The subtitle is for humor only. For the record.

So today in science class I was actually awake and giving a shizzle about the lecture, and the professor was talking about cosmology today. He brought up an interesting point.

There is no generally accepted cosmology, aside from the Big Bang. As in, a -centrism cosmology. The most likely between geocentrism and heliocentrism is not certain, because each have a good amount of evidence in favor of them.

So, which cosmology do you think is true, and why?

I believe in the geocentric theory because it just feels right to me.

the sun is the centre of the solar system, our solar system is somewhere at the edge of our milkyway, the centre of the milky way is a black hole and there is no real centre of the universe, as it's, aprerently, still growing



"The most likely between geocentrism and heliocentrism is not certain, because each have a good amount of evidence in favor of them."

which evidence do you have for geocentrism besides the bible, the work from an old greek man and midievle priests

1. The stars appear in the night sky to be uniform in all directions.
2. All (visible) constellations appear the same at all times.
3. The brightness of Venus is constant.

No, as I stated, it hardly makes geocentrism an acceptable or certain view. But it would suggest that heliocentrism isn't perfect. Hell, most scientists would say that as much as they embrace heliocentrism, it's not got much more evidence than geocentrism. Based on the data, yes, it makes more sense.

But more updated views on geocentrism make more sense than the classical geocentric view.

1. don't know what you mean with that
2. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...s_%26_Orion.gif <-you call that at same time?
3. I don't see why it's a problem in heliocentrism?

the evidence is quite... lame...
if you have an apple in the hand and stop holding it, you can say that either it felt down... or that the earth moved up....


nonono, i'm not saying heliocentrism is 100% wrong, but geocentrism is 100% wrong, that's my point actually

Where does the Bible say the Earth is the center of the universe?

Because everyone seems to think that.

Well, the sun does turn around the Earth if you take the Earth as the reference point

I think it's one of those random things the Catholic Church decided somewhere between 300 and 1500 AD that everyone assumes the Bible says even though it doesn't.

Although it could be a metaphor like "the four corners of the earth," idk.

Yeah. The references cited for it are not very strong. It sounds more like ancient people didn't quite get it.

That's the fault with the Bible, imo. It's not necessarily false but not really true either in some cases :\

Geocentrism is one example.

I'm confused. Does or doesn't the Bible say anything about the earth being the center of the universe?

It does and it doesn't.

The thing is, the Bible was spoken by God but people were a bit backwards in them days. So their understanding was that the Earth was the center. The Bible never says that God put the Earth in the center, so many INTELLIGENT Christians do not believe in geocentrism.

Are we debating whether the Earth is the center of the universe or not???

I believe the earth revolves around me, the sun revolves around me, and the milky way revolves around me. And I believe the universe is constantly shrinking and in 2012 the world will end and the universe will be so small its matter will explode into another big bang. Selfcentrism.

Ok no...I actually believe we revolve around the sun. And the bible is thousands of years old and is obviously outdated about the entire earth-sun thing.
For starters, the sun is huge and the earth is small. It is much more likely we rotate around the sun.

Then what does it have to do with the Bible in the first place?

Yeah, um, okay, the Earth revolves around the sun as far as I'm aware... is there any problem with that "theory?" I've never heard of one.

I haven't either. I still can't tell if this is serious topic or not. In any case, it certainly shouldn't be.

There is a ton of evidence that the earth is flat. I went hiking today and there were some ups and downs, but overall, quite flat.

We've observed that the Earth isn't flat.

Even if the moon landing was fake--the way something disappears over the horizon means it's observed at a minimum.

The fact that a ship disappears from sight in the horizon is also something that was suspicious...

That's just evidence that the curvature is less than that noticeable by the human eye => Earth is pretty huge compared to man. Trivial really.


Who still believe Earth is the centre of the universe? It doesn't fit WITH the big bang theory and that's generally accepted by most as a fairly reliable theory.

You have got to be kidding me. How may you even possibly suggest such a ridiculous nonsense as geocentrism?

1. Due to Newton's gravitational theory alone and more specifically its invert square law the Earth isn't big enough to make a planet the size of Mars revolve around it, much less a star as big as the Sun.

2. The only movement of the Sun is orbiting around the center of the Milky Way.

3. The planets move in an eliptical motion aroud the Sun, something that neither geocentrism nor heliocentrism supported at first - though heliocentrism later accepted that view when it was formulated by Kepler (whose laws support this very type of movement), while geocentrism didn't.

LATE POSTS ARE LATE.

Good grief...

Hmm, you guys ever heard of the Flat Earth society? It's a serious group that seriously believes the Earth is seriously flat.

i only know the band with that name really

i can only advice you to go look it up, i amused me so much on that site
they think that gravity is actually the earth that moves up

Sadly, this is the kind of thing that happens when two very closely related individuals marry and then home school their progeny, right?

Rofl I just spent some time looking around in their forums... I can't believe they ARE serious about all this, and whining about conspiracy theories going on since 1547 and stuff like that... Truly amazing, an island of good old fashioned Medieval ignorance in our very own XXI Century internet. A jewel.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/

This thread is pure gold
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/i...p?topic=11211.0

Q: "Doesn't this mean we'd be traveling faster than the speed of light, which is impossible?"

A: The equations of Special Relativity prevent an object from accelerating to the speed of light. Due to this restriction, these equations prove that an object can accelerate at a constant rate forever, and never reach the speed of light.


Q: Follow-up to previous question: "How is it that the Earth does not have a gravitational pull, but stars and the moon do?"

A: This argument is a non-sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.


'nouf said tbh