, Nokia and HTC plus some other manufacturers if it was going to be made a fully capable filemanager.
These phones has their own programming language, Symbian has Carbide.VS (for developing inVB studio), .UI (for making themes), and some other, Windows has some own language, and SE and Samsung has Java and others.
But the iPhone is way behind the Smartphone class, with Windows Mobile, S60 and some Samsung,

In my opinion iPhone is too much focus on design slanty.gif
Apple didnt think of anything else,
and thats why every game has to be bought.. (because the code is too difficult for other people to learn and then they dont want to, and then its few coding it, and makes it complicated to find much free goodies)

I know about hacking of phones from another forum tongue.gif (a Symbian forum.. You can also find alot of S60 games and apps biggrin.gif )


You can hack all the iphones and unlock them and hack all the touchs now as of about 1 week ago. Heard of Jailbreaking.

Mods: Can I talk a little about Jailbreaking???

iPhones are good for what they do: Media tasks. Safari, iPod, gaming is all done well. The App Store is amazing and almost everyone agrees. Other platforms need to catch up in that area.

As for typing (email, SMS, IM, etc) the iPhone is 50/50. It's user preference. I can type very fast on my iPod Touch but if I hand it to a friend to try it's like watching a three year old try to use a computer. Doesn't work so well. They need to get practice to type properly and fast.

iPhones and iPod Touch's, if needed, can be jailbroken to get access to App's outside of Apple's App Store. I recently jailbroke my iPod Touch and, for me, it added nothing to it that I wanted. Other peoples' experiences are always going to be different.

Although, you're wrong about the iPhones being unlocked. Currently only iPhone 2G's can be unlocked. iPhone 3G's running 2.0 will be unlocked around New Year's. 2.1 and 2.2 will be coming along soon hopefully.

~Bcloutier~
Drolleke
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 22 2008, 11:04 PM) *
Although, you're wrong about the iPhones being unlocked. Currently only iPhone 2G's can be unlocked. iPhone 3G's running 2.0 will be unlocked around New Year's. 2.1 and 2.2 will be coming along soon hopefully.

~Bcloutier~


actually : http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/16/iphone-...y-the-dev-team/

They just need to make it user friendly, but they have unlocked it.
creamers
QUOTE (Drolleke @ Dec 22 2008, 07:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 22 2008, 11:04 PM) *
Although, you're wrong about the iPhones being unlocked. Currently only iPhone 2G's can be unlocked. iPhone 3G's running 2.0 will be unlocked around New Year's. 2.1 and 2.2 will be coming along soon hopefully.

~Bcloutier~


actually : http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/16/iphone-...y-the-dev-team/

They just need to make it user friendly, but they have unlocked it.


yeah yellowsn0w for the 3g and touch 2g jailbreak is in beta and soon to come.
Bcloutier
QUOTE (Drolleke @ Dec 22 2008, 04:26 PM) *
QUOTE (Bcloutier @ Dec 22 2008, 11:04 PM) *
Although, you're wrong about the iPhones being unlocked. Currently only iPhone 2G's can be unlocked. iPhone 3G's running 2.0 will be unlocked around New Year's. 2.1 and 2.2 will be coming along soon hopefully.

~Bcloutier~


actually : http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/16/iphone-...y-the-dev-team/

They just need to make it user friendly, but they have unlocked it.

Yeah, I knew it had been unlocked but wasn't publicly available. That's what I meant - unlockable by the public.

~Bcloutier~
King Aragorn
Its something i know..
Would an iPhone beat a S60 phone like N96 in gaming?
Just look here: http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26965
Did you guys know the old N-Gage platfrom is liven up from the N-Gage phones to other phones?
The S60 platform has a powerful 3D acceleration that makes it good for 3D games.
Now thats something iPhone cant wink.gif
The iPhone is most interface but not power which makes it easily beaten by N95 or N96.

And by hack i meant HACK, on a S60 phone you can change anything in the system after a successful hack.
That means you can have another startup-video, sound, also change the menu alot, thats because its an own ROM file-system on the phones that is hidden unless you use another filebrowser, but on a hacked phone this drive gets writeable.
What your talking about must be startup hack to avoid the lock.
vausey
QUOTE
"The iPhone is the most widely distributed phone with a (graphics processing unit)," said Mr Daley.

"Most phones out today don't have accelerated graphics in them. The iPhone does and so it enabled us to do something that has been previously difficult to do."

"I couldn't just pick up a Blackberry or a Nokia off the shelf and build Seadragon for it without GPU support," he added.

Seadragon is the engine that drives Microsoft's photo-browsing software, Photosynth. Designed for viewing large images over the internet, it works by storing multiple resolutions of the file.


Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7784084.stm

iPhone has Accelerated graphics like the N96
Falcon
You shouldn't even be asking this question, they would make a new human race if they could xd.gif
Apple never stops at one thing, they always keep upgrading, and remodeling them avery year.

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Dec 23 2008, 05:24 AM) *
Its something i know..
Would an iPhone beat a S60 phone like N96 in gaming?
Just look here: http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26965
Did you guys know the old N-Gage platfrom is liven up from the N-Gage phones to other phones?
The S60 platform has a powerful 3D acceleration that makes it good for 3D games.
Now thats something iPhone cant wink.gif
The iPhone is most interface but not power which makes it easily beaten by N95 or N96.

And by hack i meant HACK, on a S60 phone you can change anything in the system after a successful hack.
That means you can have another startup-video, sound, also change the menu alot, thats because its an own ROM file-system on the phones that is hidden unless you use another filebrowser, but on a hacked phone this drive gets writeable.
What your talking about must be startup hack to avoid the lock.

With some of the games coming out, and that are out on the iPhone, yes the iPhone does beat that.
Here's some of the future released, and already released platformers for the iPhone:

Quake 4 - Waiting for acceptance
Sim City - Released
Brothers in arms hour of heroes - Released

So the iPhone does have some good games, all you really have to do is wait and see what happens, new things are always being released biggrin.gif
Toungy
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Dec 23 2008, 11:24 AM) *
Its something i know..
Would an iPhone beat a S60 phone like N96 in gaming?
Just look here: http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26965
Did you guys know the old N-Gage platfrom is liven up from the N-Gage phones to other phones?
The S60 platform has a powerful 3D acceleration that makes it good for 3D games.
Now thats something iPhone cant wink.gif
The iPhone is most interface but not power which makes it easily beaten by N95 or N96.

And by hack i meant HACK, on a S60 phone you can change anything in the system after a successful hack.
That means you can have another startup-video, sound, also change the menu alot, thats because its an own ROM file-system on the phones that is hidden unless you use another filebrowser, but on a hacked phone this drive gets writeable.
What your talking about must be startup hack to avoid the lock.

Which is funny, because the iPhone is by far the most popular mobile phone ever when it comes to playing video games on the device.

I have one and let me tell you, it runs 3D graphics and it runs them very well. tongue.gif
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