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Golf Foxtrot Sierra
So, is organic food saving the environment? Protecting our food? Do we need organic food? Does it offer benefits?

Discuss.
jack-nicholson
I'm a very firm anti-organic person. The more artificial, dangerous and unhealthy something is for our bodies, so much the better. It seems to be a very conservative mindset, that just because so called "organic" food was good enough for the hunter-gatherers and other societies, that somehow makes it better than other food types.

I say destroy your bodies, breathe smoke, enjoy the hedonistic pleasure of death and decay. Trying to prolong your existence is little more than spiritual masturbation.
Witcherer
Personally i don't have anything against organic products, in general alot of them do taste alot better than some of the relative mass produced processed shizzle you can buy otherwise (except for organic beer....wtf honestly). The only true downside I've found is that most organic products cost you an arm and a leg to buy, but if you do have the funds i don't see why any capable self respecting human wouldn't.

That being said, i don't feel any renewed respect for life when i eat the stuff personally but thats just me, I'd rather more than anything take a trip down to Mc'Dizzles and buy a Big Mac and Cheeseburger with a side of Large fries and Coke.
Spirit Shield
if you have the money its a great idea but if you don't i personnaly think that you should use those non-organic things because its a slight waste of money if you happen to not be incredibly wealthy.
Definition
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Jun 2 2009, 03:29 AM) *
I'm a very firm anti-organic person. The more artificial, dangerous and unhealthy something is for our bodies, so much the better. It seems to be a very conservative mindset, that just because so called "organic" food was good enough for the hunter-gatherers and other societies, that somehow makes it better than other food types.

I say destroy your bodies, breathe smoke, enjoy the hedonistic pleasure of death and decay. Trying to prolong your existence is little more than spiritual masturbation.


Spiritual masturbation? A lot of what you say has validity, but this is just bs
redmonke
The problem with organic foods is that there's no regulation. My mom's co-worker's dad works for a farm where he has two fields right by each other, one "organic" and one regular.
Soukie
Protecting your body and the environment is not worth it when you're paying double the amount for the same produce; that's all it comes down to. Most families don't have the luxury of "going organic" because of the ridiculous costs.
Mega
That's a difficult question. Organic food isn't always healthier or better for the environment. Some types os genetically/chemically alterated food offer more nutrients and damage less the soil. Also, organic food is harder to produce and less resistance to diseases, so if we only ate it we'd probably starve to death.
I think the best solution would be improving even more the farming technology, developing healthy and more resistant plants. The use of pesticides and chemicals on the plant should be better regulated, so we all know what we're eating.
Bennett
Organic food only has the psychological benefit of making you feel healthy in your mind. You don't need to adopt any stupid organic or vegan diet to be healthy. You can make a healthy eating choice just about anywhere.
Redicaluss
QUOTE (Pixel Bunnie @ Jun 2 2009, 06:14 PM) *
Protecting your body and the environment is not worth it when you're paying double the amount for the same produce; that's all it comes down to. Most families don't have the luxury of "going organic" because of the ridiculous costs.



QUOTE (Bennett @ Jun 3 2009, 10:24 PM) *
Organic food only has the psychological benefit of making you feel healthy in your mind. You don't need to adopt any stupid organic or vegan diet to be healthy. You can make a healthy eating choice just about anywhere.


I agree. I feel that this whole organic thing, while it may be beneficial, is not very practical.
Adam?
QUOTE (Definition @ Jun 2 2009, 04:52 PM) *
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Jun 2 2009, 03:29 AM) *
I'm a very firm anti-organic person. The more artificial, dangerous and unhealthy something is for our bodies, so much the better. It seems to be a very conservative mindset, that just because so called "organic" food was good enough for the hunter-gatherers and other societies, that somehow makes it better than other food types.

I say destroy your bodies, breathe smoke, enjoy the hedonistic pleasure of death and decay. Trying to prolong your existence is little more than spiritual masturbation.


Spiritual masturbation? A lot of what you say has validity, but this is just bs

I found it hilarious.

Organic food is fine, but buying everything organic is ridiculous. I don't feel like explaining some of the stupidest "organic" things my mom brought home simply because it had the word "organic" plastered on the bag.
Nihilus
QUOTE (Adam? @ Jun 7 2009, 04:45 AM) *
I don't feel like explaining some of the stupidest "organic" things my mom brought home simply because it had the word "organic" plastered on the bag.

Oh, but now you've got us all so very interested. It is a ludicrous concept to buy organic food simply because it's organic; in fact when shopping, I tend to just pick things off the shelf and toss them in the trolley since I'm lucky enough that money has never been a large issue thanks to a massive inheritance from my grandparents, however I'll glance at the packaging every so often and toss the item back onto the shelf if it say's 'organic', simply out of spite.

I find myself agreeing with jack-nicholson. I can't say that I'm a true hedonist myself, believing as I do that there are a few little things more important that personal satisfaction and pleasure, but 'Organic Food' is certainly not one of those few things. If you care about your body and can honestly say that organic food makes a definitive difference in your lifestyle, then have at it; but otherwise, it's an insane concept to expect the way that our food is grown to make a profound impact on our day to day lifestyles.
soxking
It depends. I like organic fruits, vegetables, and meats better, but organic cookies, crackers, or chips are just nasty.

Some things taste better if they're organic, but some organic things are gross. What annoys me is when people ignore taste, and simply buy stuff because it's organic. If you find a substitute for your favorite snack that tastes just as good, that's fine, but I hate when people sacrifice the taste simply because it's "better for them."
dlawlrence
QUOTE (soxking @ Jun 7 2009, 07:02 AM) *
It depends. I like organic fruits, vegetables, and meats better, but organic cookies, crackers, or chips are just nasty.

Some things taste better if they're organic, but some organic things are gross. What annoys me is when people ignore taste, and simply buy stuff because it's organic. If you find a substitute for your favorite snack that tastes just as good, that's fine, but I hate when people sacrifice the taste simply because it's "better for them."

That's probably because the cookies and whatnots aren't just organic, they're GFCF or maybe just GF or something equally bad-tasting. GFCF being gluten-free casein-free. GF basically means wheat-free.
Emo_Nemo
Organic and Regular food are basically the same healthwise.


Research has yet to prove of any adverse health effects from the small amounts of pesticides that may be in food grown using pesticides. Organic food is nothing more then a scam.
soxking
QUOTE (Fruityfed @ Jun 7 2009, 10:06 AM) *
QUOTE (soxking @ Jun 7 2009, 07:02 AM) *
It depends. I like organic fruits, vegetables, and meats better, but organic cookies, crackers, or chips are just nasty.

Some things taste better if they're organic, but some organic things are gross. What annoys me is when people ignore taste, and simply buy stuff because it's organic. If you find a substitute for your favorite snack that tastes just as good, that's fine, but I hate when people sacrifice the taste simply because it's "better for them."

That's probably because the cookies and whatnots aren't just organic, they're GFCF or maybe just GF or something equally bad-tasting. GFCF being gluten-free casein-free. GF basically means wheat-free.

Maybe, but all I know is that most of the 'organic' snack food I've tried tastes terrible.
Gravedigg154
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Jun 2 2009, 02:29 AM) *
I'm a very firm anti-organic person. The more artificial, dangerous and unhealthy something is for our bodies, so much the better. It seems to be a very conservative mindset, that just because so called "organic" food was good enough for the hunter-gatherers and other societies, that somehow makes it better than other food types.

I say destroy your bodies, breathe smoke, enjoy the hedonistic pleasure of death and decay. Trying to prolong your existence is little more than spiritual masturbation.
THIS
What's the point of living a long life if you aren't having fun in the process.
Sure drugs may be hurting my body, but I can honestly say I am having much more fun than if I wasn't.
On the topic of organic food I think it is just a scam to make companies more money.
Hilly
Organic food has been proved it is more nutritious, containing more vitamins and minerals etc etc.
Also, it costs more than normal as the yield isn't as big as unorganic food.
Samurai Kenji
I don't like the taste of Glucose or any artificial sweetener in my food (With some exceptions) Its not a health choice it just makes me cringe for some reason and has the taste appeal of a rotten fish.

None the less i can do nothing but +1 to this

QUOTE
I'm a very firm anti-organic person. The more artificial, dangerous and unhealthy something is for our bodies, so much the better. It seems to be a very conservative mindset, that just because so called "organic" food was good enough for the hunter-gatherers and other societies, that somehow makes it better than other food types.

I say destroy your bodies, breathe smoke, enjoy the hedonistic pleasure of death and decay. Trying to prolong your existence is little more than spiritual masturbation.

Anastacia
For chickens, organic can be worse than free range, as they could be cooped up all day in a battery farming operation, but fed organic, so you think it's all ok and good, whereas free range is good as they can run around, and organic and free range is the best!
Bongo Baggins
organic food is not protecting our food....from bugs. The right idea for organic would be to breed it or genetically engineer it in a way that it will resist the fungus attacks. as for bugs...stop killing the birds or maybe introduce another plant in addition to the regular crop. a plant that will make bugs turn away...there must be some out there.
dlawlrence
QUOTE (Bongo Baggins @ Jun 19 2009, 04:45 PM) *
organic food is not protecting our food....from bugs. The right idea for organic would be to breed it or genetically engineer it in a way that it will resist the fungus attacks. as for bugs...stop killing the birds or maybe introduce another plant in addition to the regular crop. a plant that will make bugs turn away...there must be some out there.

You realize the whole point of organic produce is to do as few artificial things as possible while growing/processing/selling it, right?
Bongo Baggins
QUOTE (Fruityfed @ Jun 20 2009, 10:17 AM) *
QUOTE (Bongo Baggins @ Jun 19 2009, 04:45 PM) *
organic food is not protecting our food....from bugs. The right idea for organic would be to breed it or genetically engineer it in a way that it will resist the fungus attacks. as for bugs...stop killing the birds or maybe introduce another plant in addition to the regular crop. a plant that will make bugs turn away...there must be some out there.

You realize the whole point of organic produce is to do as few artificial things as possible while growing/processing/selling it, right?

I was actaully aware that the point of organic is to reduce the runoff of chemichals into the ecosytems around the farm and into the rivers and into the sea.
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