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Grimm
Well I've been using Mozilla Firefox for as long as I can remember now, and it's been an extremely handy, flexible and easy to use web browser so far. However, I'm interested in experimenting with other web browsers (excluding Internet Explorer), such as Google Chrome and Opera. I'm looking for your advice, as the 'techies' if I might be so bold to say. Are they worth using? Which is the most flexible and easy to handle? Which one is the most efficient in terms of performance? Should I just stick to Mozilla?

Questions needing answers and a curiosity seeking to be extinguished. Also, suggestions on other good web browsers that you yourself know well is helpful too.
Arianna
Personally, I've always felt Opera to be generally slicker than Firefox and being generally more pleasurable to use (in fact, I'm using Opera 10 right now). However, there is not that much difference between Opera and Firefox, so if you're Ok with Firefox you might as well stick with Firefox.

Experimenting never hurt anyone, anyway - I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Lynx on my computer, go figure. tongue.gif
Stobbo
Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Opera and Chrome all do the job fine and it is more down to what you prefer. I use Firefox because I always have so I am used to it, but that's the only reason.

So, I'd suggest you experiment with all of them and find which works best for you.
Topdog
If you're really into Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, or any other social networking site, you should at least take a look at Flock. smile.gif
Caboose
QUOTE (Arianna @ Jun 26 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Personally, I've always felt Opera to be generally slicker than Firefox and being generally more pleasurable to use (in fact, I'm using Opera 10 right now). However, there is not that much difference between Opera and Firefox, so if you're Ok with Firefox you might as well stick with Firefox.

Experimenting never hurt anyone, anyway - I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Lynx on my computer, go figure. tongue.gif


It's worth mentioning that you're the only one who likes Opera tongue.gif

If you're looking for a new experience, i would try Chrome. There are tons out there though, you don't have to stick with the norm.
Arianna
QUOTE (Caboose @ Jun 26 2009, 04:11 PM) *
QUOTE (Arianna @ Jun 26 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Personally, I've always felt Opera to be generally slicker than Firefox and being generally more pleasurable to use (in fact, I'm using Opera 10 right now). However, there is not that much difference between Opera and Firefox, so if you're Ok with Firefox you might as well stick with Firefox.

Experimenting never hurt anyone, anyway - I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Lynx on my computer, go figure. tongue.gif


It's worth mentioning that you're the only one who likes Opera tongue.gif

But I am awesome and so are my preferences. greenhat.gif

@Topdog: isn't Flock just Mozilla with a hundred pimp-ups you will use scarcely if ever? tongue.gif
Cattius
Chrome and Firefox are my favourites. I find both to have good standards support, and to be stable and fast. Firefox is obviously the better of the two for customization, but I love Chrome because it looks great on my Win 7 RC laptop - transparency ftw cool.gif Also, the way Chrome works with Java is very different, and I find it to work better, which is good for RS. I haven't used Opera all that much, but from what I have seen of it, it seems very fast and packed full of features that other browsers don't have. So as others have said, have a go with all of them and see which you prefer.

I haven't used IE8 much but the impression I've got from light usage is very poor. It seems slower to start up and load pages than the other browsers, renders fonts in a way I don't like, and has an interface that seems pretty clunky. But it's still an improvement from IE7, and you may find you like it.

@Arianna: I've never used Flock but if I remember correctly it is based around Firefox, but revolves around social networking, which could be useful if you have to keep track of several social networks.
vengence
If you want a sleek, simple, fast web browser I recommend Google Chrome. I also recommend FireFox as a utility browser. I use both. IE is trash as far as I'm concerned. I have not used Opera so I cannot comment on it.
Neo Avatars
QUOTE (Caboose @ Jun 26 2009, 04:11 PM) *
It's worth mentioning that you're the only one who likes Opera tongue.gif

No he's not - I use it as my third browser or for a browser with a quick startup (FF takes ~3 minutes to initially start up, IE is icky / slow and I don't like the tabs on Safari). tongue.gif

QUOTE (Arianna @ Jun 26 2009, 04:19 PM) *
@Topdog: isn't Flock just Mozilla with a hundred pimp-ups you will use scarcely if ever? tongue.gif

It also lets you offload FF addons which otherwise freeze it every now and again. biggrin.gif



The one thing that I love about FF / Flock is having the Grab and Drag addon, something that I've not found an equivalent for other browsers. Makes it so much easier to move around pages, you wonder how you cope without.

Chrome's one browser that I've not tried out and probably aught to since I'm sure it'll have a use.
Magical
I've being Firefox for around a month, but I'm definitely switching back to Safari. FF is so much slower and clunky in comparison... Flock is fun, but with all the addons running you only have around an inch of actual space.
Spirit Shield
i like firefox. i thouroghly dislike chrome however, you can hardly do any customising to it.
Cattius
QUOTE (goth fairy @ Jun 26 2009, 05:55 PM) *
i like firefox. i thouroghly dislike chrome however, you can hardly do any customising to it.

It is possible to change the skin, although you must change it back every time you update.

Customization is nice, but it isn't essential. If you just want a simple, fast browser with good security features and no frills, then Chrome does the job admirably.

QUOTE (Magical @ Jun 26 2009, 05:44 PM) *
I've being Firefox for around a month, but I'm definitely switching back to Safari. FF is so much slower and clunky in comparison... Flock is fun, but with all the addons running you only have around an inch of actual space.

Some browsers perform much better on certain operating systems because of the different ways the browser must be coded for each OS. For example, I prefer to use Safari on a Mac, but I find Safari for Windows to be horrible.
_Ej
I've used firefox for a few months, but decided to give Chrome another go, and its pretty good. I don't ever use many add ons or toolbars, nor do I customize web browsers, I like the 'Less is more approach', which chrome is.
Mudkip Hugger
I've tried IE, Opera, Chrome, FF, and my favorite is and always will be Safari.
Muttmuttinthebutt
Try whatever ones you want, I think most of 'em are free smile.gif
LightSlei
IE is pretty basic.
I like FF.
Never tried Opera.
And Chrome I didn't like for the one day I used it.
Muttmuttinthebutt
I hate IE with a passion. smile.gif
Day
I wouldn't suggest Chrome unless you are fine with just being speedy and nothing else. You can't really install toolbars or add-ons without messing with the browser file.

It is a good browser though. Fast. Easy to use.

I use FireFox, though. It seems to me that it is pretty fast (actually, I personally think it is a tie between Firefox and IE8 on speed (Chrome is better than both, though)), and it is very customizable. I think you should stick with Firefox.

QUOTE
I hate IE with a passion


I convinced you to stop using IE and use Firefox just a week ago, Mutt. laugh.gif
Muttmuttinthebutt
QUOTE (Day @ Jun 26 2009, 04:59 PM) *
I wouldn't suggest Chrome unless you are fine with just being speedy and nothing else. You can't really install toolbars or add-ons without messing with the browser file.

It is a good browser though. Fast. Easy to use.

I use FireFox, though. It seems to me that it is pretty fast (actually, I personally think it is a tie between Firefox and IE8 on speed (Chrome is better than both, though)), and it is very customizable. I think you should stick with Firefox.

QUOTE
I hate IE with a passion


I convinced you to stop using IE and use Firefox just a week ago, Mutt. laugh.gif

It's because a certain person showed me the error of my ways tongue.gif
Can't stop using FF now.
Grimm
Well I tried Opera - but it seems that Chrome has quite a big fanbase in this thread, so then I tried out Google Chrome. Found Chrome to be a tad more easier and more simpler than Opera - but my mind still could be swayed. As for Flock, I saw that and really didn't like it seeing as I'm not spending all my time on Facebook and whatnot.

I'm presuming NetScape has no fans?
havocdemonzkrew
Chrome is life.
It opens so fast and simple.
I have no plugins or addons so it's perfect.
Fast, reliable and slick.
Topdog
QUOTE (Life @ Jun 26 2009, 10:19 PM) *
I'm presuming NetScape has no fans?

Dude, what year do you think is, 2001? tongue.gif

My parents had it on their old, old notebook, and I haven't heard any news about it recently.
Muttmuttinthebutt
QUOTE (Life @ Jun 26 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Well I tried Opera - but it seems that Chrome has quite a big fanbase in this thread, so then I tried out Google Chrome. Found Chrome to be a tad more easier and more simpler than Opera - but my mind still could be swayed. As for Flock, I saw that and really didn't like it seeing as I'm not spending all my time on Facebook and whatnot.

I'm presuming NetScape has no fans?

You should stay with Firefox, decent, easy to use, and very easy to customize to your liking.
Kwinten
QUOTE (Mutt @ Jun 27 2009, 04:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Life @ Jun 26 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Well I tried Opera - but it seems that Chrome has quite a big fanbase in this thread, so then I tried out Google Chrome. Found Chrome to be a tad more easier and more simpler than Opera - but my mind still could be swayed. As for Flock, I saw that and really didn't like it seeing as I'm not spending all my time on Facebook and whatnot.

I'm presuming NetScape has no fans?

You should stay with Firefox, decent, easy to use, and very easy to customize to your liking.

And it's very resource heavy.
Cattius
QUOTE (Kwinten @ Jun 27 2009, 09:49 AM) *
And it's very resource heavy.

I wouldn't say it's that resource heavy. It doesn't use any more resources on my Windows 7 setup than IE8 or Google Chrome do. I can't judge it against Opera or Safari as I haven't got them on my computer yet - I might download them soon though and do a comparison between them all.
Besides, with today's modern computers resource consumption is no longer a major issue. It's only really something you think about if you have a poor spec.

QUOTE (Day)
I wouldn't suggest Chrome unless you are fine with just being speedy and nothing else. You can't really install toolbars or add-ons without messing with the browser file.

I know Chrome is lacking on the customisation front, but it has some impressive features, and the Google team are experimenting with some very interesting concepts, such as its approach to sandboxing.
Grimm
Well I'll stick to Firefox on one computer and continue with Chrome on the other.

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Dude, what year do you think is, 2001? tongue.gif

My parents had it on their old, old notebook, and I haven't heard any news about it recently.


I know some people who use it so I just assumed that others do too laugh.gif

On one note, IE seems to be getting a big hate-base...
Cattius
QUOTE (Life @ Jun 27 2009, 12:43 PM) *
Well I'll stick to Firefox on one computer and continue with Chrome on the other.
On one note, IE seems to be getting a big hate-base...

Yup. Everyone hates IE tongue.gif

Basically it has a very bad track record with IE6 and IE7...IE8 is a bit of an improvement but it's still bested by the competition.

EDIT: I mentioned resource usage in a previous post. Here's the resource usage of IE8, FF3 and Chrome 2 on my Windows 7 machine. Each browser has one window open, showing the main page of the Sals forum.

Google Chrome 2: 2 processes 48MB RAM 0% CPU
Internet Explorer 8: 2 processes 35MB RAM 1% CPU
Firefox 3: 1 process 49MB RAM 1% CPU

What is interesting is that, despite the fact IE8 seems to use less resources, it is noticeably slower than FF and Chrome when browsing pages. I didn't actually time the startup for each browser, but I judged Chrome to be significantly faster at starting up, and IE8 and FF to be roughly equal in startup time (however, bear in mind Chrome only had to load the New Tab page when I started it up, whereas IE8 and FF had to load Google). Also worth a mention is the fact that Firefox and Chrome loaded the Sals forum main page with no errors; IE8 reported an error loading an image.

As I said before, with modern computers resource usage is no longer a major issue, but I still found it interesting to compare the browsers.


EDIT EDIT: I installed Opera and Safari for Windows to compare them too.

Opera: 1 process 20MB RAM 0% CPU
Safari: 2 processes 130MB RAM 6% CPU

Safari doesn't seem to be exactly lightweight biggrin.gif
Both browsers loaded pages very fast, IMO at the same speed as Chrome, and faster than FF and IE8.
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