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Falcon
I won't post this in the Team Forums because I want to get a wide opinion here. Please post your opinion in the pole on wether we should add the said change to the cast, or post another option. Also try and read the opinions I wrote before voting in the poll.

QUOTE (Topdog)
[b]1. Better recording program.

I support this. Why not get like two people with good recording devises that can be there every time to record so that it doesn't get confusing and we always know where to get the recordings, and that they'll turn out good.

QUOTE (Topdog)
2. Get rid of some of the inside jokes.

I support this as well. We need to avoid that at all costs. I think the fact that SC13 was our first non-script cast had something to do with it. Hopefully, this issue will be resolved in the future Salcasts.

QUOTE (Topdog)
3. Better microphones for some hosts.

I support this, but it may be a problem seeing as the hosts may not be able to afford them sad.gif

QUOTE (Topdog)
4. Limit the amount of music that is playing.

I kind of support this (in a way), but music provides a good filler, and thousands of podcasts have music. Maybe we could turn it down a bit? I don't think completely eliminating it would be a good idea, but we could do other things... Any ideas?

QUOTE (Topdog)
5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.

Full support here, they (I'm saying "they" because I didn't host apart from the Runecast, and I am no giggler, as you probably noticed) need to keep that under very close tabs.
lilshu
As for the music, if we keep it, I think it needs to be more suited for the background. Not something like Journey. Something quiet. Maybe even instrumental. Something to keep things moving, without detracting attention.
redmonke
If you have a headset, keep it a few inches away from your mouth, that way you're not accidentally bumping it.

I record with my laptop's microphone, I don't know the quality of it, if you could fill me in, that'd be great.

And for instrumental, I'm up for LOTR music. biggrin.gif
Falcon
QUOTE (redmonke @ Jul 15 2009, 11:05 PM) *
If you have a headset, keep it a few inches away from your mouth, that way you're not accidentally bumping it.

I record with my laptop's microphone, I don't know the quality of it, if you could fill me in, that'd be great.


Your mic quality is well above average biggrin.gif
LightSlei
Instrumental music would be nice because usually it's more of a mood setting then anything else, and people can't really complain about it being a genre.
Sofee
I voted 'Yes' for everything, except the last one (picked option 3).

About the headset, if I move it away from my mouth, then you guys won't be able to hear me.
One
Nothing is really better for discussion than Skype. If you can find a better program to use which we can record with then that's something that could very easily change. I wouldn't start blaming the software though, even in quality is terrible, at the end of the day people don't like the things we talked about. Quality can be refined smile.gif.

The inside jokes are a terrible thing, I don't think they happen as much as everyone is claiming but they do happen. I'll tend to laugh at pretty much anything, as people have noticed. This will stop, but i'm getting confused with messages here. Some people who know me and the team a little better loved the cast and was laughing along with it. It could be down to the personality, either way I'll find a way to cut down the laughing. Please note, laughing is good for you!

As for better microphones, I can understand this being quite the problem. I'm willing to buy every host a £20-30 microphone, if their quality is a little bit off. I can understand how frustrating it must be to have a bad quality microphone. I myself just picked up one for £100 because I was so annoyed. So yeah, if someone wants a microphone, I'll provide them with one.

Music - If they don't like the music then get rid of it, or we will keep it low and lyricless. Not much to debate with this one, it's only music.
Easl

1. Better recording program.
I thought it was fine actualy, it did seem as if you were actually having a convo

b]2. Get rid of some of the inside jokes.[/b]
I don't see what was wrong with it really, I don't think it disrupted the show

3. Better microphones for some hosts.
I agree, it annoyed me how I couldn't understand Desireful

4. Limit the amount of music that is playing.
Why not put in music that doesn't have any lyrics...?

5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.
If a girl did it, I don't think people would mind tongue.gif


Just another idea, you lost some of the structure, I felt that as Fatal was present in all the areas of the show it felt like it lacked structure, maybe let some of the hosts do some parts of the show, it would be easier to follow less people in a convo.
Sofee
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it would be easier to follow less people in a convo.


That's a good idea. With the amount of hosts we currently have, we could take turns, different timezones every time, not just the same old boring hosts tongue.gif

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5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.
If a girl did it, I don't think people would mind tongue.gif


Toastie, we're officially excused tongue.gif
Easl
QUOTE (Sofee @ Jul 16 2009, 04:15 AM) *
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it would be easier to follow less people in a convo.


That's a good idea. With the amount of hosts we currently have, we could take turns, different timezones every time, not just the same old boring hosts tongue.gif

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5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.
If a girl did it, I don't think people would mind tongue.gif


Toastie, we're officially excused tongue.gif


oh yeh, and the Dani interview is a good example, very very enjoyable because you had two people, good mikes and an intresting topic. I think doing more of these would be a good idea and if they don't have mikes just do what you did with dani smile.gif
Falcon
New pole option added for the music suggestion: Make the music light or instrumental, not some heavy metal song.

QUOTE (Fatalysm)
Nothing is really better for discussion than Skype. If you can find a better program to use which we can record with then that's something that could very easily change. I wouldn't start blaming the software though, even in quality is terrible, at the end of the day people don't like the things we talked about. Quality can be refined smile.gif.

I think I actually misunderstood him (Topdog) here. Yes, there is really nothing better than Skype, but I think it would be a great idea to have like... two designated people to record every time (and one backup), so things don't get mixed up and confusing.

QUOTE (Fatakysm)
The inside jokes are a terrible thing, I don't think they happen as much as everyone is claiming but they do happen. I'll tend to laugh at pretty much anything, as people have noticed. This will stop, but i'm getting confused with messages here. Some people who know me and the team a little better loved the cast and was laughing along with it. It could be down to the personality, either way I'll find a way to cut down the laughing. Please note, laughing is good for you!

I agree that it was not only you, and a lot of people laugh a lot. But I think we should just cut it back a little, and not make it high pitched and like five seconds long. Just a short chuckle.

QUOTE (Fatalysm)
As for better microphones, I can understand this being quite the problem. I'm willing to buy every host a £20-30 microphone, if their quality is a little bit off. I can understand how frustrating it must be to have a bad quality microphone. I myself just picked up one for £100 because I was so annoyed. So yeah, if someone wants a microphone, I'll provide them with one.

That's ]extremely kind and thoughtful of you- but how exactly would you get them to the hosts that need better mics, you'd need their address and I doubt most of them would supply it. I do hope this ides falls through, because it is a great one, and they do need better mics.

QUOTE (Fatalysm)
Music - If they don't like the music then get rid of it, or we will keep it low and lyricless. Not much to debate with this one, it's only music.

I think we should stick to soft, instrumental, classical, etc. music when we are hosting, that seems to be the wish, and I can't see any problem with that. There are plenty soft/instrumental songs out there that are just great.
Neo Avatars
QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 03:53 AM) *
QUOTE (Topdog)
[b]1. Better recording program.

I support this. Why not get like two people with good recording devises that can be there every time to record so that it doesn't get confusing and we always know where to get the recordings, and that they'll turn out good.

If you only have two people, it'd lower the opinions that are brought into a discussion. When chatting IRL, it's much more common to have half a dozen people talking together than being split up into pairs.

QUOTE (Topdog)
2. Get rid of some of the inside jokes.

What inside jokes? Maybe it's just British humour, but I wouldn't call anything said an 'inside joke'. unsure.gif

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QUOTE (Topdog)
3. Better microphones for some hosts.

I support this, but it may be a problem seeing as the hosts may not be able to afford them sad.gif

Doddsy said his mic cost, what, £3? Unless other people were listening to a different recording to the one I heard, I could still understand all of what he was saying, though maybe that's just my natural cheapskate coming into play and that the one I have knocking around somewhere cost ~£5 a decade ago. tongue.gif

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QUOTE (Topdog)
5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.

Full support here, they (I'm saying "they" because I didn't host apart from the Runecast, and I am no giggler, as you probably noticed) need to keep that under very close tabs.

I didn't have a problem with it and felt it created a more 'natural' feel - 'tis similar to a large number of things on TV I watch where it's recorded with a live audience that responds (laughs / giggles / titters) to what's being said, just the 'audience' here are the hosts.

QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 02:16 PM) *
New pole option added for the music suggestion: Make the music light or instrumental, not some heavy metal song.

I'd rather have 'some heavy metal song' than something 'light', finding that the lyrics blend in better with the music to create an overall feel. box.gif ...though instrumental is better than anything with lyrics as background noise.

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I think we should stick to soft, instrumental, classical, etc. music when we are hosting, that seems to be the wish, and I can't see any problem with that. There are plenty soft/instrumental songs out there that are just great.

OR... have no music in the background, then people can choose some sort of other music and play it in the background at a low noise setting if they want to. ohmy.gif (at least when playing it on a computer)
Falcon
QUOTE (Neo Avatars @ Jul 16 2009, 09:48 AM) *
QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 03:53 AM) *
QUOTE (Topdog)
[b]1. Better recording program.

I support this. Why not get like two people with good recording devises that can be there every time to record so that it doesn't get confusing and we always know where to get the recordings, and that they'll turn out good.

If you only have two people, it'd lower the opinions that are brought into a discussion. When chatting IRL, it's much more common to have half a dozen people talking together than being split up into pairs.


I meant two people (one in each session) who is recording the discussions between the hosts, not just two people talking.
Easl
QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 10:05 AM) *
QUOTE (Neo Avatars @ Jul 16 2009, 09:48 AM) *
QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 03:53 AM) *
QUOTE (Topdog)
[b]1. Better recording program.

I support this. Why not get like two people with good recording devises that can be there every time to record so that it doesn't get confusing and we always know where to get the recordings, and that they'll turn out good.

If you only have two people, it'd lower the opinions that are brought into a discussion. When chatting IRL, it's much more common to have half a dozen people talking together than being split up into pairs.


I meant two people (one in each session) who is recording the discussions between the hosts, not just two people talking.

I think 3 hosts would be the right amount though, this episode felt crowded pfft.gif
Topdog
QUOTE (Fatalysm @ Jul 16 2009, 03:13 AM) *
Nothing is really better for discussion than Skype. If you can find a better program to use which we can record with then that's something that could very easily change. I wouldn't start blaming the software though, even in quality is terrible, at the end of the day people don't like the things we talked about. Quality can be refined smile.gif.

Here's a quote from Simple:
QUOTE (Simple)
As with most podcasts involving multiple people you have one basic problem: Sound levels of those involved. One is talking very loudly while the other can be barely heard. Skype offers two channels: Get the ones with a low level on one channel, the loud ones on the other, then boost the low level ones to the loud ones. Not ideal but better than this.

http://runescape.salmoneus.net/forums/inde...t&p=3338362


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The inside jokes are a terrible thing, I don't think they happen as much as everyone is claiming but they do happen. I'll tend to laugh at pretty much anything, as people have noticed. This will stop, but i'm getting confused with messages here. Some people who know me and the team a little better loved the cast and was laughing along with it. It could be down to the personality, either way I'll find a way to cut down the laughing. Please note, laughing is good for you!

And so is smiling. But, as many people in the announcement topic have mentioned, the laughing gets really annoying.

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Music - If they don't like the music then get rid of it, or we will keep it low and lyricless. Not much to debate with this one, it's only music.

Instrumentals, slightly lower volume. That's my opinion.



QUOTE (Neo Avatars @ Jul 16 2009, 09:48 AM) *
QUOTE (Topdog)
2. Get rid of some of the inside jokes.

What inside jokes? Maybe it's just British humour, but I wouldn't call anything said an 'inside joke'. unsure.gif

Maybe not everyone's British? tongue.gif

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QUOTE (Topdog)
3. Better microphones for some hosts.

Doddsy said his mic cost, what, £3? Unless other people were listening to a different recording to the one I heard, I could still understand all of what he was saying, though maybe that's just my natural cheapskate coming into play and that the one I have knocking around somewhere cost ~£5 a decade ago. tongue.gif

I particularly didn't mind with the mics, I just based my list off of what other people have said. However, it got slightly annoying sometimes whenever someone bumped into their mic or breathed into it.

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QUOTE (Topdog)
5. Don't giggle every five seconds at awkward moments.

I didn't have a problem with it and felt it created a more 'natural' feel - 'tis similar to a large number of things on TV I watch where it's recorded with a live audience that responds (laughs / giggles / titters) to what's being said, just the 'audience' here are the hosts.

Except nothing funny was going on, and there was a giggle every five to ten seconds.

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QUOTE (Falconilize @ Jul 16 2009, 02:16 PM) *
New pole option added for the music suggestion: Make the music light or instrumental, not some heavy metal song.

I'd rather have 'some heavy metal song' than something 'light', finding that the lyrics blend in better with the music to create an overall feel. box.gif ...though instrumental is better than anything with lyrics as background noise.

Music like heavy metal is distracting.

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QUOTE
I think we should stick to soft, instrumental, classical, etc. music when we are hosting, that seems to be the wish, and I can't see any problem with that. There are plenty soft/instrumental songs out there that are just great.

OR... have no music in the background, then people can choose some sort of other music and play it in the background at a low noise setting if they want to. ohmy.gif (at least when playing it on a computer)

OR... have no music at all, but only in the beginning and end of the podcast. Just like popular podcasts such as Mugglecast, Diggnation, and from this site, the TMZ. Yeah, okay, Fatalysm said that the music currently serves as a filler and it breaks up discussion. But like I said before, why depend on music to break up discussion? Look at the podcasts I mentioned, listen to them, and see how they move from one discussion to another.
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