I would jsut like to ponit out a few things that might need changeing in these. I've highlighted and added notes
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Regarding items and content:
[02] New items - please post these suggestions in the sticky that is linked to above. (this does not count for suggestions that incorporate new items into a broader idea, such as quest suggestions, or suggestions for groups of items, as long as your suggestion is elaborate and detailed.)
[03] New skills or spells - please post these in the sticky above, unless they are detailed and elaborate.
[04] New staves. (mind, chaos, law, nature, etc.)
[05] Bringing back holiday drops, or changing their tradeability or lack of it. (i.e.: making party hats untradeable, or making scythes tradeable)
[06] New Dragon items. (Jagex is releasing them slowly, one by one) As long as its elaborated, why the hell not?
[07] Modern or futuristic items. (ion cannons in RuneScape?)
[08] Any suggestion dealing with any type of gun or firearm. Hand cannon, multi cannon. There are perfectly good suggestion with old firearms, cannons have been around for a 1000 years and fit the medievil theme fine.
[09] Any suggestion dealing with making resource X stackable. (i.e.: flax, coal, etc.)
[10] Adult or otherwise inappropriate content. (including smoking, bodily functions, etc.)
[11] Copyrighted ideas. (including items from other games)
Regarding gameplay:
[12] Being able to use and trade members items and skills on free worlds.
[13] Assuming positions other than sitting or standing.
[14] Choosing a race (other than human) when creating a new account.
[15] Riding (regardless of what is used to ride, be it a giant ant or a spaceship) or flying.
[16] Daytime and night-time/Weather.
[17] Enlarging inventory. (there is a reason why your inventory is limited to 28 spaces)
[18] A player made 'examine' on themselves. WHY?
[19] New guilds. (i.e.: woodcutting guild, trading guild, n00bz guild...)WHY!?!
[20] Shapeshifting suggestions. (i.e. turning into an animal or anything of the sorts) Its one of the only ideas left for a skill, I have never EVEr seen a suggestion aout it by a enw member (the ones who don't read the rules) so why is there a rule about it?
[21] Smithing black/white/dragon items. These cannot be smithed for a reason.
[22] Changing any already existing requirements for Quests, Guilds, Items, etc.
[23] Changing/adding additional uses for items without a reasonable justification.
Regarding trading and item management:
[24] More bank space. (suggested way too much and that's it)
[25] New bank locations (especially Karamja) or banking from anywhere. (already possible with trapped imps anyway)
[26] Having mining rocks, rare trees, or any other rare object next to banks.
[27] Make-X/Make All option. (if Jagex wants to add these for certain tasks, they will. There's no reason to suggest this.)
[28] Drop-X/Drop All option.
[29] Remove the current trading limit.
Regarding combat:
[30] Dual Wielding. (two-weaponing)
[31] Facial-Wielding option.
[32] Bring back duelling anywhere.
[33] Bring back the old wilderness.
[34] Bring back the old duel arena.
[35] Remove the staking limit.
Regarding Runescape servers:
[36] Bringing back Runescape Classic.
[37] Larger world sizes. (i.e. more than 2,000 people on any world at any time)
[38] Member trial for free players.
[39] Private/exclusive servers. (i.e. servers based on age/player levels or all PvP) Might want to remove them, we look stupid whenever a banned suggestion gets released
[40] New servers and their locations. (unless the reasons for it are specified and, if possible, documented)
[41] Turning updates off.
[42] Removing updates to make things "as they were". (see 34, 35, 36)
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Full Version: Suggestions Rules
I agree. the suggestion rules are outdated and could be a bit more flexible since some of the banned suggestions have already happened or will happen in the future ie runescape classic returning.
We all know some of these are very harsh but we also know that most likely they will not be changed.
There is no point in suggesting dragon items, since they will come/ making the suggestion a useles (but creative) loss of time.
The rest of the options you bolded are things that could happen, but are very unlikely. Also suggestions springing up from them (especially player examination, new guilds, private servers).
The only thing I would consider removing is the firearm and the shapeshifting one.
~Razorlike
The rest of the options you bolded are things that could happen, but are very unlikely. Also suggestions springing up from them (especially player examination, new guilds, private servers).
The only thing I would consider removing is the firearm and the shapeshifting one.
~Razorlike
Was it really necessary to quote the entire thing instead of only the one's you have a problem with?
In case anyone else said one of these before sorry I had to go somewhere in the middle of writing.
QUOTE (easl @ Sep 10 2009, 11:15 AM) 
I would jsut like to ponit out a few things that might need changeing in these. I've highlighted and added notes
[06] New Dragon items. (Jagex is releasing them slowly, one by one) As long as its elaborated, why the hell not? Because it's pointless to suggest an item that will eventually be made. I can understand suggesting it being droppable off a certain npc or something, but just saying. "I want Jagex to add all the dragon weapons wahh wahh we need more dragon weapons" is not acceptable and this was the basis for the rule anyway. People give no detail and only say the item which belongs in the sticky anyway. So in short if you're suggesting it as a reward for a hard and long quest or something like GWD you are not directly suggested
[08] Any suggestion dealing with any type of gun or firearm. Hand cannon, multi cannon. There are perfectly good suggestion with old firearms, cannons have been around for a 1000 years and fit the medievil theme fine. There already is a cannon, the dwarf multi-cannon. People have suggested more modern weapons which is why I don't understand why this rule hasn't been combined with the one above it. Also I don't see the need to add muskets, and rifles in RuneScape since anyone suggesting them as with every other firearm will overpower it to no end with no drawback. If you have a legitimate one pm a moderator first.
[18] A player made 'examine' on themselves. WHY? Oversuggested to hell before this rule was added. It's a concept that's been on the RSOF more times then the number of hours I've lived. This was taken directly from the RSOF rules before it was broken into sections. Also is it that difficult that you need to suggest something everyone's thought about at least once and has no ounce of originality left?
[19] New guilds. (i.e.: woodcutting guild, trading guild, n00bz guild...)WHY!?! If you can explain why a guild suggestion should be allowed I'll listen but being there's guilds and minigames for almost every skill it seems pointless. In addition to that aren't there enough trees all over RuneScape that a Woodcutting Guild would just seem moronic?
[20] Shapeshifting suggestions. (i.e. turning into an animal or anything of the sorts) Its one of the only ideas left for a skill, I have never EVEr seen a suggestion aout it by a enw member (the ones who don't read the rules) so why is there a rule about it? How exactly can this be considered a skill? It would fall under a form of magic? And frankly it makes absolutely no sense, once again if it involves a new area, a new race, a quest, different types of magic, maybe I can understand this but simply saying "I suggest we be able to turn into animals" sounds rather stupid don''t you think?
[39] Private/exclusive servers. (i.e. servers based on age/player levels or all PvP) Might want to remove them, we look stupid whenever a banned suggestion gets released Agreed
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[06] New Dragon items. (Jagex is releasing them slowly, one by one) As long as its elaborated, why the hell not? Because it's pointless to suggest an item that will eventually be made. I can understand suggesting it being droppable off a certain npc or something, but just saying. "I want Jagex to add all the dragon weapons wahh wahh we need more dragon weapons" is not acceptable and this was the basis for the rule anyway. People give no detail and only say the item which belongs in the sticky anyway. So in short if you're suggesting it as a reward for a hard and long quest or something like GWD you are not directly suggested
[08] Any suggestion dealing with any type of gun or firearm. Hand cannon, multi cannon. There are perfectly good suggestion with old firearms, cannons have been around for a 1000 years and fit the medievil theme fine. There already is a cannon, the dwarf multi-cannon. People have suggested more modern weapons which is why I don't understand why this rule hasn't been combined with the one above it. Also I don't see the need to add muskets, and rifles in RuneScape since anyone suggesting them as with every other firearm will overpower it to no end with no drawback. If you have a legitimate one pm a moderator first.
[18] A player made 'examine' on themselves. WHY? Oversuggested to hell before this rule was added. It's a concept that's been on the RSOF more times then the number of hours I've lived. This was taken directly from the RSOF rules before it was broken into sections. Also is it that difficult that you need to suggest something everyone's thought about at least once and has no ounce of originality left?
[19] New guilds. (i.e.: woodcutting guild, trading guild, n00bz guild...)WHY!?! If you can explain why a guild suggestion should be allowed I'll listen but being there's guilds and minigames for almost every skill it seems pointless. In addition to that aren't there enough trees all over RuneScape that a Woodcutting Guild would just seem moronic?
[20] Shapeshifting suggestions. (i.e. turning into an animal or anything of the sorts) Its one of the only ideas left for a skill, I have never EVEr seen a suggestion aout it by a enw member (the ones who don't read the rules) so why is there a rule about it? How exactly can this be considered a skill? It would fall under a form of magic? And frankly it makes absolutely no sense, once again if it involves a new area, a new race, a quest, different types of magic, maybe I can understand this but simply saying "I suggest we be able to turn into animals" sounds rather stupid don''t you think?
[39] Private/exclusive servers. (i.e. servers based on age/player levels or all PvP) Might want to remove them, we look stupid whenever a banned suggestion gets released Agreed
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In case anyone else said one of these before sorry I had to go somewhere in the middle of writing.
Thanks Cxk
Razor, they haven't already planned all dragon weapons out, theres still: short sword, warhammer, kiteshield, defender and hasta (unlikely). They may have drawn up plans for a few but I doubt they have plans for all of them.
Cxk, I can imagine a very very nicely done slayer guild happening
Razor, they haven't already planned all dragon weapons out, theres still: short sword, warhammer, kiteshield, defender and hasta (unlikely). They may have drawn up plans for a few but I doubt they have plans for all of them.
Cxk, I can imagine a very very nicely done slayer guild happening
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Might want to remove them, we look stupid whenever a banned suggestion gets released
Bar anybody getting mind reading powers, we won't know what Jagex will release. Besides that, the fact that one thing will be released is even MORE of a reason to bar it from being suggested - the hype for upcoming releases leads (far too often) to "ZOMFG AWSUM" suggestion for a thing that is already planned anyway.Besides, regarding rule 39 in specific, most of those suggestions are summable with "omfg n0 n00bz on mah servr".
I personally think rule 18 should be removed, it would be nice to see something creative that could be picked up and used for a particular skill. There is plenty to be added, look for example at the popularity of the fishing guild, there are fishing spots allover, but people like that one. 
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 14 2009, 07:50 AM)
I personally think rule 18 should be removed, it would be nice to see something creative that could be picked up and used for a particular skill. There is plenty to be added, look for example at the popularity of the fishing guild, there are fishing spots allover, but people like that one.
Exactly, I ahd a slayer guild suggestion that if i had named it differently it would of been allowed
QUOTE (easl @ Sep 14 2009, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 14 2009, 07:50 AM)
I personally think rule 18 should be removed, it would be nice to see something creative that could be picked up and used for a particular skill. There is plenty to be added, look for example at the popularity of the fishing guild, there are fishing spots allover, but people like that one.
Exactly, I ahd a slayer guild suggestion that if i had named it differently it would of been allowed
Or if you had just PMed a mod to get permission.
~Razorlike
~Razorlike
QUOTE (Razorlike @ Sep 14 2009, 12:01 PM)
QUOTE (easl @ Sep 14 2009, 04:28 PM)
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 14 2009, 07:50 AM)
I personally think rule 18 should be removed, it would be nice to see something creative that could be picked up and used for a particular skill. There is plenty to be added, look for example at the popularity of the fishing guild, there are fishing spots allover, but people like that one.
Exactly, I ahd a slayer guild suggestion that if i had named it differently it would of been allowed
Or if you had just PMed a mod to get permission.
~Razorlike
~Razorlike
Talk about effort
Its easier to remove something once than to get pmed every time you post something.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with what's already been posted. We don't really need to make many changes as it stands. The rules are working fine as it is, and if there's a possible home run in there, the rule may get changed. If not, na na na na life goes on.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with what's already been posted. We don't really need to make many changes as it stands. The rules are working fine as it is, and if there's a possible home run in there, the rule may get changed. If not, na na na na life goes on.
The rules are there to give us a good leeway to close underthought and stupid suggestions.
Feel free to PM the mods, since its much less of a hassle to answer a pm then have the forums flooded with unneeded idea, and no wa of clsoing them.
~Razorlike
Feel free to PM the mods, since its much less of a hassle to answer a pm then have the forums flooded with unneeded idea, and no wa of clsoing them.
~Razorlike
I personally agree with all the changes except 18 (39 could be reworded to no longer include PvP only, but otherwise it should also stay). All the other suggestions would be allowed if they're elaborate and original enough anyway, and, seeing as we already have a rule that says they must be adequately elaborated and be fairly original, why not just let them be posted and leave it up to the discretion of the mods on whether or not each individual suggestion is following the detail and originality rules closely enough?
As far as 18 goes, it really can't be given any original twist or have a ton of detail anyway. Kinda like Drop-X, Drop-All.
As far as 18 goes, it really can't be given any original twist or have a ton of detail anyway. Kinda like Drop-X, Drop-All.
QUOTE (heb0 @ Sep 17 2009, 07:45 PM)
As far as 18 goes, it really can't be given any original twist or have a ton of detail anyway. Kinda like Drop-X, Drop-All.
I disagree, look at legends guild with the special dungeon and new item, rangers guild which actually contains a mini-game. Warrior guild is filled with so much creativity with mini-games, new rewards, new puzzles, new monsters etc... There is a whole field of creativity to be explored here.
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