redmonke
Dec 13 2008, 11:09 PM
Read here, WITH PICTURES!I think it looks pretty cool, wouldn't make me buy a mac though.
Definition
Dec 13 2008, 11:15 PM
looks like IKEA assembly instructions
(Whoever knows where I got that from wins)
creamers
Dec 13 2008, 11:48 PM
That would be cool i might be in snow leopard if were lucky.
Bob-sama
Dec 14 2008, 04:29 AM
What I dislike is how Vista is always insulted for the Aero, while somehow OSX always gets a free pass. By the way--I don't like it. I am already disgusted by how over-animated the current GUIs are, especially in comparison to Vista. First thing I do with any Vista machine is turn UAC off. Next is to turn Aero on. Third? Turn window animation off. I don't know if you can do that currently with OSX though--I've not had that long-term access to it.
Anyways--looks interesting enough, I guess. I think they should focus more on better designing their keyboard and mouse (IMO, both are horrible) for large hands than the actual GUI, though.
Magical
Dec 14 2008, 05:30 AM
It looks pretty cool - though I can't really make much sense out of the drawing at the moment :-) I think Tabarnak got the right idea.
~Magical
Whitey
Dec 14 2008, 06:56 AM
I see what they are trying to do, if this is an actual blueprint.
djpailo
Dec 14 2008, 07:07 AM
I can't see the purpose of having a 3D OS other than for looks. It's a waste of money if you ask me.
Magical
Dec 14 2008, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (djpailo @ Dec 14 2008, 12:07 PM)

I can't see the purpose of having a 3D OS other than for looks. It's a waste of money if you ask me.
Macs are meant to look good, that's why I use half my memory making icons bounce up and down - it also maximizes the space possible to do things in...
~Magical
Acid
Dec 14 2008, 10:28 AM
we've had this since windows 95, this style has just overexaggerated an existing feature to try and improve it.
Emo_Nemo
Dec 14 2008, 11:11 AM
http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/Sun has already been developing it for a while
Apple is gonna try and rip this off and claim Sun copied just like they do with everything else.
I smell a lawsuit
creamers
Dec 14 2008, 02:28 PM
QUOTE (The Angel Bunny @ Dec 14 2008, 11:11 AM)

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/Sun has already been developing it for a while
Apple is gonna try and rip this off and claim Sun copied just like they do with everything else.
I smell a lawsuit
of course you do apple is just more powerful then sun.
Bcloutier
Dec 14 2008, 02:36 PM
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Dec 14 2008, 01:29 AM)

What I dislike is how Vista is always insulted for the Aero, while somehow OSX always gets a free pass. By the way--I don't like it. I am already disgusted by how over-animated the current GUIs are, especially in comparison to Vista. First thing I do with any Vista machine is turn UAC off. Next is to turn Aero on. Third? Turn window animation off. I don't know if you can do that currently with OSX though--I've not had that long-term access to it.
Anyways--looks interesting enough, I guess. I think they should focus more on better designing their keyboard and mouse (IMO, both are horrible) for large hands than the actual GUI, though.
Yes, you can turn those off. Use
TinkerTool and it'll work. I've had no experience with it but it's a highly recommended program.
Honestly, 3D doesn't excite me at all. If anything, it makes the screen look even smaller... I'm working with a 13.3" screen that seems small enough at times - I don't want it to look like an 11" or 12" screen. :x
I somehow doubt this will be coming in Snow Leopard as that OS is meant to focus on performance and not visuals and new features.
~Bcloutier~
Fencefry
Dec 14 2008, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (Tabarnak @ Dec 13 2008, 11:15 PM)

looks like IKEA assembly instructions
(Whoever knows where I got that from wins)
I don't know the reference, but I do know I suck at putting IKEA stuff together.
Magical
Dec 14 2008, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (The Angel Bunny @ Dec 14 2008, 04:11 PM)

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/Sun has already been developing it for a while
Apple is gonna try and rip this off and claim Sun copied just like they do with everything else.
I smell a lawsuit
Now I can understand those pictures. Wouldn't it be so cool if it was touch screen?
~Magical
Bob-sama
Dec 14 2008, 05:03 PM
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 02:28 PM)

QUOTE (The Angel Bunny @ Dec 14 2008, 11:11 AM)

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/Sun has already been developing it for a while
Apple is gonna try and rip this off and claim Sun copied just like they do with everything else.
I smell a lawsuit
of course you do apple is just more powerful then sun.
Whose world are you living in? Sun is most definitely more powerful, innovative, and worthwhile than Apple. The only real difference is Sun is a major contender for supercomputing, mainframes, servers, corporate OS's, and even office software. Basically Sun is Microsoft (business-centric) minus Apple (personal-centric) plus IBM (hardware design), to explain it with their primary focus and abilities. In my opinion, Sun is dozens of times more innovative than Apple or Microsoft.
Anyways--I much prefer the Sun Micro.Sys. approach to a 3D desktop then the Apple approach. We'll see though--and no doubt the hordes of the Cult of Steve Jobs
TM will follow blindly.
Magical
Dec 14 2008, 05:11 PM
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Dec 14 2008, 10:03 PM)

QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 14 2008, 02:28 PM)

QUOTE (The Angel Bunny @ Dec 14 2008, 11:11 AM)

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/Sun has already been developing it for a while
Apple is gonna try and rip this off and claim Sun copied just like they do with everything else.
I smell a lawsuit
of course you do apple is just more powerful then sun.
Whose world are you living in? Sun is most definitely more powerful, innovative, and worthwhile than Apple. The only real difference is Sun is a major contender for supercomputing, mainframes, servers, corporate OS's, and even office software. Basically Sun is Microsoft (business-centric) minus Apple (personal-centric) plus IBM (hardware design), to explain it with their primary focus and abilities. In my opinion, Sun is dozens of times more innovative than Apple or Microsoft.
Anyways--I much prefer the Sun Micro.Sys. approach to a 3D desktop then the Apple approach. We'll see though--and no doubt the hordes of the Cult of Steve Jobs
TM will follow blindly.
Looking at the pictures on their website - I'm sure Apple will make it look better

~Magical
Bob-sama
Dec 14 2008, 05:18 PM
I guess here's the difference between the innovative closed-platform and then even-more-innovative open-platform approach. Just from that presentation, the Sun rendition looks a lot better, and more importantly, cleaner.
creamers
Dec 14 2008, 09:16 PM
I meaning Sun only sells there stuff though there site and Apple sells there stuff though retail giving them more money and power in the market.
Stobbo
Dec 15 2008, 02:27 AM
QUOTE (creamers @ Dec 15 2008, 02:16 AM)

I meaning Sun only sells there stuff though there site and Apple sells there stuff though retail giving them more money and power in the market.
They are two totally different companies, aiming at different markets, so you can't compare their money and power based on that.
Haleth
Dec 15 2008, 07:29 AM
I still wonder "why".
Having looked at the blueprints and the Sun demonstration, I really don't see why it would be of any use. Hurrah, I can watch my videos from behind! Amazing, I can run two videos and put them on the side so I don't see anything of them while still using tons of my CPU!
If Apple is going to put this in their new OSes, they'd need way more powerful computers. Imagine playing a game on a full 3D desktop - you'd need an amazing CPU/graphics card.
Bob-sama
Dec 15 2008, 07:37 AM
Actually you'd need 3D-acceleration. Something that Apple lacks much of, ironically. Anyways--it is useful, it is nice. Depending on how it ends up working, that is. For the Sun version, I could see making notes very useful if they're retrieveable whenever you revisit the site, not just when you save the site to your HDD>
Haleth
Dec 15 2008, 07:55 AM
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Dec 15 2008, 01:37 PM)

Actually you'd need 3D-acceleration. Something that Apple lacks much of, ironically. Anyways--it is useful, it is nice. Depending on how it ends up working, that is. For the Sun version, I could see making notes very useful if they're retrieveable whenever you revisit the site, not just when you save the site to your HDD>
But do you really need a 3D-desktop just to take notes? Integrate a note feature in the browser and it's done.
Bob-sama
Dec 15 2008, 03:39 PM
No, yo ureally don't, but then why have a GUI of any kind at all? What's the point if you're just going to be doing 1 thing at a time?
King Aragorn
Dec 15 2008, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (Tabarnak @ Dec 14 2008, 05:15 AM)

looks like IKEA assembly instructions
(Whoever knows where I got that from wins)
You must be from the north..
It does look like a IKEA instruction sheet.
Compare

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http://vmguld.se/filer/lampa_prototyp02.jpg(Sorry for bad picture

, didnt take it myself, just searched google

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Veni vidi vici
Dec 22 2008, 08:37 AM
It would be cool... Though I'm positive it will cost over 2k and will make me very, very poor(er).
Looks cool though... If it works that is. It's kind of like W95 when it first came out... they couldn't even turn it on

~Vincent
Falcon
Dec 24 2008, 12:21 PM
You can't always believe what you see, even if it's on a site like that.
Example:
Emo_Nemo
Dec 24 2008, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (Falcon @ Dec 24 2008, 12:21 PM)

You can't always believe what you see, even if it's on a site like that.
Example:

Its a US patent lol....
iEthan
Dec 27 2008, 10:41 PM
I might consider it when it is in Version 2, and even then for free, because it will be wildly expensive, and I would want it just to try it, not to keep.
No real use, unless for virtual machines.
~iE
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