Sal's RuneScape Forum > Windows Security Issue

Sparhawke

Jul 7 2009, 12:54 PM

QUOTE

This was just announced. It's a 0 day vulnerability and is currently exploited by malicious sites using drive-by-downloads (shared via spam links, hacked sites, theoretically ads). All versions of Internet Explorer running on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 are affected.

It involves exploiting an ActiveX control related to video and unlike other 0 day flaws, the "bad guys" have already known about (and taking advantage of it) for at least a week.

Yeah, you could call this bad.

What you should do: If you have XP, stop using IE NOW or apply this temporary workaround. No fix is ready at this time through Windows Update.

AP article
MS Security Advisory

(This is simply a copy/paste from another forum I found it on, I am not the author)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972890

_Ej

Jul 7 2009, 12:56 PM

Another reason to not use IE, everyone is happy

LightSlei

Jul 7 2009, 01:06 PM

People still use IE?

_Ej

Jul 7 2009, 02:22 PM

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 06:06 PM)

People still use IE?

Indeed. I used it for way to long before finally moving to Firefox and then chrome, it was more a case of familiarity than anything else, firefox was all in the wrong place

. Once I got over that I was fine without IE.

Sports fan86

Jul 7 2009, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 02:06 PM)

People still use IE?

Lmfao, a lot of people still use IE (Internet Explorer).

redmonke

Jul 7 2009, 02:36 PM

People still use XP?

Diabba

Jul 7 2009, 02:44 PM

What is this IE you speak of?

~D

Darkeyes

Jul 7 2009, 02:51 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 02:36 PM)

People still use XP?

I still use XP.

redmonke

Jul 7 2009, 02:54 PM

QUOTE (Darkeyes @ Jul 7 2009, 02:51 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 02:36 PM)

People still use XP?

I still use XP.

I was kinda poking fun at Cxk.

Redicaluss

Jul 7 2009, 02:58 PM

Lawl, just another reason I have Chrome and Smart Securty 4. Norton fails.

Cattius

Jul 7 2009, 03:41 PM

With all the security issues surrounding IE, I don't understand why anyone who is even mildy clued-up about current tech would even CONSIDER using it (unless it's unavoidable, like at school where we can't use portable apps or install different browsers)

Chrome/Safari/Opera/Firefox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IE

Emo_Nemo

Jul 7 2009, 03:42 PM

Doesn't affect Vista so im fine

theking1322

Jul 7 2009, 04:07 PM

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Veni vidi vici

Jul 7 2009, 04:13 PM

IE is still supported by Microsoft? I didn't know...
Just another reason to use FF 3.5

~Vincent

LightSlei

Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

redmonke

Jul 7 2009, 04:32 PM

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

If she doesn't do it, delete the shortcut.

She'll never see it coming.

Redicaluss

Jul 7 2009, 11:05 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

If she doesn't do it, delete the shortcut.

She'll never see it coming.

If I did that I would get slapped.

redmonke

Jul 7 2009, 11:10 PM

QUOTE (Redicaluss Gen4 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:05 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

If she doesn't do it, delete the shortcut.

She'll never see it coming.

If I did that I would get slapped.

Just be all "uuuhhhh what shortcut"

LP Forever

Jul 7 2009, 11:21 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 02:36 PM)

People still use XP?

i'm converting my mom to Vista as we speak.

EDIT: This whole thing is also another reason everyone should switch to OS X

Cattius

Jul 8 2009, 02:24 AM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 8 2009, 05:10 AM)

QUOTE (Redicaluss Gen4 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:05 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

If she doesn't do it, delete the shortcut.

She'll never see it coming.

If I did that I would get slapped.

Just be all "uuuhhhh what shortcut"

Even better, put a FF shortcut on the desktop, rename it Internet Explorer and change the icon to the IE logo

I used that on my friend once. It took him 2 weeks to notice

@lpforever: I would happily use OS X if Macs were cheaper

Some of us can't afford to pay $1500 for a Mac when you get a Windows computer with a better spec for hundreds of dollars less. /rant

redmonke

Jul 8 2009, 02:35 AM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Jul 8 2009, 02:24 AM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 8 2009, 05:10 AM)

QUOTE (Redicaluss Gen4 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:05 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE (Cxkslei @ Jul 7 2009, 04:26 PM)

QUOTE (theking1322 @ Jul 7 2009, 05:07 PM)

My mom still uses IE no matter how many times I told her about the problems with it.

Install a different browser, and tell her she has to use it

.

If she doesn't do it, delete the shortcut.

She'll never see it coming.

If I did that I would get slapped.

Just be all "uuuhhhh what shortcut"

Even better, put a FF shortcut on the desktop, rename it Internet Explorer and change the icon to the IE logo

I used that on my friend once. It took him 2 weeks to notice

@lpforever: I would happily use OS X if Macs were cheaper

Some of us can't afford to pay $1500 for a Mac when you get a Windows computer with a better spec for hundreds of dollars less. /rant

Hey, that's a good idea.

Get the IE skin, move around some buttons, do what you said. BAM.

I should do it sometime.

Kaibamanjrs

Jul 8 2009, 08:23 AM

I believe the two trojans I found on my mothers computer may have been caused by this. she hasn't downloaded anything and she has been using IE (even though firefox is installed).

On a side note, I was trying to check milw0rm to see if it was posted there for a while, and the page isnt loading. milw0rm is down?

redmonke

Jul 8 2009, 04:15 PM

The best way to get your parents/sibling to use Firefox is to show them the themes. That way they'll get the look they want.

That's what I did for my family.

King Aragorn

Jul 8 2009, 04:37 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 7 2009, 09:36 PM)

People still use XP?

That hurts to read..

(No, i dont read in the chubby font..)
You think we are extinct?

I used XP and IE all since Saturday.
No virus here..

(And i see im exactly in the blink for the virus)

But.. i still have possibility to use the annoying FireFox.. (It shows annoying messages about updates all the time.. tired of it)
I think i stick with the quick IE.
Its much faster then FF on my computer.

Cattius

Jul 9 2009, 11:32 AM

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Jul 8 2009, 10:37 PM)

But.. i still have possibility to use the annoying FireFox.. (It shows annoying messages about updates all the time.. tired of it)
I think i stick with the quick IE.
Its much faster then FF on my computer.

FF has very few update messages...You just get them maybe once or twice a day if you have lots of add-ons installed, if that. You can turn them off, anyway. Just go to Tools>Options>Advanced>Update and uncheck all the boxes under 'Automatically check for updates to:'.
And IE? Quick? IE7 and IE8 are the slowest internet browsers I've ever used, and I've tried a fair few.

King Aragorn

Jul 9 2009, 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Jul 9 2009, 06:32 PM)

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Jul 8 2009, 10:37 PM)

But.. i still have possibility to use the annoying FireFox.. (It shows annoying messages about updates all the time.. tired of it)
I think i stick with the quick IE.
Its much faster then FF on my computer.

FF has very few update messages...You just get them maybe once or twice a day if you have lots of add-ons installed, if that. You can turn them off, anyway. Just go to Tools>Options>Advanced>Update and uncheck all the boxes under 'Automatically check for updates to:'.
And IE? Quick? IE7 and IE8 are the slowest internet browsers I've ever used, and I've tried a fair few.

For MY computer IE is faster, FF uses a minute to start, while IE uses 15 secs.
Thats because i use IE more, and cache the pages.

Cattius

Jul 9 2009, 02:27 PM

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 PM)

For MY computer IE is faster, FF uses a minute to start, while IE uses 15 secs.
Thats because i use IE more, and cache the pages.

What version of FF do you have? There shouldn't be such a big difference unless you have hundreds of FF add-ons installed.
Anyway, if you're happy with IE, then you're happy with it. I'll leave it at that, I was just surprised you found IE to be faster.

Egghebrecht

Jul 10 2009, 02:08 AM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Jul 9 2009, 08:27 PM)

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 PM)

For MY computer IE is faster, FF uses a minute to start, while IE uses 15 secs.
Thats because i use IE more, and cache the pages.

What version of FF do you have? There shouldn't be such a big difference unless you have hundreds of FF add-ons installed.
Anyway, if you're happy with IE, then you're happy with it. I'll leave it at that, I was just surprised you found IE to be faster.

it was the same for me on my old computer, FF3 takes a lot more system resources then IE or his previous versions

Mini

Jul 10 2009, 02:10 AM

That's why I use a Mac.

King Aragorn

Jul 10 2009, 05:22 AM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Jul 9 2009, 08:27 PM)

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Jul 9 2009, 08:19 PM)

For MY computer IE is faster, FF uses a minute to start, while IE uses 15 secs.
Thats because i use IE more, and cache the pages.

What version of FF do you have? There shouldn't be such a big difference unless you have hundreds of FF add-ons installed.
Anyway, if you're happy with IE, then you're happy with it. I'll leave it at that, I was just surprised you found IE to be faster.

Well, i downloaded at the last big release, not 3.5 though.
I dont have many add-ons either, only some from other apps i have installed.
I have many add-ons installed in IE too. (They come from other apps i have, like RealPlayer, Orbit and others.)

I like the look of IE too, its slim. (I have no other toolbars..

i hate 3rd party toolbars..)

And i use IE8, so dont think im nostalgic..

Cattius

Jul 10 2009, 10:42 AM

QUOTE (Egghebrecht @ Jul 10 2009, 08:08 AM)

it was the same for me on my old computer, FF3 takes a lot more system resources then IE or his previous versions

I know I said I wouldn't continue this IE thing...

I just wanted to give you the results I got when I tested the resource usage of the major browsers a few weeks back. Here they are:

Google Chrome 2: 2 processes 48MB RAM 0% CPU
Internet Explorer 8: 2 processes 35MB RAM 1% CPU
Firefox 3: 1 process 49MB RAM 1% CPU
Opera: 1 process 20MB RAM 0% CPU
Safari: 2 processes 130MB RAM 6% CPU

IE does use less RAM than FF, but only 13MB less. I wouldn't consider that a substantial amount at all on a modern computer. But perhaps on your computers FF uses more resources (there are a number of reasons why it might).

QUOTE (Mini @ Jul 10 2009, 08:10 AM)

That's why I use a Mac.

Macs get viruses too you know, you're not invulnerable