Today, we’ve released a development diary about the upcoming ‘rest’ feature. Given that we’ve already released an...accidental teaser, we thought we’d give you some more insight into the design process for this small but useful feature, which I hope you’ll all end up using.
To read this diary, click here.
Mod Chihiro
Senior Technical Developer, RuneScape Content
To read this diary, click here.
Mod Chihiro
Senior Technical Developer, RuneScape Content
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Hiya,
Thanks for your interest! Just a quick note about agility. We definitely wont be nerfing agility. If anything agility will be more useful. But I can't go into any more detail, as the diary says, we're still tweaking with the balancing of this system.
And yes, you will be able to just sit and listen to the musicians, and have a chat. One thing I liked about the musicians idea was that those players who wanted to use them just as a game mechanic to restore their runenergy will be able to do so, but they could also be used as a place to meet and chat and add a bit of flavour to the areas they are in.
mod_chihiro
Thanks for your interest! Just a quick note about agility. We definitely wont be nerfing agility. If anything agility will be more useful. But I can't go into any more detail, as the diary says, we're still tweaking with the balancing of this system.
And yes, you will be able to just sit and listen to the musicians, and have a chat. One thing I liked about the musicians idea was that those players who wanted to use them just as a game mechanic to restore their runenergy will be able to do so, but they could also be used as a place to meet and chat and add a bit of flavour to the areas they are in.
mod_chihiro
King Runite1
"PS: We aren't talking about the nerfing of shortcuts, but the run rate speed increase that Agility provides."
So was I
Also, you will be able to rest anywhere, its just that near musicians the effect will be better.
"PS: We aren't talking about the nerfing of shortcuts, but the run rate speed increase that Agility provides."
So was I
Also, you will be able to rest anywhere, its just that near musicians the effect will be better.
Ki11a Pk3r
*You* may not need those things, but many players complain about the speed at which their runenergy restores, this project is meant to help with that.
As I have said already, you *will be able to rest anywhere*, even on PvP worlds. You may not *want* to, since you have to be stationary to rest, and you will still be vulnerable to attack. In the middle of combat, pots will still be the quickest and easiest way to restore your runenergy, but resting costs no money, nor does it take any inventory space. Whether it makes strategical sense to rest during combat I'm sure you guys will work out soon enough.
This is not meant as combat update, but rather a general update to allow all players to move around the world more speedily at no cost. Nothing more.
*You* may not need those things, but many players complain about the speed at which their runenergy restores, this project is meant to help with that.
As I have said already, you *will be able to rest anywhere*, even on PvP worlds. You may not *want* to, since you have to be stationary to rest, and you will still be vulnerable to attack. In the middle of combat, pots will still be the quickest and easiest way to restore your runenergy, but resting costs no money, nor does it take any inventory space. Whether it makes strategical sense to rest during combat I'm sure you guys will work out soon enough.
This is not meant as combat update, but rather a general update to allow all players to move around the world more speedily at no cost. Nothing more.
Ki11a Pk3r
Please carefully read the dev diary and the posts I've made before making incorrect assumptions about what the rest system is.
The system is a lot closer to what you'd like than you seem to have realised.
You *will* be able to rest anywhere, not just next to musicians.
The restore rate *will* be based on your agility.
The musicians will simply restore at a better rate than anywhere else.
Please carefully read the dev diary and the posts I've made before making incorrect assumptions about what the rest system is.
The system is a lot closer to what you'd like than you seem to have realised.
You *will* be able to rest anywhere, not just next to musicians.
The restore rate *will* be based on your agility.
The musicians will simply restore at a better rate than anywhere else.
Tonanti1
"I can also see it's going to be very difficult to balance it."
Indeed, because agility is a factor in all of this, and that while you are resting, you are not moving towards your destination, the calculations for this have turned out to be quite complicated.
We're still working on this now, but the aim is to make run-resting from point to point more efficient than run-walking, for resting near a musician more efficient than both of them, *and* for all of this to scale nicely with agility levels, whilst maintaining a good benefit for lower level or F2P players who have little or no agility.
It's given our balancer a lot to think about!
And yes, this will be available on F2P.
mod_chihiro
"I can also see it's going to be very difficult to balance it."
Indeed, because agility is a factor in all of this, and that while you are resting, you are not moving towards your destination, the calculations for this have turned out to be quite complicated.
We're still working on this now, but the aim is to make run-resting from point to point more efficient than run-walking, for resting near a musician more efficient than both of them, *and* for all of this to scale nicely with agility levels, whilst maintaining a good benefit for lower level or F2P players who have little or no agility.
It's given our balancer a lot to think about!
And yes, this will be available on F2P.
mod_chihiro
Japhoenix I disagree with you, actually.
If a musician NPC can play music that will increase nearby players runenergy restore rate, why couldn't other types of music do other things? If a player could also do this, would that not be part of a potential set of music effects?
Anyway, this is completely speculative and I should make this very clear:
Rest Musicians are NOT a precursor or teaser for a new music skill.
They simply do not exclude the possibility.
Chihiro
If a musician NPC can play music that will increase nearby players runenergy restore rate, why couldn't other types of music do other things? If a player could also do this, would that not be part of a potential set of music effects?
Anyway, this is completely speculative and I should make this very clear:
Rest Musicians are NOT a precursor or teaser for a new music skill.
They simply do not exclude the possibility.
Chihiro
Mat Amr
"Will there be some music at the wilderness? A ghost or a skull?"
There might be
mod_chihiro
"Will there be some music at the wilderness? A ghost or a skull?"
There might be
mod_chihiro
Jordan332
"we will be able to rest anywhere"
This is true!
"and sit on benches/furniture "
No this is not true.
The original idea was to use benches to rest on, but benches would not have worked for technical reasons. So you will be able to sit near musicians and get an even better runenergy restore rate.
mod_chihiro
"we will be able to rest anywhere"
This is true!
"and sit on benches/furniture "
No this is not true.
The original idea was to use benches to rest on, but benches would not have worked for technical reasons. So you will be able to sit near musicians and get an even better runenergy restore rate.
mod_chihiro
But Mod Chihiro...
Will one of the buskers be named Rick Gastley?
Will the cult reference traditions of Jagex continue on with many humorous music artist references? Or will our buskers be original characters?
~ MMH ~
(Hey J-Mods are allowed to ask other J-Mods questions too!
)
Will one of the buskers be named Rick Gastley?
Will the cult reference traditions of Jagex continue on with many humorous music artist references? Or will our buskers be original characters?
~ MMH ~
(Hey J-Mods are allowed to ask other J-Mods questions too!
) Mark, you are OBSESSED! 
~Mod Emilee
~Mod Emilee
Roivainen
"Finally I will be able to shout ''You spoony bard'' with an actual bard to shout at."
lol.
"However:
Will there be areas that wont allow person to rest?"
As few as possible: the one notable exception is the Fist of Guthix Arena, since the run energy changes that happen in different parts of that arena are a core game mechanic and allowing resting would break the game.
There may be others, if we come across areas that cause major problems, but I hope not. If you can think of anywhere that might then let me know
"Will damage from poison/disease cancel resting? "
You wont be able to rest when you're poisoned. If you get attacked at all while you are resting you will stop resting.
mod_chihiro
"Finally I will be able to shout ''You spoony bard'' with an actual bard to shout at."
lol.
"However:
Will there be areas that wont allow person to rest?"
As few as possible: the one notable exception is the Fist of Guthix Arena, since the run energy changes that happen in different parts of that arena are a core game mechanic and allowing resting would break the game.
There may be others, if we come across areas that cause major problems, but I hope not. If you can think of anywhere that might then let me know
"Will damage from poison/disease cancel resting? "
You wont be able to rest when you're poisoned. If you get attacked at all while you are resting you will stop resting.
mod_chihiro
One day I will see Rick Gastley in game!
He will serve Rick Rolls and tell players "I'm never gonna give you up, let you down, run around and desert you!"
ONE DAY! *shakes fist*
~ MMH ~
He will serve Rick Rolls and tell players "I'm never gonna give you up, let you down, run around and desert you!"
ONE DAY! *shakes fist*
~ MMH ~
Groan
I have no intention of rickrolling our players. Well not in game anyway.
Man, I remember the Rick in question when we was just a pop star, not a weird internet meme game ... I didn't like him much then.
Back on topic,
There is a cultural reference hidden away in this update, but it is about as far from cheesy eighties pop as it is possible to be ...
mod_chihiro
I have no intention of rickrolling our players. Well not in game anyway.
Man, I remember the Rick in question when we was just a pop star, not a weird internet meme game ... I didn't like him much then.
Back on topic,
There is a cultural reference hidden away in this update, but it is about as far from cheesy eighties pop as it is possible to be ...
mod_chihiro
No worries Chihiro, I understand that not everybody enjoys Rick (80's Popstar or internet meme) as much as I do.
Nice to know there is some cult references in the Rest update somewhere.
Now you've got me wondering what it is...
~ MMH ~
Nice to know there is some cult references in the Rest update somewhere.
Now you've got me wondering what it is...
~ MMH ~
Thanks folks for your input, there are a couple of things you mentioned I'm going to double check, so keep your thoughts coming!
I'm afraid I have to go off and do some stuff, so I won't be posting again today, but I'll be keeping my eye on this thread, and probably post some more tomorrow.
Thanks
mod_chihiro
I'm afraid I have to go off and do some stuff, so I won't be posting again today, but I'll be keeping my eye on this thread, and probably post some more tomorrow.
Thanks
mod_chihiro
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I dont understand the need for this, but maybe the buskers will play some good music for once.
