Sparhawke
Feb 27 2009, 07:51 AM
We have temporarily closed the entrances to the Bounty Hunter craters while we fix a few problems with it. Broadly speaking, we are looking to fix the following issues:
- The level-matching system wasn’t working at all well, with players often ending up in unfair battles they were unlikely to win.
- With the launch of PvP worlds, Bounty Hunter suddenly became less populated, which meant the bounty mechanic stopped working properly. We still love the idea of a bounty mechanic with players being given targets, but we think it can be done so much better, especially given what we have now learnt from PvP worlds.
- Real-world trading was occurring at quieter times of the day.
Don’t worry, Bounty Hunter isn’t disappearing forever - we’re just disabling it while we fix the problems. Bounty Hunter will be back.

We do not intend to reset the hiscores tables associated with the minigame, and will make sure that everyone’s hard work on those hiscores is not lost.
You will still be able to use the Bounty Hunter bank and the games necklace teleport to the area.
Mod Mark
Lead Designer - RuneScape
Loops
Feb 27 2009, 07:53 AM
I don't even go there...so woot =p
fireskull
Feb 27 2009, 07:58 AM
Second reply, woot looks ok, don' tuse it much anyway though.
Aliath
Feb 27 2009, 08:16 AM
I don't even see the point of this anymore. Bounty Hunter was meant to replace the Wilderness, and it was a substitute to PvP. Now that we have the PvP worlds, bounty hunter is pretty much useless.
sUkRaM
Feb 27 2009, 09:03 AM
i don't even go there, so whatever???
i like PVP 2!!!!
dei wei
Feb 27 2009, 10:11 AM
by the looks of it the craters might get smaller to combat rwt but i don't use them anyway so it doesn't bother me
Cal
Feb 27 2009, 10:40 AM
"With the launch of PvP worlds, Bounty Hunter suddenly became less populated"
Is that saying they're surprised by it
Jump
Feb 27 2009, 10:42 AM
QUOTE (-Jake- @ Feb 27 2009, 08:16 AM)

I don't even see the point of this anymore. Bounty Hunter was meant to replace the Wilderness, and it was a substitute to PvP. Now that we have the PvP worlds, bounty hunter is pretty much useless.
Your completely wrong, it wasn't ment to be a solution. It was ment to be step one in the anti rwt minigame collection.
littleren13
Feb 27 2009, 11:11 AM
QUOTE (-Jake- @ Feb 27 2009, 06:16 AM)

I don't even see the point of this anymore. Bounty Hunter was meant to replace the Wilderness, and it was a substitute to PvP. Now that we have the PvP worlds, bounty hunter is pretty much useless.
O,o
my pures that i have do pvp, but i ALWAYS play bounty hunter once i get around 55 cb because its so much better
and this reworking to fix the RWTing is long awaited and much appreciated lol
BunnyofDoom
Feb 27 2009, 12:05 PM
Ah...don't go to BH anymore...oh well, doesn't cause any stress for me!
Easl
Feb 27 2009, 12:53 PM
Sounds good, I'm going to leave my pker alone to see if they sort out levels...
Jump
Feb 27 2009, 12:55 PM
I'm hoping they make more craters as they're a tad to big atm.
Spectre
Feb 27 2009, 12:56 PM
Meh, not pleased with this at all to be honest, was training a strength pure up to 54 combat with like 72 str and 25 pray was hoping for some fun...
Well I'm sure it will be back...
error404
Feb 27 2009, 12:58 PM
i dont go there so nothing to worry about
hmmm i think that this is really a suprise
QUOTE
With the launch of PvP worlds, Bounty Hunter suddenly became less populated
fishy huh
QUOTE
Real-world trading was occurring at quieter times of the day
and when is that?
QUOTE
We still love the idea of a bounty mechanic with players being given targets
wht about us do we like it?
Poke
Feb 27 2009, 01:28 PM
QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Feb 27 2009, 12:51 PM)

Bounty Hunter isn’t disappearing forever
What a shame.
It seems Jagex are oblivious to how much people hate things like this.
Ambo100
Feb 27 2009, 02:50 PM
I don't care, I have never liked Bounty Hunter.
Lukepwnage
Feb 27 2009, 03:36 PM
QUOTE (Ambo100 @ Feb 27 2009, 02:50 PM)

I don't care, I have never liked Bounty Hunter.
Hahaha, same for me. I just never really enjoyed playing it!
Motlycrue
Feb 27 2009, 03:42 PM
they should make it when you first enter you can't just run out after they attacked someone like the dbowers.
_Ej
Feb 27 2009, 03:57 PM
Anything else on RuneScape>PKing.
They should stop making PvP updates and focus on the true players, who don't moan when Jagex update something.
John_And_Edward
Feb 27 2009, 04:30 PM
I never really liked Bounty Hunting. Or Pking in general.

I think the level range in the crater should be lowered near PvP world ranges. I believe it's possible for a level 60 to fight a level 100.
Ej, not all pkers are like that. Thats just a stereotypical image of a Pker now. But PvP updates should be quite rare.
Blasphemy
Feb 27 2009, 04:33 PM
Has anyone else noticed all the technical difficulties lately?
They should make the craters at 10 level intervals.
Maybe I will actually be able to win a fight now

As780
Emanick
Feb 27 2009, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (Poke @ Feb 27 2009, 01:28 PM)

QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Feb 27 2009, 12:51 PM)

Bounty Hunter isn’t disappearing forever
What a shame.
It seems Jagex are oblivious to how much people hate things like this.
What harm did Bounty Hunter ever do you?!
Anyway, good job, Jagex. By all means sort out Bounty Hunter. I was expecting rants on this thread, but oddly enough, I haven't seen any.
On to the official forums. 
Emo_Nemo
Feb 27 2009, 05:47 PM
QUOTE (Poke @ Feb 27 2009, 01:28 PM)

QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Feb 27 2009, 12:51 PM)

Bounty Hunter isn’t disappearing forever
What a shame.
It seems Jagex are oblivious to how much people hate things like this.
It may of not occurred to you but bh is more profitable then pvp worlds ever will be
Cake
Feb 27 2009, 05:55 PM
I'm not surprised with the 'temporary closure of BH' and I think it's just pointless, only substitute for wilderness. I went there first time and dead, promised not to go there any time for ever again.
Warrior Zynk
Feb 27 2009, 06:01 PM
They better fix real world trading, I have been seeing Mining pures mine runite then transfer it to another account.

Other than that, Bounty Hunter is a very prowling game, unlike the very lawless player-verse-player worlds are.
GO JaGEx!

atpb789654
Feb 27 2009, 06:11 PM
Glad I don't play this minigame! I wonder why Runescape is sudenly putting so many smilies in there news posts...
Leo Crimson
Feb 27 2009, 06:21 PM
At least this won't affect me too much; never played BH much.
Ur Pk3d Up
Feb 27 2009, 08:52 PM
Give Us Wildy!
Hybrid
Feb 27 2009, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (Combat @ Feb 27 2009, 01:30 PM)

I never really liked Bounty Hunting. Or Pking in general.

I think the level range in the crater should be lowered near PvP world ranges. I believe it's possible for a level 60 to fight a level 100.
Ej, not all pkers are like that. Thats just a stereotypical image of a Pker now. But PvP updates should be quite rare.
Speak the truth!
I will pwn everyone within my level now! 
chaos9999
Feb 27 2009, 09:48 PM
I never played Bounty Hunter, but I don't want it gone. Then I won't have a bank in F2P wilderness.
Jump
Feb 28 2009, 01:10 AM
QUOTE (Cake @ Feb 27 2009, 05:55 PM)

I'm not surprised with the 'temporary closure of BH' and I think it's just pointless, only substitute for wilderness. I went there first time and dead, promised not to go there any time for ever again.
Its not the only substitute. Do you know what PvP worlds are?!!?
QUOTE (Ur Pk3d Up @ Feb 27 2009, 08:52 PM)

Give Us Wildy!
No you.
QUOTE (chaos9999)
I never played Bounty Hunter, but I don't want it gone. Then I won't have a bank in F2P wilderness.
The bank is still there and will remain.
Ruin
Feb 28 2009, 01:27 AM
i actually dont care. for pvp we had bounty hunter, pvp worlds, fog, soul wars, castle wars. ect ect. tons of pvp updates and people still arent happy =( we need some skill or quest updates now for the rest of us.
Analogy
Feb 28 2009, 02:01 AM
QUOTE (samasa @ Feb 28 2009, 04:27 PM)

i actually dont care. for pvp we had bounty hunter, pvp worlds, fog, soul wars, castle wars. ect ect. tons of pvp updates and people still arent happy =( we need some skill or quest updates now for the rest of us.
i agree. there is too much pvp content to try an placate the pker whiners (yes, i know who you are

) pk, imo, is for ppl with no patience
also...
PK FAILStheres my 2 cents worth
Jump
Mar 1 2009, 01:15 AM
The worst part is they're still complaining, though after this and mobilizing armies I bet it'll go back to the norm.
QUOTE (Combat @ Feb 27 2009, 09:30 PM)

I never really liked Bounty Hunting. Or Pking in general.

I think the level range in the crater should be lowered near PvP world ranges. I believe it's possible for a level 60 to fight a level 100.
Ej, not all pkers are like that. Thats just a stereotypical image of a Pker now. But PvP updates should be quite rare.
I'm moaning more about the amount of PvP updates.
Some of them:
FoG
Soul Wars
PvP worlds
Clan Wars
BH (okay not a recent one but was made in place of the old wild)
Stealing creation.
Other combat Mini games already in place:
Castle Wars
Barbarian Assault
Pest Control
Duel Arena (Also got an update)
See how much choice they have?
Ming Der
Mar 1 2009, 07:54 AM
Pfft, what idiots this has been going on since the start of it, and they only take action now?
This also effects true pkers who pk fair and don't RWT.
Shame on Jagex, this is as stupid as their thoughts on not to rollback as soon as possible for the crash updates, people lost millions.
Also Ej_,
There are only two pvp minigames where you get loot.
Castlewars needs a better system, soul wars is taking it over.
-Ming
Defendol0gy
Mar 1 2009, 01:38 PM
lol how did rwting occur in bh?
Natt39
Mar 1 2009, 02:49 PM
QUOTE (Ej_ @ Feb 27 2009, 08:57 PM)

Anything else on RuneScape>PKing.
They should stop making PvP updates and focus on the true players, who don't moan when Jagex update something.
Could you imagine if they did....
180 page post on the official forums about how Jagex screwed them over again.... Dispite Pking being a very small aspect of the game...
QUOTE
how did rwting occur in bh?

I don't think it was on the loot tables, I think you act got stuff from the losing player....
mail12345100
Mar 1 2009, 03:34 PM
Ok when this post came out I thought 'well they'll open again tomorrow' but they've been closed for four days now. And

about RWT? It didn't happen that much anyway, so what the ****

do they think they're doing putting a lot of players favourite passtime under a box?

?
QUOTE (samasa @ Feb 28 2009, 02:27 AM)

i actually dont care. for pvp we had bounty hunter, pvp worlds, fog, soul wars, castle wars. ect ect. tons of pvp updates and people still arent happy =( we need some skill or quest updates now for the rest of us.
Agreed.
Natt39
Mar 1 2009, 03:48 PM
QUOTE (mail12345100 @ Mar 1 2009, 08:34 PM)

Ok when this post came out I thought 'well they'll open again tomorrow' but they've been closed for four days now. And

about RWT? It didn't happen that much anyway, so what the ****

do they think they're doing putting a lot of players favourite passtime under a box?

?
You kinda proved my point....
And RWT was ruining jagex.... something had to be done or like they have said a million times they wouldn't be around today and lets face it, it would have to happen alot for them to take such drastic action as they did, have and will continue to do.....
Anyway these things take time.... be patient.
Mr E
Mar 1 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (samasa @ Feb 28 2009, 01:27 AM)

i actually dont care. for pvp we had bounty hunter, pvp worlds, fog, soul wars, castle wars. ect ect. tons of pvp updates and people still arent happy =( we need some skill or quest updates now for the rest of us.
You forgot Clan Wars.
Kginting8
Mar 1 2009, 10:00 PM
If you guys haven't noticed, BH > PVP. PVP is filled with d claw pjers and such. Same with BH, although BH has something PVP doesn't. It's called LOOT.
In pvp, you kill a person skulled, in full dharok. What do you get? An obby cape, d scim, 6 salmon. That's it.
In bh, when you kill a dharoker skulled, you get the entire dharok set.
You might like PVP, but Bh loots will always be more profitable than PVP.
And don't give me any of that BS saying "we can always do the 25k trick" or "my friend got a DFH from killing a lvl 103" cuz all of that is BS. Try doing that 2 times in a row. You'll find out that it'll take over 3 months. And I'm willing to bet that BH will make more than 21m in 3 months, if you're a good pker. And good pkers are people who risk alot, such as ahrims/karils/dragon claws, not those people in rune and d scimms. Remember, in PVP, you get the same loot as doing the 25k trick and actually risking something just to kill another dharoker. Same loot, except the 1st option gives you no risk, where the 2nd option makes you risk alot.
And yes they do need to fix BH, like the target and such, but once they nerf BH drops, BH is gone for good really. Some people don't understand that people BH because it gives more money/gives better loot than PVP ever will.
And for you people wandering wth how do you RWT in BH, it's simple. Grab infinity run (og'loog pools), go to f2p, buy a sara set, have both of you go to the center of BH, you kill him, grab the loot, then when people atk you for the 3 min pen, you run like a mofo. With inf run, you'll keep on running and tey'll keep on walking so they won't be able to kill you.
This is good, and bad. Most people who do this are actually people who split drops from GWD, especially bandos. Sometimes I like to dou bandos with a friend, but since it's dou, we always get crashed by a team of lvl 100s in whips. That's why we go to non-ls, kill him there, and if there's a hilt/plate/tasset (idc about boots, it's only like 200k split L), then we go split it in BH. Douing in ls world=crashed.
My opinion.
storm2007
Mar 2 2009, 12:00 AM
if they want to make bh better i dont see why people are complaining..
if they dont change the drop but change anything or everything else i'm good with it!
kirby145
Mar 2 2009, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (Kginting8 @ Mar 1 2009, 08:00 PM)

If you guys haven't noticed, BH > PVP. PVP is filled with d claw pjers and such. Same with BH, although BH has something PVP doesn't. It's called LOOT.
In pvp, you kill a person skulled, in full dharok. What do you get? An obby cape, d scim, 6 salmon. That's it.
In bh, when you kill a dharoker skulled, you get the entire dharok set.
You might like PVP, but Bh loots will always be more profitable than PVP.
And don't give me any of that BS saying "we can always do the 25k trick" or "my friend got a DFH from killing a lvl 103" cuz all of that is BS. Try doing that 2 times in a row. You'll find out that it'll take over 3 months. And I'm willing to bet that BH will make more than 21m in 3 months, if you're a good pker. And good pkers are people who risk alot, such as ahrims/karils/dragon claws, not those people in rune and d scimms. Remember, in PVP, you get the same loot as doing the 25k trick and actually risking something just to kill another dharoker. Same loot, except the 1st option gives you no risk, where the 2nd option makes you risk alot.
And yes they do need to fix BH, like the target and such, but once they nerf BH drops, BH is gone for good really. Some people don't understand that people BH because it gives more money/gives better loot than PVP ever will.
And for you people wandering wth how do you RWT in BH, it's simple. Grab infinity run (og'loog pools), go to f2p, buy a sara set, have both of you go to the center of BH, you kill him, grab the loot, then when people atk you for the 3 min pen, you run like a mofo. With inf run, you'll keep on running and tey'll keep on walking so they won't be able to kill you.
This is good, and bad. Most people who do this are actually people who split drops from GWD, especially bandos. Sometimes I like to dou bandos with a friend, but since it's dou, we always get crashed by a team of lvl 100s in whips. That's why we go to non-ls, kill him there, and if there's a hilt/plate/tasset (idc about boots, it's only like 200k split L), then we go split it in BH. Douing in ls world=crashed.
My opinion.
Very well thought out. But the current BH really annoys me, how you get teamed up on when it acts like some sort of single combat game.
Spirit Shield
Mar 2 2009, 11:30 AM
i actually hate bounty hunter and new wildy(war is lost but hey) so it dosen't bother me except im thinking that more less popular minigames like fist of guthix might crash>.<(goth fairy enjoyes fist of guthixx because it has the mighty name guthix in it!)it beta not or im R.S SPAMMING ON MY OWN CLAN!!!!

MUHAHAHAHAHAH!
~GOTH FAIRY
Magey
Mar 2 2009, 12:09 PM
Pking>Everything else on Runescape.
You guys can fish/farm all you want. It's not gonna save you once you step into the wildy.
Natt39
Mar 2 2009, 12:38 PM
QUOTE (Magey @ Mar 2 2009, 05:09 PM)

Pking>Everything else on Runescape.
You guys can fish/farm all you want. It's not gonna save you once you step into the wildy.
There was a reason it was only 25% of the world that you could pk in..... I don't that it was ever intended to be a HUGE part of the game nor is it now...
imdag2
Mar 3 2009, 06:17 AM
tbh bounty hunter was jus a rip of wildy
curly
Mar 3 2009, 03:36 PM
QUOTE (littleren13 @ Feb 27 2009, 12:11 PM)

QUOTE (-Jake- @ Feb 27 2009, 06:16 AM)

I don't even see the point of this anymore. Bounty Hunter was meant to replace the Wilderness, and it was a substitute to PvP. Now that we have the PvP worlds, bounty hunter is pretty much useless.
O,o
my pures that i have do pvp, but i ALWAYS play bounty hunter once i get around 55 cb because its so much better
and this reworking to fix the RWTing is long awaited and much appreciated lol
Let me guess. Your one of the idiot little kids that run around saying OMG RWT even when people are sharing drops with friends that they didnt/couldnt get through LS.
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