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Easl
PvP is a huge part of Runescape and is played competitively in PvP worlds. Some of these are PvP worlds while others are just the wilderness called Bounty Hunter worlds


Q: Why do people get 45 defense? Why not just 40? Would I get 45 defense for my F2P pker?

A: 45 Defense allows people to wear rune berserker shields, berserker helms and void robes. These give huge offensive bonuses to benefit the player.

Q: When\why should I get prayer?

A: This depends on your style of attack. As a rule of thumb follow these guidelines:

-Pure mages rarely benefit from prayer
-Pure archers should consider getting 26 prayer if using an expensive piece of equipment, it allows it to be protected with Protect Item and gain 10% range bonus with Eagle Eye
-Strength pures should consider getting 31 prayer at around 60-70 strength

Q: What prayer level should I get?

A: I'd recommend either

-26: Gives Protect Item and Hawk Eye
-31: Gives Protect Item and Superhuman strength
-34: Gives Incredible Reflexes which can be used against tanks
-43: Gives all the Protects which can be used to stop pile jumpers
-44: Gives Eagle Eye
-60/70: Gives access to Chivalry/Piety, these require Kings Ransom and as this gives defense exp should only be used on berserker pures

Q: Why don't pures defense?

A: Defense adds extra combat levels; by not getting defense you have the advantage over other players as you have higher strength/range/magic levels which heightens your offensive output.

Q: Why should I get 20 defense?

A: 20 defense gives many advantages; you can wield the prayer armour intiate, mystic robes and the slayer helm.

Q: What attack level should I get in f2p?

A: 40 attack allows you to wield rune, however corrupt dragon can be used at 60 attack and this allows you to hit the highest f2p hit, 37.

Q: What attack level should I get in P2P?

A: In p2p the recommended levels are 50/60/70/78 these enable you to wield:
The infamous Granite Maul
Dragon weapons
The Saradomin Sword and the Abbysal Whip
Vestas longsword and Statius warhammer

Q: How does protect item work?

A: Protect item enables you to keep the highest value item according to alchemy values. This means expensive weapons like the Abbysal Whip will not be protected compared to Dragon Longswords

Q: Is there anything that can help me plan my pure and to know what combat level he is once I am done with what I have planned?

A: The Zybez Combat Calculator

Q: At what level should I use a certain type of pure?


A: All pures can win at fights but the following pures are recommended:
Low levels: 20-35 Mage pures own the combat triangle in f2p while in members Obby maulers are very powerful
Middle levels: 35-60 Range pures are very powerful while granite maulers also pack a punch. Obby maulers still hold there own but against granite maulers can get outhit
Higher Levels: 60-80 Strength pures start to shine here however range tanks begin to develop good hits at this point
Maxed Levels: Once you have maxed combat, tribriding using all 3 combat forms to devastating effects

Q: What does "pj" mean?


A: Pjing means Pile Jumping, this is when you attack someone who has just finished a fight.

Q: What is tagging?

A: Tagging is fighting with a partner in a single combat zone

Q: Where are good areas to pk in BH and Pvp Worlds?

A: In BH outside edge Ville is good for one on ones; however the volcano bank and Fist of Guthix bank are popular
In PvP the Ge is very popular, Ardouge is very popular for mageing and Falador is very popular for 1 iteming

Q: What is "Safing"?

A: Safing is when you eat at health where you opponent can't pk. However more often it is an excuse for your opponent not killing you.

Q: I need some inspiration...Where can I find some?

Simple type in "RuneScape PvP" into YouTube for some good PvP videos. Also post questions and kills on this forum

Q: What is 'barraging'?

A: Barraging is using the barrage spells in the ancient magic’s spellbook.

Q: How do I get a target in BH?

A: To get a target in BH simple stand in a dangerous area on a BH world. After 30 minutes you can get a target, after 1 hour your chance increases. The lighter the red box is in the top right corner the more likely a target is

Q: How do I gain Drop Potential?

A: To get drop potential simply risk 25k in an f2p world or 75k on a members world. To see if you are risking check the items on death screen
You can also get potential by dieing with 25k risked on you

Q: What is 26king?

A: 26king is killing other people with 26k on trying to get good drops. This is used to get drops after gathering potential without the danger of pking.

Q: Do I lose potential when I die?

A: No, you gain potential

Q: Does my drop potential reset when entering a save zone?


A: No

Q: Does it reset when logging out?

A: No

Q: How long does it take to get a decent drop potential?

A: Theres no way of knowing, but most people reccomend at least 2 hours to make 3 kills worthwhile, mroe if it was not generated in a hotzone

Q: Can I put on protect item just before I die to protect an item worth 80k and still get potential for the time I spend with protect item off?


A: Yes, but please protect it if you get attacked. However you need to be able to reskull every 20 minutes so this isn't reccomended, easier to carry 75k risk in small items or junk and just teleport.

Q: What is honour or no-honour pking?
A: This is a tricky subject, honour pking is usually pking without a teleport or means of escape. If someone asks you to "Dm" or Deathmatch it means that niether of you will be allowed to run. However it is reccomended to only do these with friends as not all the community is honourable.

The following things are considered "dis-honounorable":
-Pile Jumping, attack someone halfway through a fight or jsut as they finish a fight
-Rushing, not giving people tiem to prepare for a fight
-Luring, luring people into deeper or multiway parts of the wilderness to be killed
-Safing, eating at higher health to stop being pked

However, all these tatics help you win. So its your choice.
Pricey
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QUOTE (easl @ May 31 2009, 05:23 PM) *
PvP is a huge part of Runescape and is played competitivly in PvP worlds. Some of these are PvP worlds whiel others are just the widerness called Bounty Hunter worlds


Q: Why do people get 45 defence? Why not just 40? Whould I get 45 defence for my F2P pker?

A: 45 Defence allows people to wear rune beserker shields, beserker helms and void robes. These give huge offensive bonuses to benefit the player.

Q: When\why should I get prayer?

A: This depends on yuor style of attack. As a rule of thumb follow these guidelines:

-Pure mages rarely benefit from prayer
-Pure archers should consider getting 26 prayer if useing an expensive piece of equipment, it allows it to be protected with Protect Item and gain 10% range bonus with Eagle Eye
-Strength pures should consider getting 31 prayer at around 60-70 strength

Q: What prayer level should I get?

A: I'd recomend either

-26: Gives Protect Item and Hawk Eye
-31: Gives Protect Item and Superhuman strength
-34: Gives Incredible Reflexes which can be used against tanks
-43: Gives all the Protects which can be used to stop pile jumpers
-44: Gives Ealge Eye
-52: Gives acsess to Smite to be used agaisnt 1 itemers
-60/70: Gives acsess to Chivalry/Piety, these require Kings Ransom and as this gives defence exp should only be used on beserker pures

Q: Why do pures not get defence?

A: Defence adds extra combat levels, by not getting defence you have the advantage over other players as you have higher strength/range/magic levels which hieghtens your offensive output.

Q: Why should I get 20 defence?

A: 20 defence gives many advantages, you can wield the prayer armour intiate, mystic robes and the slayer helm.

Q: What attack level should I get in f2p?

A: 40 attack allows you to wield rune, however corupt dragon can be used at 60 attack and this allows you to hit the highest f2p hit, 36.

Q: What attack level should I get in P2P?

A: In p2p the reccomended levels are 50/60/70/78 these enable you to weild:
The infamous Granite Maul
Dragon weapons
The Saradomin Sword and the Abbysal Whip
Vestas longsword and Statius warhammer

Q: How does protect item work?

A: Protect item enables you to keep the highest value item according to alchemy values. This means expensive weapons like the Abbysal Whip will not be protected compared to Dragon Longswords

Q: Is there anything that can help me plan my pure and to know what combat level he is once I am done with what I have planned?

A: The Zybez Combat Calculator

Q: At what level should I use a certain type of pure

A: All pures can win at fights but the following pures are reccomended:
Low levels: 20-35 Mage pures own the combat triangle in f2p while in members Obby maulers are very powerful
Middle levels: 35-60 Range pures are very powerful while granite maulers also pack a punch. Obby maulers still hold there own but agaisnt granite maulers can get outhit
Higher Levels: 60-80 Strength pures start to shine here however range tanks begin to develop good hits at this point
Maxed Levels: Once you have maxed combat, tribriding using all 3 combat forms to devastating effects

Q: What does "pj" mean?

A: Pjing means Pile Jumping, this is when you attack someone who has jsut finished a fight.

Q: What is tagging?

A: Tagging is fighting with a partner in a single combat zone

Q: Where are good areas to pk in BH and Pvp Worlds

A: In BH outside edgeville is good for one on ones, however the volcaneo bank and Fist of Guthix bank are popular
In PvP the Ge is very popular, Ardouge is very popular for mageing and Falador is very popular for 1 iteming

Q: What is "Safing"

A: Safing is when you eat at health where you opponent can't pk. However more often it is an excuse for your opponent not killing you.

Q: I need some inspiration...Where can I find some?

Simple type in "Runescape PvP" into Youtube for some good PvP videos. Also post questions and kills on this forum

Q: What is 'barraging'?

A: Barraging is useing the barrage spells in the anceint magics spellbook.

Q: How do I get a target in BH?

A: To get a target in BH simple stand in a dangerous area on a BH world. After 30 minutes you can get a target, after 1 hour your chance increases. The lighter the red box is in the top right corner the more likely a target is

Q: How do I gain Drop Potential?

A: To get drop potential simply risk 25k in a f2p world or 75k on a members world. To see if you are risking check the items on death screen
You can also get potential by dieing with 25k risked on you

Q: What is 26king?

A: 26king is killing other people with 26k on trying to get good drops. This is used to get drops after gathering potential without the danger of pking.

Q: Do I lose potential when I die?


A: No, you gain potential


[Close]


Nice Easl, the other one was certainly become outdated. I noticed a few spelling mistakes which I'll check through. smile.gif

Here ya go, not 100% but nearly.
CODE
PvP is a huge part of Runescape and is played competitively in PvP worlds. Some of these are PvP worlds while others are just the wilderness called Bounty Hunter worlds


Q: Why do people get 45 defense? Why not just 40? Would I get 45 defense for my F2P pker?

A: 45 Defense allows people to wear rune berserker shields, berserker helms and void robes. These give huge offensive bonuses to benefit the player.

Q: When\why should I get prayer?

A: This depends on your style of attack. As a rule of thumb follow these guidelines:

-Pure mages rarely benefit from prayer
-Pure archers should consider getting 26 prayer if using an expensive piece of equipment, it allows it to be protected with Protect Item and gain 10% range bonus with Eagle Eye
-Strength pures should consider getting 31 prayer at around 60-70 strength

Q: What prayer level should I get?

A: I'd recommend either

-26: Gives Protect Item and Hawk Eye
-31: Gives Protect Item and Superhuman strength
-34: Gives Incredible Reflexes which can be used against tanks
-43: Gives all the Protects which can be used to stop pile jumpers
-44: Gives Eagle Eye
-52: Gives access to Smite to be used against 1 itemers
-60/70: Gives access to Chivalry/Piety, these require Kings Ransom and as this gives defense exp should only be used on berserker pures

Q: Why do pures not get defense?

A: Defense adds extra combat levels; by not getting defense you have the advantage over other players as you have higher strength/range/magic levels which heightens your offensive output.

Q: Why should I get 20 defense?

A: 20 defense gives many advantages; you can wield the prayer armour intiate, mystic robes and the slayer helm.

Q: What attack level should I get in f2p?

A: 40 attack allows you to wield rune, however corrupt dragon can be used at 60 attack and this allows you to hit the highest f2p hit, 36.

Q: What attack level should I get in P2P?

A: In p2p the recommended levels are 50/60/70/78 these enable you to wield:
The infamous Granite Maul
Dragon weapons
The Saradomin Sword and the Abbysal Whip
Vestas longsword and Statius warhammer

Q: How does protect item work?

A: Protect item enables you to keep the highest value item according to alchemy values. This means expensive weapons like the Abbysal Whip will not be protected compared to Dragon Longswords

Q: Is there anything that can help me plan my pure and to know what combat level he is once I am done with what I have planned?

A: The Zybez Combat Calculator

Q: At what level should I use a certain type of pure

A: All pures can win at fights but the following pures are recommended:
Low levels: 20-35 Mage pures own the combat triangle in f2p while in members Obby maulers are very powerful
Middle levels: 35-60 Range pures are very powerful while granite maulers also pack a punch. Obby maulers still hold there own but against granite maulers can get outhit
Higher Levels: 60-80 Strength pures start to shine here however range tanks begin to develop good hits at this point
Maxed Levels: Once you have maxed combat, tribriding using all 3 combat forms to devastating effects

Q: What does "pj" mean?

A: Pjing means Pile Jumping, this is when you attack someone who has just finished a fight.

Q: What is tagging?

A: Tagging is fighting with a partner in a single combat zone

Q: Where are good areas to pk in BH and Pvp Worlds?

A: In BH outside edge Ville is good for one on ones; however the volcano bank and Fist of Guthix bank are popular
In PvP the Ge is very popular, Ardouge is very popular for mageing and Falador is very popular for 1 iteming

Q: What is "Safing"?

A: Safing is when you eat at health where you opponent can't pk. However more often it is an excuse for your opponent not killing you.

Q: I need some inspiration...Where can I find some?

Simple type in "RuneScape PvP" into YouTube for some good PvP videos. Also post questions and kills on this forum

Q: What is 'barraging'?

A: Barraging is using the barrage spells in the ancient magic’s spellbook.

Q: How do I get a target in BH?

A: To get a target in BH simple stand in a dangerous area on a BH world. After 30 minutes you can get a target, after 1 hour your chance increases. The lighter the red box is in the top right corner the more likely a target is

Q: How do I gain Drop Potential?

A: To get drop potential simply risk 25k in an f2p world or 75k on a members world. To see if you are risking check the items on death screen
You can also get potential by dieing with 25k risked on you

Q: What is 26king?

A: 26king is killing other people with 26k on trying to get good drops. This is used to get drops after gathering potential without the danger of pking.

Q: Do I lose potential when I die?

A: No, you gain potential


Btw, you're gonna have to add [b] and stuff.

storm2007
QUOTE (Pricey @ May 31 2009, 10:26 AM) *
PvP is a huge part of Runescape and is played competitively in PvP worlds. Some of these are PvP worlds while others are just the wilderness called Bounty Hunter worlds


Q: Why do people get 45 defence? Why not just 40? Should I get 45 defence for my F2P pker?

Btw, you're gonna have to add [b] and stuff.


ok, i fixed some of the stuff, also, it's not would, it's Should
Easl
Thanks guys I updated it
Roy
QUOTE
Q: Why do pures not get defense?

A: Defense adds extra combat levels; by not getting defense you have the advantage over other players as you have higher strength/range/magic levels which heightens your offensive output.

wouldn't "Why don't pures get defence" sound better?

Also four more questions for you:
Does my drop potential reset when entering a save zone?
Does it reset when logging out?
How long does it take to get a decent drop potential?
Can I put on protect item just before I die to protect an item worth 80k and still get potential for the time I spend with protect item off?
Easl
Good ideas, adding
-Nacho Ninja-
Last question, "Reskull," not, "reskul".
Mano

Q: Can I put on protect item just before I die to protect an item worth 80k and still get potential for the time I spend with protect item off?

A: Yes, but please protect it if you get attacked. However you need to be able to reskull every 20 minutes so this isn't reccomended, easier to carry 75k risk in small items or junk and just teleport.

Actually it is recommended, considered the best way. And you take 4 items, the fourth being 80k and protected.



2 hours hotzone dp? No.
Spirit Shield
good guide, other one was written ages ago by a inactive user. will use for my new pure; carbon boost
Australian
So far it looks to be an exellent guide, hopefully it will be continually updated unlike the other one tongue.gif
Good job so far smile.gif
Easl
QUOTE (Australian @ Jun 8 2009, 03:21 AM) *
So far it looks to be an exellent guide, hopefully it will be continually updated unlike the other one tongue.gif
Good job so far smile.gif

I hope so, but it won't need much maintenance, I think Jagex have finished with pvp for now
Holl
Pjing isn't 'Pile Jumping' it's 'Player Jumping.' Your defenition is right though.
DenialOfService
QUOTE (Holl @ Jun 10 2009, 10:20 AM) *
Pjing isn't 'Pile Jumping' it's 'Player Jumping.' Your defenition is right though.

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Pjing
It's pile jumping

Player A finishes his match against Player B. Player A receives his loot and is suddenly attacked by Player C. Player C's goal is to kill player A, receiving the loot from both Player A and Player B. Player C is a pile jumper in this scenario.
Shine
QUOTE (Holl @ Jun 10 2009, 09:20 AM) *
Pjing isn't 'Pile Jumping' it's 'Player Jumping.' Your defenition is right though.


Technically its pilejacking but all 3 names convey the same idea
Spectre
Pures Combat Triangle - Personal Experience/idea

Maxed pure > Balanced Main
Strength pure > range pure
Range pure > Ranged Tank (kind of tricky this but I would say this is correct from experience as 99 range eats most def)
Ranged Tank > Strength Pure
Berserker Pure > Ranged Tank (this really depends on armour, if the tank is in torags its going to be really hard... but if hes in Dhide berserker is going to easily k0)
Balanced Main > Berserker Pure

Anyone agree?
Goggie
You can wear Slayer Helms at 10 Defence, not 20 thumbs.gif
Looks good, Easl smile.gif
Hybrid
For Pjing, among the pures and most PKers, it is referred to as Player Jumping, although all 3 terms are correct.

Source: Been playing since 'early 05/am a whaterver-pker myself. (Also my other friends that are high leveled pures agree with me that Pjing is known as Player Jumping.)
Shine
QUOTE (Spectre @ Jun 11 2009, 02:46 AM) *
Pures Combat Triangle - Personal Experience/idea

Maxed pure > Balanced Main
Strength pure > range pure
Range pure > Ranged Tank (kind of tricky this but I would say this is correct from experience as 99 range eats most def)
Ranged Tank > Strength Pure
Berserker Pure > Ranged Tank (this really depends on armour, if the tank is in torags its going to be really hard... but if hes in Dhide berserker is going to easily k0)
Balanced Main > Berserker Pure

Anyone agree?


At higher levels it's Zerker > Main > Range Tank > Zerker. But if the main has Piety they could be on par with zerkers..
ReVOLT
this is partly for me, since i just found out the basics of pk a year ago, but could you add what honor/no-honor pking is?
Easl
QUOTE (Dhru is Envoked @ Jun 12 2009, 08:00 PM) *
this is partly for me, since i just found out the basics of pk a year ago, but could you add what honor/no-honor pking is?

Sure, ading now
_Ej
QUOTE
Q: Is there anything that can help me plan my pure and to know what combat level he is once I am done with what I have planned?

A: The Zybez Combat Calculator


Isn'[t this advertising the enemy competition?

QUOTE
In BH outside edge Ville is good for one on ones; however the volcano bank and Fist of Guthix bank are popular
In PvP the Ge is very popular, Ardouge is very popular for mageing and Falador is very popular for 1 iteming

Minus the Space

QUOTE
The following things are considered "dis-honounorable":
-Pile Jumping, attack someone halfway through a fight or jsut as they finish a fight
-Rushing, not giving people tiem to prepare for a fight
-Luring, luring people into deeper or multiway parts of the wilderness to be killed
-Safing, eating at higher health to stop being pked


Just and Time.

'tis all I could see wink.gif
Extreme Steak
yay i think i am inspired to get my bounty up =D
Ice
QUOTE
A: Defense adds extra combat levels; by not getting defense you have the advantage over other players as you have higher strength/range/magic levels which heightens your offensive output.


Defence Heightins offencive output e.g 45 defence

Zerker helm.
Rune defender
Barrow gloves
all offensive so sorta re-state that really tongue.gif

Add in 1 / 11 / 13 / 16 pray all credible and decent

Maxed pures overated

Get rid of why 20 defence or add why 10 defence why 30 defence or somthing.

Maj0r Mike
QUOTE
Q: What prayer level should I get?

A: I'd recommend either

-26: Gives Protect Item and Hawk Eye
-31: Gives Protect Item and Superhuman strength
-34: Gives Incredible Reflexes which can be used against tanks
-43: Gives all the Protects which can be used to stop pile jumpers
-44: Gives Eagle Eye
-52: Gives access to Smite to be used against 1 itemers
-60/70: Gives access to Chivalry/Piety, these require Kings Ransom and as this gives defense exp should only be used on berserker pures


According to the Knights Waves Training Grounds guide here on Sal's, you need 65 defence for chivalry, and 70 defence for piety. This makes it no good for berserker pures.

EDIT: That's if you still update this thing. I was bored and had nothing to do.
Ur Pk3d Up
QUOTE
Q: Does my drop potential reset when entering a save zone?

A: No


Safe?

QUOTE
Q: How long does it take to get a decent drop potential?

A: Theres no way of knowing, but most people reccomend at least 2 hours to make 3 kills worthwhile, mroe if it was not generated in a hotzone


There's, recommended, More.

QUOTE
Q: What prayer level should I get?

-52: Gives access to Smite to be used against 1 itemers


+1 Item Worlds Or Lose Everything.

QUOTE
Q: What is honour or no-honour pking?
A: This is a tricky subject, honour pking is usually pking without a teleport or means of escape. If someone asks you to "Dm" or Deathmatch it means that niether of you will be allowed to run. However it is reccomended to only do these with friends as not all the community is honourable.

The following things are considered "dis-honounorable":
-Pile Jumping, attack someone halfway through a fight or jsut as they finish a fight
-Rushing, not giving people tiem to prepare for a fight


Isnt it "honor", Recommended, Just
QUOTE
Q: What is 26king?

A: 26king is killing other people with 26k on trying to get good drops. This is used to get drops after gathering potential without the danger of pking.


26k/76k,

I found a lot of mistakes while going through this edit it.

Definition of a hybrid.

QUOTE
A hybrid is a term usually used for combat pures. A hybrid works on multiple skills. The most common hybrid is ranged/magic. It is difficult to use, but it should be possible to have equal primary statistics in two or even three classes of combat or at least a working ability in one or two other combat classes. Usually it is best to work on only 2 different combat types, rather than working on 3. Otherwise your combat will be high and your combat skill level will not be the best it can be.


I take no credits for the hybrid definition i just took it off runescape wikia.

-Pk3d
Zetilum
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