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Shade Pure
I was thinking of a feature that can go above the warning feature that looks like this

Thanks: 1

and every time you help someone they can click a Thank button to increase the total Thanks the person has. I thought it might make this forum even friendlier.
Muttmuttinthebutt
QUOTE (Vi72US @ Jun 15 2009, 04:31 PM) *
I was thinking of a feature that can go above the warning feature that looks like this

Thanks: 1

and every time you help someone they can click a Thank button to increase the total Thanks the person has. I thought it might make this forum even friendlier.

Pretty much impossible to add, from my knowledge.
Easl
ITs possible its like popularity other forums have. I would personally love this
Ledgendary
Isn't that like the negative number thing?

Although it's a cool suggestion.
Donovan
I've only ever seen it work out in a somewhat small forum, indeed it does help new members get to know who is trustworthy easier. Thing is with larger forums those types of add-ons often get abused and never really serve their original purpose. It would just be wasted time to have a reputation system like that because friends would just up their friends without consideration.
Gillis
It would be so much fun to get my friend to give me 100 tha- Oh wait.
Topdog
I think negative warns sort of serves the purpose of your suggestion, except for the fact that it's not the general public of the forum that gets to say if you were helpful or not, but rather the forum staff. And, as others have said, your suggestion could easily be abused.
Easl
QUOTE (Topdog @ Jun 15 2009, 04:11 PM) *
I think negative warns already serve the purpose of your suggestion, except for the fact that it's not the general public of the forum that gets to say if you were helpful or not, but rather the forum staff. And, as others have said, your suggestion could easily be abused.

Yes but the forum and the staff are so different. Most of the staff and suck ups would call me a pain in the arse, but the majority of fakes and pvp would see me as a helpful member. Besides, I think I'm the only sals member to have a fan club on the cc tongue.gif
Topdog
QUOTE (easl @ Jun 15 2009, 05:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Topdog @ Jun 15 2009, 04:11 PM) *
I think negative warns already serve the purpose of your suggestion, except for the fact that it's not the general public of the forum that gets to say if you were helpful or not, but rather the forum staff. And, as others have said, your suggestion could easily be abused.

Yes but the forum and the staff are so different. Most of the staff and suck ups would call me a pain in the arse, but the majority of fakes and pvp would see me as a helpful member. Besides, I think I'm the only sals member to have a fan club on the cc tongue.gif

Well, following along the lines of what has been said about how this suggestion could be abused, don't you think that your friends from whatever forum would just boost your helpfulness rating for no reason? The forum staff, I hope ( huh.gif ), would be responsible enough to not just negatively warn you for no reason, but instead give you a negative warn because you deserved it.
Gillis
QUOTE (Gillis @ Jun 15 2009, 02:03 PM) *
It would be so much fun to get my friend to give me 100 tha- Oh wait.



QUOTE (Topdog @ Jun 15 2009, 02:18 PM) *
QUOTE (easl @ Jun 15 2009, 05:14 PM) *
QUOTE (Topdog @ Jun 15 2009, 04:11 PM) *
I think negative warns already serve the purpose of your suggestion, except for the fact that it's not the general public of the forum that gets to say if you were helpful or not, but rather the forum staff. And, as others have said, your suggestion could easily be abused.

Yes but the forum and the staff are so different. Most of the staff and suck ups would call me a pain in the arse, but the majority of fakes and pvp would see me as a helpful member. Besides, I think I'm the only sals member to have a fan club on the cc tongue.gif

Well, following along the lines of what has been said about how this suggestion could be abused, don't you think that your friends from whatever forum would just boost your helpfulness rating for no reason? The forum staff, I hope ( huh.gif ), would be responsible enough to not just negatively warn you for no reason, but instead give you a negative warn because you deserved it.

Oh would you look at that. This won't work no matter how many modifications you make to the idea.
Shade Pure
Thank you Don Florty, I didn't see that, you're right, and people probably would abuse it. The warning system actually works pretty well. It was just a suggestion.
Cake
If this did happen, and there was a feature you could get, the member would spam the thank feature by reloading the page. Obviously.
Easl
QUOTE (Cake @ Jun 15 2009, 10:43 PM) *
If this did happen, and there was a feature you could get, the member would spam the thank feature by reloading the page. Obviously.

Forums that ahve it usually put a one a day limit on
Cake
QUOTE (easl @ Jun 16 2009, 02:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Cake @ Jun 15 2009, 10:43 PM) *
If this did happen, and there was a feature you could get, the member would spam the thank feature by reloading the page. Obviously.

Forums that ahve it usually put a one a day limit on


That's dumb, then. It would take a year to get 365 points. mellow.gif
Grimm
This idea could work perfectly (if executed well) on a forum with a smaller community, however it just doesn't label itself as 'working well' on Sals. It's as what other people have said, the Warning System (the negative numbers to be exact) is quite similar to your concept of a Reputation system of sorts. Besides, it would be quickly abused and users would stray far away from the original reason of the 'Thanks' feature and it's true purpose.

But nevertheless, a fine addition to any small community indeed.
Topdog
QUOTE (Cake @ Jun 16 2009, 03:30 AM) *
QUOTE (easl @ Jun 16 2009, 02:02 AM) *
QUOTE (Cake @ Jun 15 2009, 10:43 PM) *
If this did happen, and there was a feature you could get, the member would spam the thank feature by reloading the page. Obviously.

Forums that ahve it usually put a one a day limit on


That's dumb, then. It would take a year to get 365 points. mellow.gif

Not if you have more than one person thanking you. wink2.gif But still, I would consider it abuse if someone thanked another person every single day, unless, of course, that person was actually directly helpful to that person every time.
Sparhawke
A reputation system has been discussed a couple of times but it is something that would have to be monitored so that it doesnt simply become a game of the same people repping others for getting reps themselves...

They can work in theory but tend to cause many more problems than they help with, especially for newer members who can get frustrated at times and have a tendency to let everyone know about it tongue.gif

(The situation described above in no way relates to me aware.gif)
Dreaded
QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Jun 16 2009, 12:56 PM) *
They can work in theory but tend to cause many more problems than they help with, especially for newer members who can get frustrated at times and have a tendency to let everyone know about it tongue.gif


I can understand what you saying, but I'm confused a bit.
In what way will new members get frustrated over it?

About the suggestion, I think we should implement it. Shouldn't be too hard. happy.gif
Poke
In Skill Logs, instead of 'Post in my log and I'll post in yours' it'll be 'Post in my log and you get thanks'.
Cake
QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Jun 16 2009, 11:56 AM) *
A reputation system has been discussed a couple of times but it is something that would have to be monitored so that it doesnt simply become a game of the same people repping others for getting reps themselves...

They can work in theory but tend to cause many more problems than they help with, especially for newer members who can get frustrated at times and have a tendency to let everyone know about it tongue.gif

(The situation described above in no way relates to me aware.gif)


A rep system, huh? I think there's a mod for IPB, but it's a system that is overused and just simply give rep to someone who is their friend. mellow.gif

QUOTE (Poke @ Jun 16 2009, 02:33 PM) *
In Skill Logs, instead of 'Post in my log and I'll post in yours' it'll be 'Post in my log and you get thanks'.


Exactly. It'll get overused. sleep.gif
Sparhawke
QUOTE (Dreaded @ Jun 16 2009, 06:00 PM) *
QUOTE (Sparhawke @ Jun 16 2009, 12:56 PM) *
They can work in theory but tend to cause many more problems than they help with, especially for newer members who can get frustrated at times and have a tendency to let everyone know about it tongue.gif


I can understand what you saying, but I'm confused a bit.
In what way will new members get frustrated over it?

About the suggestion, I think we should implement it. Shouldn't be too hard. happy.gif


Because by & large it is the new members who find themselves not knowing the rules and protocols of a forum, and not knowing who the cliques are and they are the most likely to fall foul of over-zealous neg-reppers simply because they don't know that a question has already been asked before.

If I knew there could be a minimum post count of 200 before using it I would probably not be so dead against it, by that time people would have a fair idea of what is acceptable and what isn't.

And another point I would like to bring up, it should not be a tool for people being wannabe-mods thinking they are posting anonymous reputation comments......
Thomas
Would it be possible to only allow mods to neg-rep? And a limit so that you can't rep the same person again until you wait a week or rep 100 other people or something?
Arianna
QUOTE (Thomas @ Jun 17 2009, 10:38 AM) *
Would it be possible to only allow mods to neg-rep? And a limit so that you can't rep the same person again until you wait a week or rep 100 other people or something?

That would be a good line of thought...or disable negative reputation altogether? huh.gif

@Spar: cliques can only do so much, quantity-wise. I don't think they would be a big enough problem.

QUOTE
it's a system that is overused and just simply give rep to someone who is their friend
I don't see what's wrong with that. Unlikeable people don't have many friends, usually, do they? O_o
Cake
QUOTE
Would it be possible to only allow mods to neg-rep? And a limit so that you can\\\'t rep the same person again until you wait a week or rep 100 other people or something?


It could, if the reputation mod have settings for that, but let\\\'s have the normal users give both negative or positive rep. I do not want that mod implemented, though, it is only solely a feature.

And a week before rep? That\\\'s stupid. Let\\\'s have the members to have a few reps to give before they are reset in a few hours or so.

But again, it\\\'s like Proboards of exalting or smiting, I do not like it.

QUOTE
QUOTE
it\\\'s a system that is overused and just simply give rep to someone who is their friend
I don\\\'t see what\\\'s wrong with that. Unlikeable people don\\\'t have many friends, usually, do they? O_o


Well, people could just give rep, like Poke said, which is stupid. Reps should just be given to anyone who asked a question that the asker got a clean answer in return.
Dreaded
QUOTE (Cake @ Jun 16 2009, 09:18 PM) *
Exactly. It'll get overused. sleep.gif


Not necessarily. I'm sure restrictions and new rules will be put up along with the feature.
I support, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. closedeyes.gif

EDIT: Actually as Sparhawke said, a minimum post count would be a good idea.
Rizzo
Going along with the idea of having restrictions, what happens if there was an option to view who has boosted someone's rep? (Slightly like the way you can see who has posted in a topic.) This way, people can see whether or not friends have helped friends and "cheated" the reputation system.

Just a thought.

EDIT: Typo.
EDIT2: Addition to suggestion.
Arianna
QUOTE
Well, people could just give rep, like Poke said, which is stupid. Reps should just be given to anyone who asked a question that the asker got a clean answer in return.
We don't have such a restriction on posts, why should we have it on such a system? I still don't get it. O_o

I mean, are we supposed to do anything if somebody posts after a friend and supports what his friend says? No? Then why should we do that for reputation?



Thomas
QUOTE (Arianna @ Jun 17 2009, 11:46 PM) *
QUOTE
Well, people could just give rep, like Poke said, which is stupid. Reps should just be given to anyone who asked a question that the asker got a clean answer in return.
We don't have such a restriction on posts, why should we have it on such a system? I still don't get it. O_o

I mean, are we supposed to do anything if somebody posts after a friend and supports what his friend says? No? Then why should we do that for reputation?
mhm of course that will happen, but not most of the time (i.e. if you post a good answer most pos. reps will come from people who like the answer not from your friends who can be bothered).

The limit of "must rep 100 people before doing someone again" would fix problems with pos or neg repping wouldn't it? No friend-on-friend repping for love or hate would work.
Raz
Only if you could down rep someone so I could act like an goosedown and get rewarded with a big negative number.
Falcon
QUOTE (Ledgendary @ Jun 15 2009, 04:53 PM) *
Isn't that like the negative number thing?

Although it's a cool suggestion.


No, negative "numbers" indicate warn levels that have been decreased to under zero by a moderator because the member-at-hand has been very kind, helpful, etc on the forums.

QUOTE (Mutt @ Jun 15 2009, 04:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Vi72US @ Jun 15 2009, 04:31 PM) *
I was thinking of a feature that can go above the warning feature that looks like this

Thanks: 1

and every time you help someone they can click a Thank button to increase the total Thanks the person has. I thought it might make this forum even friendlier.

Pretty much impossible to add, from my knowledge.


Even thought it is not a built-in feature on the IP.Board AdminCP, this is a lot like the Popularity feature (as the third poster said) on most forums, and would be quite easy to tweak using BB/HTML code to divert it to a "Thanks" type of feature.

QUOTE (Vi72US @ Jun 15 2009, 04:31 PM) *
I was thinking of a feature that can go above the warning feature that looks like this

Thanks: 1

and every time you help someone they can click a Thank button to increase the total Thanks the person has. I thought it might make this forum even friendlier.


I think this is a good idea, and would make some members feel good, but it could have a main issue I can see:
Let's say you helped out a member greatly, but, for some reason, they didn't give you thanks. So you remind them too, but they still don't. Then you get mad and come up and full-on tell them to give you one.

This kind of thing could ensue behavior such as this; people getting mad that they didn't get a thanks mark when they think they should, but maybe the person they helped doesn't.

A "Thanks" feature could also stimulate members to hole themselves above members with less thanks marks, creating an overall negative atmosphere.

All that aside, those setbacks could somehow be dealt with, in order to make that a great new feature.
error404
QUOTE (Mutt @ Jun 15 2009, 08:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Vi72US @ Jun 15 2009, 04:31 PM) *
I was thinking of a feature that can go above the warning feature that looks like this

Thanks: 1

and every time you help someone they can click a Thank button to increase the total Thanks the person has. I thought it might make this forum even friendlier.

Pretty much impossible to add, from my knowledge.
With a bit of coding the profile custom menu, it is possible but you will need a ftp client and a good one as well.


QUOTE (Ledgendary @ Jun 15 2009, 08:53 PM) *
Isn't that like the negative number thing?

Although it's a cool suggestion.
NOpe because that is if a mod thinks you have done exceptionally well


QUOTE (Topdog @ Jun 15 2009, 09:11 PM) *
I think negative warns sort of serves the purpose of your suggestion, except for the fact that it's not the general public of the forum that gets to say if you were helpful or not, but rather the forum staff. And, as others have said, your suggestion could easily be abused.
Yes it could but there could be a reason menu that mods can go to.
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