QUOTE (Agent F @ Aug 27 2009, 07:25 PM)

QUOTE (Magi1074 @ Aug 27 2009, 05:51 PM)

QUOTE (cjgone @ Aug 10 2009, 08:08 PM)

It actually takes effort to learn Javascript unlike HTML. Not simple markup stuff-- JS is "real" programming.
Depends on your standard. Technically it is, but its pretty watered down compared to Java, C/C++, or ASP.NET
By definition, JavaScript is programming. It sets variables and performs calculations to manipulate variables. JavaScript has a purpose and isn't expected to have large boundaries like Java and C++. I agree with the later half of Cjgone's comment.
I know Javascript is real programming by definition, I just don't consider it to be "real" according to my standards. I admit, its useful to use to create all types of webpage wonders

, but I'm a serious Java programmer myself, and I work with many other serious programmers, so Javascript is not "real" as in, dynamic, sophisticated, and complex as some languages like C++.