LP Forever
Jun 10 2009, 04:03 PM
I never really worked with vista so i'm curious. What were it's problems that made so many people hate it?
Caboose
Jun 10 2009, 04:07 PM
Basically, it uses more resources than XP. Although on a decent PC today that really isn't a problem. Apart from that it's superior in every way.
_Ej
Jun 10 2009, 04:23 PM
"You are opening a folder, are you sure you want to do that?"
"You have cliked yes, are you sure you are sure"
"Doing this may harm your system"
"Are you sure"
SHUT UP!
Too many security warnings for me
gabtdw
Jun 10 2009, 04:25 PM
It's a bit slower on 1gb RAM or less or generation-before-last CPUs (Pentium). People complain 'ooooh, it's hard to use', but it's easier than XP, particularly in Explorer. Aero looks better than the traditional look of non-transparency and the start menu is improved over XP. With the right security software and some common sense, you're no more likely to obtain any viruses than you are on other systems - just don't download anything from any untrustworthy sites

So, from a very superficial scan, Vista has no problems
LP Forever
Jun 10 2009, 04:53 PM
sounds like it has alot of good and some bad.
Emo_Nemo
Jun 10 2009, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (_Ej @ Jun 10 2009, 05:23 PM)

"You are opening a folder, are you sure you want to do that?"
"You have cliked yes, are you sure you are sure"
"Doing this may harm your system"
"Are you sure"
SHUT UP!
Too many security warnings for me

Uhm whens the last time you used it?
The only time it ever gives prompts is when your installing. Its not much different from Linux as far as it asking for root.
redmonke
Jun 10 2009, 05:36 PM
I really haven't found anything bad about it yet. There's a little bothersome stuff like UAC and the shut down button not being directly on the start menu, but those can easily be changed.
It is OK with games, not the best, but you won't lose major performance (depends on the system, of course).
I personally think that people underrate Vista, but once they start using it (a properly set up one), they'll see that it's really not that bad.

Only problem I really had was that KOTOR didn't run well with Vista. That's my only major complaint, but it's nothing major.
torey666
Jun 10 2009, 06:00 PM
Takes a bit to get used to the extras. However, I like it. didn't think i would either.
Kyra10987
Jun 10 2009, 06:29 PM
GIMP shuts down. Alot. Especially when you go to the "Colors" menu.
Nrox
Jun 10 2009, 06:38 PM
Nothing. Maybe a little bit of slowdown compared to XP back in the RTM stage but it pretty much runs just as fast now. UAC can easily be turned off. Besides, the main people who spread that crap about Vista have either never tried it (like how chain letters spread) or are Linux/Mac/XP fanbois.
lilshu
Jun 10 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE
UAC can easily be turned off.
And now I get security warnings telling me to turn it back on.
QUOTE
Besides, the main people who spread that crap about Vista have either never tried it (like how chain letters spread) or are Linux/Mac/XP fanbois.
Because a realistic opinion doesn't exist on the internet.
Emo_Nemo
Jun 10 2009, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (lilshu @ Jun 10 2009, 08:20 PM)

QUOTE
UAC can easily be turned off.
And now I get security warnings telling me to turn it back on.
QUOTE
Besides, the main people who spread that crap about Vista have either never tried it (like how chain letters spread) or are Linux/Mac/XP fanbois.
Because a realistic opinion doesn't exist on the internet.

Actually its hard to tell if people really think the way they do or are jumping on the bandwagon on the internet thats the beauty of anonymity
redmonke
Jun 10 2009, 08:21 PM
I use
this to turn off UAC from tell you to turn it on.
Bob-sama
Jun 10 2009, 11:09 PM
1) Turn UAC off
2) Turn security warnings off
3) Enjoy.
I much prefer Vista. I have to say the start menu is a BIG improvement. I like the quick-search, so I can just hit "wo" and MS Word is the first thing on my list. Type "in" and it's Internet Explorer. "pa" and I'm headed right for Paint. Being able to type in there is a lot faster for me as I prefer to type to moving the mouse too far. Vista is much better with the 64-bit kernel, and having a lot of RAM is a HUGE bonus. A LOT of modern computers ship with 4GB of RAM, so using Vista64 is a natural choice. Performance is sweet overall, especially after you get over the first few days. Use it normally and it's a lot faster and more stable than XP ever was. XP has its merits, but I find it overall a big downgrade. A lot of people had legitimate complaints in the first few months after Vista was released, but even before the first Service Pack, the updates brought the OS up to speed and stability on most computers.
redmonke
Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM
QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Jun 10 2009, 11:09 PM)

1) Turn UAC off
2) Turn security warnings off
3) Enjoy.
I much prefer Vista. I have to say the start menu is a BIG improvement. I like the quick-search, so I can just hit "wo" and MS Word is the first thing on my list. Type "in" and it's Internet Explorer. "pa" and I'm headed right for Paint. Being able to type in there is a lot faster for me as I prefer to type to moving the mouse too far. Vista is much better with the 64-bit kernel, and having a lot of RAM is a HUGE bonus. A LOT of modern computers ship with 4GB of RAM, so using Vista64 is a natural choice. Performance is sweet overall, especially after you get over the first few days. Use it normally and it's a lot faster and more stable than XP ever was. XP has its merits, but I find it overall a big downgrade. A lot of people had legitimate complaints in the first few months after Vista was released, but even before the first Service Pack, the updates brought the OS up to speed and stability on most computers.
I agree. The search is a godsend. I can't stand on XP when you have to hit All Programs and wait for the whole list to load.
opac
Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM
True enough Bob-sama
First and second steps are a necessity for Windows Vista.
Windows Vista is a bit slow from XP, partially because it has alot of things incorperated into it, apart from that it's really easy to learn how to use it.
redmonke
Jun 10 2009, 11:16 PM
Actually, I keep UAC enabled on all my other computers that my siblings use. This way they read what can happen and can make a choice themself.
Only thing I don't like is the hiccup between clicking the .exe (or whatever) and the screen dimming to the choice menu, but I guess that's partially my computer's specs.
LP Forever
Jun 11 2009, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM)

QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Jun 10 2009, 11:09 PM)

1) Turn UAC off
2) Turn security warnings off
3) Enjoy.
I much prefer Vista. I have to say the start menu is a BIG improvement. I like the quick-search, so I can just hit "wo" and MS Word is the first thing on my list. Type "in" and it's Internet Explorer. "pa" and I'm headed right for Paint. Being able to type in there is a lot faster for me as I prefer to type to moving the mouse too far. Vista is much better with the 64-bit kernel, and having a lot of RAM is a HUGE bonus. A LOT of modern computers ship with 4GB of RAM, so using Vista64 is a natural choice. Performance is sweet overall, especially after you get over the first few days. Use it normally and it's a lot faster and more stable than XP ever was. XP has its merits, but I find it overall a big downgrade. A lot of people had legitimate complaints in the first few months after Vista was released, but even before the first Service Pack, the updates brought the OS up to speed and stability on most computers.
I agree. The search is a godsend. I can't stand on XP when you have to hit All Programs and wait for the whole list to load.

actually it's been a while since i used XP but i did come across this mythical search box somewhere within it...
redmonke
Jun 11 2009, 12:29 AM
QUOTE (LP Forever @ Jun 11 2009, 12:26 AM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM)

QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Jun 10 2009, 11:09 PM)

1) Turn UAC off
2) Turn security warnings off
3) Enjoy.
I much prefer Vista. I have to say the start menu is a BIG improvement. I like the quick-search, so I can just hit "wo" and MS Word is the first thing on my list. Type "in" and it's Internet Explorer. "pa" and I'm headed right for Paint. Being able to type in there is a lot faster for me as I prefer to type to moving the mouse too far. Vista is much better with the 64-bit kernel, and having a lot of RAM is a HUGE bonus. A LOT of modern computers ship with 4GB of RAM, so using Vista64 is a natural choice. Performance is sweet overall, especially after you get over the first few days. Use it normally and it's a lot faster and more stable than XP ever was. XP has its merits, but I find it overall a big downgrade. A lot of people had legitimate complaints in the first few months after Vista was released, but even before the first Service Pack, the updates brought the OS up to speed and stability on most computers.
I agree. The search is a godsend. I can't stand on XP when you have to hit All Programs and wait for the whole list to load.

actually it's been a while since i used XP but i did come across this mythical search box somewhere within it...
The search button in XP is incredibly slow and inaccurate.
With Vista/7, all you do is hit start then type. Your program comes up instantly (magic).
LP Forever
Jun 11 2009, 12:36 AM
QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 11 2009, 12:29 AM)

QUOTE (LP Forever @ Jun 11 2009, 12:26 AM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jun 10 2009, 11:13 PM)

QUOTE (Bob-sama @ Jun 10 2009, 11:09 PM)

1) Turn UAC off
2) Turn security warnings off
3) Enjoy.
I much prefer Vista. I have to say the start menu is a BIG improvement. I like the quick-search, so I can just hit "wo" and MS Word is the first thing on my list. Type "in" and it's Internet Explorer. "pa" and I'm headed right for Paint. Being able to type in there is a lot faster for me as I prefer to type to moving the mouse too far. Vista is much better with the 64-bit kernel, and having a lot of RAM is a HUGE bonus. A LOT of modern computers ship with 4GB of RAM, so using Vista64 is a natural choice. Performance is sweet overall, especially after you get over the first few days. Use it normally and it's a lot faster and more stable than XP ever was. XP has its merits, but I find it overall a big downgrade. A lot of people had legitimate complaints in the first few months after Vista was released, but even before the first Service Pack, the updates brought the OS up to speed and stability on most computers.
I agree. The search is a godsend. I can't stand on XP when you have to hit All Programs and wait for the whole list to load.

actually it's been a while since i used XP but i did come across this mythical search box somewhere within it...
The search button in XP is incredibly slow and inaccurate.
With Vista/7, all you do is hit start then type. Your program comes up instantly (magic).

very true
Cattius
Jun 11 2009, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Kyra10987 @ Jun 11 2009, 12:29 AM)

GIMP shuts down. Alot. Especially when you go to the "Colors" menu.
I have used GIMP on both Vista and Windows 7 and have never had any problems, so I don't think that's a problem affecting all Vista computers.
Kyra10987
Jun 11 2009, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (Cattius @ Jun 11 2009, 10:52 AM)

QUOTE (Kyra10987 @ Jun 11 2009, 12:29 AM)

GIMP shuts down. Alot. Especially when you go to the "Colors" menu.
I have used GIMP on both Vista and Windows 7 and have never had any problems, so I don't think that's a problem affecting all Vista computers.
For some computers with Vista it's a compatability issue.
Cattius
Jun 11 2009, 11:04 AM
QUOTE (Kyra10987 @ Jun 11 2009, 04:57 PM)

For some computers with Vista it's a compatability issue.
I should think that would be a compatibility issue with a driver or similar, and not with Vista, seeing as not all Vista computers experience the problem.
Emo_Nemo
Jun 11 2009, 11:51 AM
QUOTE (Cattius @ Jun 11 2009, 11:52 AM)

QUOTE (Kyra10987 @ Jun 11 2009, 12:29 AM)

GIMP shuts down. Alot. Especially when you go to the "Colors" menu.
I have used GIMP on both Vista and Windows 7 and have never had any problems, so I don't think that's a problem affecting all Vista computers.
Even if it was a problem not working right is not a Vista problem its a program problem.
That was one of the main things to instead of blaming coders of drivers and programs it was immediately assumed that if a program didn't work right it was because Vista sucked.
Caboose
Jun 11 2009, 01:30 PM
And there's always Sumo Paint and Paint.net
Kyra10987
Jun 11 2009, 04:07 PM
Well, I posted a "Help me" and people said that it was a compatibility problem.
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