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Have you ever wondered how many chickens it would take to kill TzTok-Jad? If not, why not? Have a guess and find out in this month's Postbag from the Hedge.

If you prefer more refined pleasures, we can offer the musings of Azzanadra and a ditty penned by a gardening leprechaun.

(the Jad section is certainly worth a read tongue.gif)

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I’ve often wondered – as I’m sure you have – just how dangerous TzTok-Jad is. Well, fellow warriors, wonder no more! Having spent decades of my life in battle with the most dangerous of creatures, and an equal amount of time calculating how many tinderboxes it would take to set Morytania alight, I can assuredly provide you with the theoretical results of the most epic battle never to have graced the Fight Cave of the TzHaar city: TzTok-Jad vs. Chickens!

Unfortunately, chickens are categorically incapable of hurting TzTok-Jad, so I’ve had to use roosters. Not quite the same, but amusing nonetheless.

The Situations

  1. For simplicity’s sake, assume that TzTok-Jad can be swamped by any number of roosters, each of whom would be capable of pecking at him simultaneously. How many said roosters would be required for the mighty beast of magma to fall to a single peck from each rooster; that is, how many pecks does it take to defeat TzTok-Jad, ignoring any opportunity for him to regenerate or to call upon his Yt-HurKot henchmen?

  2. More complexity. Assume that the roosters cannot stand upon each other’s heads, therefore leaving space for only 24 roosters to attack at any one time. Ignoring TzTok-Jad’s ability to regenerate, how long would it take those roosters to defeat him, and how many more would be required?

  3. Finally, how many roosters must survive to the last wave of the Fight Cave to have a chance of defeating TzTok-Jad when his regeneration and Yt-HurKot assistance are accounted for?


It should be noted that chickens are capable of fighting diagonally, but only when in the Fight Cave. This little-known fact accounts for the fact that TzTok-Jad is actually allergic to chicken, even though the temperature in the TzHaar city is actually too high for any normal chicken to survive longer than a few minutes. For convenience, I assume roosters can do the same.

The Maths

First, some interesting numbers:

A rooster has 7 Hitpoints. They have a 0.77% chance of hitting TzTok-Jad, and then only a 50% chance of inflicting a measly 1 Hitpoint in damage. Against an Yt-HurKot they are much more successful, and have a 5.48% chance of hitting, followed by the same 50% chance of inflicting 1 Hitpoint of pain.

TzTok-Jad has 250 Hitpoints, and will ordinarily regain 1 lost Hitpoint every minute. When he has 150 Hitpoints left, four Yt-HurKot will spawn to heal him. As a godly creature of magma-fuelled destruction, TzTok-Jad has an average chance (across all attack methods) to hit a rooster of 99.78%, and has an average maximum hit of 96.5 damage.

Yt-HurKot have 60 Hitpoints, and will heal 1 Hitpoint per minute. They have a 98.85% chance of hitting a rooster, and can inflict up to 11 Hitpoints damage.

Right, on with the amusing theories…

  1. Each rooster has a 0.385% chance of wounding TzTok-Jad, so you need 259.74 roosters to inflict one Hitpoint of damage. As TzTok-Jad has 250 Hitpoints, it will therefore require 64,935 roosters to defeat TzTok-Jad in a single instant of frenzied pecking.

  2. Because we can still assume that 64,935 pecks are required, and that 24 occur each attack cycle (which, for a rooster, is approximately every 2.4 seconds), we can know that it will take 6,493.5 seconds, or 1 hour 48 minutes 13.5 seconds. Not bad, for a pack of feathered wimps, I’m sure you’ll agree! The roosters, however, are constantly being attacked by TzTok-Jad, who has a 99.78% chance of hitting a rooster in melee, and a 92.75% chance of killing them outright with each hit, so he has a 92.55% chance of killing a rooster with every attack. In the time he survives, TzTok-Jad would be able to slay 2,509 roosters, so you would then only need 2,533 roosters (because you still need 24 roosters around Jad at the time of his demise).

  3. Roosters are foolish creatures and unlikely to think of attacking the Yt-HurKot as they arrive to heal their master, so it would then become effectively impossible.

    If, however, the roosters were elevated intellectually to the level at which this would occur to them, they could easily continue to attack TzTok-Jad while the remaining thousands of feathered beasts deal with the irritating little blighters. This will, of course, take much longer and require far more birds.

    TzTok-Jad heals himself at a rate of 1 every minute, while the 24 roosters are inflicting 1 point of damage every 25.97 seconds on average, so the roosters instead inflict 1.31 Hitpoints of damage every minute (TzTok-Jad having healed one Hitpoint during that time). This means that it will take them 1 hour 16 minutes 20.4 seconds to get TzTok-Jad to 150 health, thus spawning the wretched Yt-HurKot, and a further 1 hour 54 minutes 30 seconds to finish him off if the other roosters are capable of occupying them. TzTok-Jad, therefore, will be able to slay 4,593.65 roosters in the 3 hours 10 minutes 50.4 seconds the battle lasts.

    The Yt-HurKot, meanwhile, will no doubt be finishing a few off themselves. The chickens have a 2.74% chance of doing 1 point of damage to an Yt-HurKot every 2.4 seconds, but 8 can attack each of them, so will do 0.21 Hitpoints’ damage every time they attack. At this rate, it will take them 12 minutes 45.6 seconds to kill an Yt-HurKot (including the time calculated for the Yt-HurKot’s normal regeneration). In that time, however, their prey will finish off 172.43 roosters. As Yt-HurKot only respawn regularly if TzTok-Jad gets back to full health, the birds will only have to face 4 of them and suffer a loss of 689.72 of their number.

    In total, this means that you will need 5,308 roosters to make it through the previous 63 waves in order to have good odds of winning a fire cape. Of course, roosters have no need of capes, so they’ll probably just ask for some TokKul so they can save up for an onyx to craft into a ring of stone, in the hope that at least one of their hens will survive the brutal culling they face every day at the hands of eager fletchers and adventurers completing Cook’s Assistant.


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King Bin
i like the jad one! i loled at 3000 and something chickens for the first 63 waves!

w00t first post reply!
Magical
They're not that bad, actually.

second post reply! *just to annoy neo*

~Magical
-Joel-
hehe, that's pretty few roosters there aware.gif
Uther
Wow, I wonder if someone at Jagex really went through all that math, and I wonder if that all is indeed correct...
Lmfao @ the picture with Jad killing roosters!
Donovan
QUOTE (Uther @ Feb 5 2009, 11:38 AM) *
Wow, I wonder if someone at Jagex really went through all that math, and I wonder if that all is indeed correct...
Lmfao @ the picture with Jad killing roosters!

Well they have to be paid for doing something... tongue.gif

I actually had time to read through this postbag, although I'm not that interested in the RS lores. smile.gif
Phoenix Rider
Whoa, that painted a rosy picture in my head. wink.gif 5,308 roosters to take out the damned thing.
Wiltingplant
Now then, all Jagex needs to do is:
  • Increase world sizes to around 6k
  • Introduce the pet chicken as a summoning option
  • Make the fight caves multi-user


I'm pretty sure tip.it or zybez will get the 5.3k people needed. And voila! The most epic Jad-killing video EVER.
Shmoe
7th post! tongue.gif

"Ridgeley
F.U.R.R.Y. Registered Charity No. 1337"

Wow, all that work to find out how many chickens it would take tongue.gif!

That picture look strange with that odd red bar.

This is one of the best ones yet ohmy.gif
william 1165
lols, Massacare to the Chickens Roosters! Very funny, I liked the letter to Ridgerly aswell! Very good postbag, lol
Muttmuttinthebutt
Lol that chicken thing was so random!
Defendol0gy
[font="Comic Sans MS"][/font]sweet chicken thing tongue2.gif
would love to see a rooster wearing a fire cape yay.gif hysterical.gif
iSummon
Well that was freankin funny! laugh.gif
I laughed so hard I couldn't breath thin I laughed at my self for not being able to breath!
El Geras
Wow..
Now, I want a Rooster familiar =p
Userz
cool the Jad vs the chicken sounds intresting
Randomness
I almost fell off my chair laughing about chickens killing jad tongue.gif
5,308 chickens needed to kill jad
What a fowl sight that must've been ohmy.gif
Xerox
Lmao, that was flipping brilliant. That was the only postbag that made me laugh so far. I'm going to try feeding Ridgely or w/e a piece of cheese..
Zachorayi
I thought the number was more like 65,000 due to the .7% chance of hitting the jad per chicken.

And the rumors about new hp bars are approved of by me. The new ones look much more hd-ish.
As
Hehe, gave me a bit of a giggle smile.gif

As780
Mohorak
QUOTE (Zachorayi @ Feb 5 2009, 09:21 PM) *
And the rumors about new hp bars are approved of by me. The new ones look much more hd-ish.


New hp bar is exactly what I was thinking as I looked at that picture. I really hope that it comes out! Add my approval to the list.
lloonnee2
Going down under a flurry of feathers... Poor Jad...

On the other hand, the new hp bar looks more 3d-ish
696lewa
lol thats hlarious! xd.gif laughroll.gif hysterical.gif
jagex probly just programed a bunch of roosters in to a fight cave on like a beta testing world or something

slightly off topic: once i found a clockwork mouse on the ground in the fightcaves, i was like doubt.gif
kingrays2
i loved the jad and chicken picture
Darth KJ
Jad must be deeply embarrassed aware.gif

~Darth santa.gif
Apollo-Bringer of Wisdom
QUOTE (Darth KJ @ Feb 7 2009, 04:04 PM) *
Jad must be deeply embarrassed aware.gif

~Darth santa.gif

lol
i only wish that there was some speculation to be had, like almost every other postbag
this ones funny though!!
Ur Pk3d Up
lol chickens fail hard when they go in boom they'll die of the heat lol
Big Dave
Good Postbag!

Well Done to who ever sat and did *ALL* thoses calculations!! Must have taken a while!!

oh and I saw this on a thead on the RS forums

Shaneekwa27


05-Feb-2009 16:48:23
Last edited on 05-Feb-2009 18:42:39 by Shaneekwa27
Please, oh PLEASE post the video of the roosters killing Jad. Put it on your YouTube channel or something, I personally would absolutely LOVE to see that.

If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, read the last section in this month's postbag.

Perhaps if this one gets posted, it could be a precursor to posting videos of other unlikely RS fights, like an all out brawl between the GWD bosses, or a KBD vs KQ deathmatch, stuff like that. Now THAT would be entertainment!


and a reply to it....

Mod Jon H
Jagex Mod


05-Feb-2009 17:28:34
No promises, but I've made some enquiries about this and it's looking good. wink.gif

-Mod Jon H

QFC - 15-16-9-58343933

bryan1122333
ROFL u need almost 6k chicken to win all waves and kill jad for that cape
but cape is o use for the chicken so they just buy some onxy to craft a stone of ring
so the anger flecher won't killl them!!


Hahahahaha laugh.gif
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