Yeah, new computer requires new wallpaper. The old one I had was awesome, but I can't use it anymore.

Size: 1600*900
Text: Kemosabe
Main colors: Hmm... Judging by the render.. I'd say electric blue or something of that type.
Render: http://planetrenders.net/renders/displayimage.php?pos=-19964

Feel free to go all out with this one. Any help is greatly appreciated.

i'd help but i can't rite now since im at my mums house, if i get the time (and remember) il get rite on it


^there you go all done, if you want me too change something just tell me!

Just a reminder., Double posting is not allowed, although this was an accident.
and nice picture

Can you say wannabe mod?



Don't save it in .JPG. You've lost so much quality, it's not funny. Try another image uploading site if your size is too large. (here's a hint for image saving - use .PNG whenever you can. If you must use .JPG (such as trying to follow Sal's image size restrictions), use the highest quality .JPG you can afford.

Jpeg > all(minus transparency)

Hahaha, no. You're an idiot. .JPG images are lossy (which means they lose a lot of quality). .PNG images are nearer to lossless, which means better images. Infact, there is support for animated .PNG's coming sometime in the near future (not that it'd be really worth doing. Animated pictures are the bane of my existence). I suggest you do some research to base your opinions on.

okay, first of all, don't flame, no need to call someone an idiot just because they don't use a file size you apparently hate.

2nd of all, in my opinion, there generally the same to me, ive saved in both and they seem like the same quality.

1. What is this, did you just make up your own words? Honestly in my career i've never heard these words haha.
2. If you're going to flame someone and ACT as if you're above them, use real words. Dont be a kid.
3. Do some research before you try to flame someone.
4. Depending on the ways you save it, your programming, and skillz, Jpegs can come out with a very nice resolution and color variation. Such as the .PNG File does.

All and all aside, I thought i'd give it a go.
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My Result:

I like a challenge.



Then I suggest you do some researching then.



See above. I do research.



And obviously you don't. If you had, you'd know what lossy and lossless.



Yes, true. It's helped me with the Sal's image size restrictions countless times. But to the general user, it will often come out with bad everything.



This is flaming? I'd call this more debating. I can give you flaming if you want.

I don't particularly hate .JPG. It is quite useful (I often have to save really large images, and sometimes .PNG produces file sizes over 100MB), but in the case I was 'flaming' about the .JPG saving caused it to lose a lot of quality. And .JPG is not greater than everything else (for obvious reasons).

If I saved that image in .PNG, and then in .JPG, you'd notice the difference. Just like low quality music and high quality music.

this is gotten a bit off hand, lol wish i didnt save in JPG now...

It's okay. You've got to learn from experience.

Your freaking 13 years old, and your trying to debate with older people witch absolutely no English writing skills. You left almost every sentence as a run-on or, an incomplete sentence. Your insulting people, which is never a good way to win a debate, but it may be effective if you want people to dislike you. On top of all that your throwing words that just dont exist into your debate making you look more unconvincing. Lossy is not a word, and nor is lossless. The proper way to say what you were unconvincingly trying to say is ".JPG images are 'leaky'," for the first error. For the second one I would see it better fit as "PNG images seem to lose less(space there and no double s on lose, just doesnt fit the sentence.)."

I personally have been messing arround with graphics since you were probably 5 or 6. I enjoy having debates but if you are going to debate, please get your facts in order, and maybe write this all in Microsoft word so you can spell check while your at it, and dont insult people. Insulting people during a debate is a sure way to end up in you losing it.

In my personal Experience, JPG has seemed to hold better quality compared to PNG on many occasions, but PNG has other times out-done JPG on its own. It really just depends on how the image is going to be used. In the case that we are argueing about(for this desktop images) JPG will do just fine because there is no 'File size limit' and he can save at a much higher quality than if he were to use it here.

Mr. Smarty pants, aren't you?

You obviously have no fudgeing idea how this works. PNG saves all colors known to computers, but not all of those colors are seen by the human eye. When you save as a JPG at highest settings, you'll get all the colors that the human eye can see, meaning no color loss or discoloration.

Get your facts straight.

Dude, I'm all for jpg, but don't pull the age card lol. Your only 17, don't think you can pull it just yet

.JPG is a great format, if you have the correct program to save it with. (I.E. Paint is a terrible way. IT is AUTO preset and you can't change it's quality.)





If he's learned anything, it wouldn't be from you. Try not to act so childish and pompus. Honestly, it's annoying.
I have yet to see any design skills from you. All I see is you talkin Sh**.

Adam im not saying im an Old man, but I'm pulling the age card due to the fact of these reasons:
1) Proper English helps win debates, making up fake words does not(This relates to age because as being 13 hes learning how to write 1 page essays, and learning vocabulary like 'aquadic' while im writing 3 pages essays in propper format learning words like 'Pathos'.)
2) Maturity levels.
3) Patience.

I dont play the age game to completely discredit someone, I play it to show and teach them something. If this is going to end up a flame war between us, I'll gladly step out because its quite childish to be throwing rude comments towards one another over this pathetic arguement. Only reason I pulled a counter-arguement in the first place was to help him/her understand my point of view and maybe enlighten his. I have the patience to help him understand, and the Maturity to avoid pissing contests. If he wants to take the time and see the logic then there it is, but if all he wants to do is insult me, then by all means piss away.

If you had noticed, he didn't save the .JPG at the highest settings. When .JPG compresses an image, it starts to convert blocks that are of a similar colour into one larger block of the same colour. It's because the human eye doesn't distinguish every single colour in the image. He saved it at a lower quality, so it started to go blocky, as you can see (especially around the text).

I think that here can give a fairly good visual example on how .JPG images compress.



What the hell? I'm not 13, I'm 14. I don't believe that my age should have anything to do with the quality of images. From a first glance, your English skills don't look top notch either. 'witch absolutely no English writing skills'? I believe that you're the one in dire need of a spellchecker. When I sent that first post, I had no intention of a debate. Now look where I am.

What on earth is with people who haven't heard of lossy and lossless? Is Google too hard to use? I've found that, so far, an audio site has given me the best example to use to explain what both of them are. Let me introduce you to lossy and lossless.

If you've been 'messing around with graphics' since I was about 5 or 6, you'd know what both of those words mean. Perhaps you'd even stop calling it graphics, and call it digital art! I've been learning, researching, and even going as far as teaching some things for about 4 years now.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to convey in your last paragraph. For desktop wallpapers, they generally should be saved in the best quality possible. In relation to my last post, .JPG is not the best quality format to be used for this kind of image. .PNG would be better, or .BMP.

(Oh, and on a side note, it was rather late at night. I had quite a few things on my mind, and unfortunately this topic wasn't high priority)



You get a thumbs up from me.



I have yet to see any design skills from you either. Your signature could have been considerably better. You've put on some grunge brushes, highlighted a few of them, maybe smudged some a little bit. Maybe read some more tutorials?

If you really must, I've put some of my older stuff here.



1) Proper English does, and I don't use fake words. I've been in enough arguments with people to know that before I start, I need my facts straight. I'm 14, and I'm not learning words like aquatic. I write my essays in proper format, I use proper English, and they're nearly always more than that one page marker you've set.
2) You're obviously not very mature if you need to use the age card.
3) I'm rather patient. You ask anyone that knows me and they'll say I'm patient. I've taken the time to read all of your comments, comprehend them, come up with replies to them and then proof read through them.

You can't say that just because you're older than me, you're smarter than me. Knowledge isn't intelligence.

Nice job, you did your research and wrote a great response. Good counter-arguement, only problem I see is your links for the so called words 'lossy' and 'lossless' are from a wiki website. Wiki websites are amazing for getting started on information, but they are generally not accepted as resources for just about anything. As I'm sure you know, wiki websites let all members edit the webpages, so that its not always reliable. If you perhaps linked a creditable dictionary website link, or found it in an actually dictionary and posted the scanned or photoed page I'd be more inclined to beleive you.

All this being said, I have no intentions of further discussing any of this because this is a graphics forum(yes digital art is still graphics). If you would like to continue this discussion, by all means, send me a Private Message.

As i said earlier, I scanned over your page. And i still stand having yet to see any skills developed on that webpage. C4d? Yawn. Anyone can copy and past someone elses 3d/2d render and color it.
-If those were in your portfolio, I personally wouldn't hire you based upon your work.
--Not only by your work, but you communication skills with other peoples are terrible. OUCH.





Actually, it is. AHHAHAHAHHAH, you're a joke kid. Just stop posting and go read a dictionary or something.