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Today we’ve released a development diary for something a little different: versatile tools to help players make their own games.

As the project goes from the design stage into implementation, this diary talks about the goals of this unusual project, and the curious challenge of coming up with a clear design for something without limiting what it can do.

To read the diary, click here.

Mod Hew
RuneScape Content Developer


7th May 2009 - Tools for Games

There’s a slightly different update on the cards for the not-too-distant future. It won’t suit all of you, but, then, juggling all the different things RuneScape players like to do is always our biggest challenge. What it will do is make some little differences here and there, with new features that you can use in several ways that we’ve thought of...and hopefully a few we haven’t.

We know that to some of you, RuneScape is home to various pastimes that we didn’t really plan for you. Besides all of the quests, minigames and other features that the team has worked hard on over the years, Gielinor has plenty of room for you to organise scavenger hunts, races and all kinds of other activities, and we’ve seen that some of you like to do just that. Now, we’ve decided to set aside some time for a small update aimed at the players who come up with those activities.

I was asked to come up with some items to help out, some little trinkets for the freestyle gamers among you. It’s an interesting challenge: if this stuff is all about the things we didn’t design, how can I deliberately set out to develop it? If I over-design these objects they’ll be really good for whatever I had in mind, but give you much less freedom. That would completely ruin the idea of helping you with the gameplay that you want to make.

With that in mind I’m working on a range of simple objects, each of which does something a little useful. Most of the objects are pretty simple, some a bit more complicated, but all are versatile. Hopefully, you’ll look at each item and think: “I know what I could do with that!” Just as people in the real world make dice and don’t worry about what games people will use them for, we can provide some helpful tools for you to use however you want.

We thought long and hard about what to include, seeking suggestions from fan sites, the forums and Jagex staff. We had many great suggestions - far more than we could ever use - so we picked out a selection that were particularly suitable. The number of objects we’re going ahead with is relatively small, but the intention is that each of them has plenty of potential there for all kinds of things you might think of.

As you might have guessed, there will be dice; I’m a big fan of dice. You can keep the rolls to yourself, or you can send them to your clan and everyone will know the result was genuine. Other items will help you start races fairly, run votes of clan members and check that nobody is cheating at collection and scavenging games.

Involving clans and keeping things fair are two of the main things I’m keeping in mind while developing this project. We want these tools to be good for groups, and the best way we can do that is through the Clan Chat system. That way, the game remains yours and you can invite the people you’d like to play with. Fairness is important because once you have come up with rules for your events, I want you to have ways of knowing that they are being followed.

All of these player-driven activities are part of what games developers refer to as emergent gameplay. It’s a broad and interesting topic and I encourage you to hit the Web if you are interested. I’ll start a thread on the forums in case anyone has any thoughts they’d like to share.

Mod Hew
RuneScape Content Developer

Arianna
Must...avoid...temptation...of...making...reversal...joke...with...title....... tongue.gif

QUOTE
As you might have guessed, there will be dice; I’m a big fan of dice. You can keep the rolls to yourself, or you can send them to your clan and everyone will know the result was genuine.
OOOOOH! Roleplaying games within roleplaying games! Anyone up for D&D?
adlo619
w00t 2nd reply


i dont get it.whats all this about a dice??
Morte
@ Dani : only if I get to roll a gnome illusionist.
Gonza Man
Mehh it seems ok tongue.gif
Arianna
QUOTE (adlo619 @ May 7 2009, 04:49 PM) *
w00t 2nd reply


i dont get it.whats all this about a dice??

Apply them to a mirror while holding a plate saying "FRESH".
Sparhawke
I like it, might be taking a bit of working out but add bout 10 items all with rules about how they perform such as starters line with pistol, finishing lines, a football or baseball and bat....the posibilities go on and on smile.gif
Goggie
Hope this turns out well, looks like it has real potential to be a fun new Update. I look forward to seeing it implemented biggrin.gif
error404
i really don't get what is this all about
anyone care to explain
Emanick
QUOTE (error404 @ May 7 2009, 02:00 PM) *
i really don't get what is this all about
anyone care to explain


Jagex is making systems where we can organize our own games and events and design them however we want. (Probably not very extensively.) At least, that's what I make of it.
Sparhawke
QUOTE (Emanick @ May 7 2009, 07:40 PM) *
QUOTE (error404 @ May 7 2009, 02:00 PM) *
i really don't get what is this all about
anyone care to explain


Jagex is making systems where we can organize our own games and events and design them however we want. (Probably not very extensively.) At least, that's what I make of it.


Have you ever heard of those programming languages that allow you to build up complex games using simple building blocks?

It is very much like that, they will give us such simple tools like dice, starting pistols, boards, start and finishing lines, maybe balls and bats and other stuff.

All these objects will have specific laws that govern them for instance, dice have 6 possible outcomes and control various other elements of other things, all these elements will go together in order for people to make games within games within games...
games freak101
woot, more games within games (and who dosn't like that?) laugh.gif

QUOTE (Arianna @ May 7 2009, 11:44 AM) *
OOOOOH! Roleplaying games within roleplaying games! Anyone up for D&D?


i'll play if u get more ppl happy.gif
(and you might have to explain the rules, i forgot them)
(p.s. i might have double posted cause my post wasn't showing up so i posted it again but then i closed the window and came back and there my post was)
Dad
QUOTE (Arianna @ May 8 2009, 01:44 AM) *
Must...avoid...temptation...of...making...reversal...joke...with...title....... tongue.gif

QUOTE
As you might have guessed, there will be dice; I’m a big fan of dice. You can keep the rolls to yourself, or you can send them to your clan and everyone will know the result was genuine.
OOOOOH! Roleplaying games within roleplaying games! Anyone up for D&D?

What?


OMG JAGEX IS ALWAYS COPYING BLIZZARD!
little boy 1100
This sounds like it could be kind of useful but at the same time doesnt completly fit in a game, I hope they will give some more thought to this. Only thing that is GREAT that I see is that they look at all kinds of players (like they said they want to give pkers as much possibilities as skillers and so on)

EDIT: Couldnt help noticing BLIZZARD comment, no remember people suggest these kind of things a lot, so people rip off which makes runescape get it. Runescape is still super different from other MMORPG games.
Dad
I take it you didn't click the link.
Rurex
Saw the title+description and thought that they would be giving us the means to fashion brand new, epic games for ourselves! Think of all the wonderful possibilities! ohmy.gif
Then I read the thing and find out they're giving us a couple of cheap dice and a few other things. Meh. electrocute.gif
The Who?
Huh. This is sort of cool. I wouldn't really care to use it too much, but atleast they're doing something overthere in England.
Warrior Zynk
QUOTE
What?


OMG JAGEX IS ALWAYS COPYING BLIZZARD!


Gee, I wonder how real that is? blink.gif

Spoiler: Click to Toggle the Spoiler.

You should know the above statement was sarcasm. dry.gif


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saint_azbo
Hey this could be fun, but think of all the bank space ten or so items would take up unsure.gif

Ah well, I think it looks great and will be really fun and help people gel together on runescape and get on better. cool.gif cool.gif
Tree
Tools for fools cute.png

[Insert Mr. T here]
Gorgor96
This looks great! I can't wait until they come out biggrin.gif
Squiggle
Pinatas. Or anyone below lvl 10 should be used as pinatas.
Just my opinion.
Po22
Remember kids, gambling is good for you!

I want to go to RS Las Vegas. Get some cheap hookers, watch Cirque Du Solei and munch some Mort Myre Mushrooms. This will be good.
Emanick
QUOTE (Po22 @ May 10 2009, 01:37 PM) *
Remember kids, gambling is good for you!

I want to go to RS Las Vegas. Get some cheap hookers, watch Cirque Du Solei and munch some Mort Myre Mushrooms. This will be good.


I'd rather watch the Meiyerditch Lakers in my Crystal of Power. The mushrooms are good, though.

(Hey, this is fun!)
Aussie Pride
Very confusing but I'm sure more of the Diaries come out I will understand it, like many other lost, little noobs like me happy.gif
I hope we could play Russian Roulette tongue.gif
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