Why would you like to upgrade to vBulletin?
Well, IPB miiight look sexy, but it doesn't have allot on it

Vb has:
User comments
Advanced PM
More mods
Better admincp
IMPEX (allows you to transfer)
CHEAPER

You can get an owned license for 200$, a yearly renewable for 100$

You use IMPEX to transfer everything, nothing lost.

It's really up to Sal himself.

I like IPB, though. Very simple and efficient, and I was never really fond of vBulletin and its forum layout. And I'm sure that when we upgrade to IPB 3 in a short matter of time, it'll have everything that you mentioned vBulletin has.

We would probably loose the blogs, hiscores and tutorials as they have different mods to vBulletin, and it would just be a waste of time.

vBulletin is very insecure.

Indeed, but you can change the theme



No, it can be inserted in VBACMS
Blog can be bought


I use vB, 32 hack attempts 32 failed.
And all the XSS flaws have been worked out, so there should be no problem

So does IP.Board, but Sal disabled the new profile system which includes it.


IP.Board 3 takes a whole new approach to the PM system, and is very advanced compared to what we have now.


Not only are they a necessary evil, but were operating fine with the modifications we have.


That's down to personal opinion and the admins here know how to use the ACP IP.Board has, so it'd be easier to stick with this.


I don't know anything about IMPEX, but I'm willing to bet it wouldn't transfer the data from the custom modifications and blogs fully.


No it's not. Sal would need to spend $180 on a license, and then $40 a year to keep it updated. With IP.Board, he is only paying $50 a year for updates, as he has already paid for the software.

Overall, I can't see it being advantageous in any way.

Has been possible for a while, but was disabled for various reasons.


In IPB3 (at least an updated PM system).


What extra things are needed? All I can see is requiring our ~dozen custom ones to be modified to work properly... how totally pointless.


There's only one problem I can see with the IPB ACP and it's not normally a hindrance.


Unless I'm misreading, yearly renewal for IPB is $50, while vBulletin is $40 (plus the $180 to buy it). That means that you're looking at a decade and a half before it becomes cheaper - not enough to make it a reason to change.

So... why?

I've got vBulletin on my forums and let me tell you if it's my opinion then Invision Power Board gets the vote. It's clean and usable, any functions it doesn't have that are necessary to have in our case is generally available in the the ways of modification. Not only is this clean and easy, it's also stupid proof which i think is something vBulletin needs to work on ! At the end of the day though it's up to Salmoneus to make changes, although I'm sure if the public was against this forum type and they were willing to pay to change then you may get your wish. But for now it's easier to think that Salmoneus will eventually be getting around to upgrading to 3.0.1 of IPB. He doesn't have to pay for the upgrades either !

I use vB on the forums I admin on, I find it is alot better for things that Sals really doesnt need like certain mods for trading online etc. Also to the post that says that the vB ACP is better is mistaken, the IPB ACP is much, much simpler.

No point, I mean there's a IPB update coming soon that can probably get like half of the things you've mentioned.

~D

Another forum I use has IPB3 and it has all those features you mention.

Upgrade to Vbulletin? More like a step backwards.

Purely out of curiosity, but what is this problem?

Jamster has access.

I look forward to Sal's converting to IPB3 and I agree with Reno in that converting to VBulletin would be a step backward. Although converting from IPB 2.3.X to 3.0.X will be a pretty big change, it will still have some similarities that we're all used to. Changing between two completely different systems would be harder to adjust for the community overall. People typically don't like change and even updating to IPB3 will have some haters, even if they don't come out and say it. I, for one, am excited.

Not a good thing - you need an intelligent community for anything advanced.

<insert fake reprimand about not joking about other people that is actually an expression of resentment for having beat me at that joke here>

Like blogs, profiles, etc...

Why is it necessary to update at all?

Just belive me, only the ones that used vbulletin can know how it is.

I can set an admin panel demo up for the people who want to try it out.

Sorry but I also see transferring to vBulletin as a downgrade from what it is now . Why bother? Especially when the majority of users are against vBulletin in the first place, you seem to just be pushing your own agenda to make it transfer instead of recognizing a lost cause .

I've used vBulletin, and have made my judgement based on that. I'll admit to of only having a little use of the Admin CP but that I think, Neo has covered.

I really like IP.Board. I also saw the new features for IP.Board 3 and it looks excellent. I hope we stay with IP.Board and I don't support the switch to VBulletin.

Does anyone know when Sal will be upgrade to IP.Board 3?

I just went on the Admin control panel in Ipb3 and it sucks. We should just stay with 2.x. vB would be a step backwards

Last I heard, Sal was waiting for version 3.0.2, which was just released on Thursday. I'm sure he's working to convert the highscores system, his custom board styles, and then the other systems and features.

IPB Is Great right now... I don't see much of a reason to change it... Does it even matter to change it?

vBulletin is rubbish; I'm a member a few forums that use it. Epic lag on all of them.

Sals is fine the way it is.

IPB is great, why would Sal want to change it to Vbulletin?