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iToast
Necrophilia is the erotic attraction to corpses, which may or may not involve sexual intercourse with corpses.

Might as well keep it short; is necrophilia right or wrong? I'll post my opinions later.

-REAP-
well gee
if you don't illegally do it then yes i guess
Vera
I don't see the point in revering corpses, myself. A person's legacy should be in memories, not in the body. Since the corpse is gonna turn into dust and bones pretty soon, I don't see any harm in letting someone have sex with it. I think that necrophilia is absolutely nasty, but as long as a person is allowed to have sex with the corpse, they can go ahead and do it.
D-Jizzy
I'd never do it but if that's your thing...
Choccy
QUOTE (Vera @ Sep 19 2009, 10:38 PM) *
I don't see the point in revering corpses, myself. A person's legacy should be in memories, not in the body. Since the corpse is gonna turn into dust and bones pretty soon, I don't see any harm in letting someone have sex with it. I think that necrophilia is absolutely nasty, but as long as a person is allowed to have sex with the corpse, they can go ahead and do it.


I'm assuming you also mean the person has permission from the dead person?
jack-nicholson
The only moral and ethical means I can see of conducting Necrophilia is if the deceased gave permission for the living to violate their corpse. That being the case I suppose someone would be in the right, legally speaking.
As to whether it's natural or unnatural, I don't wanna touch this one with a ten foot poll. It certainly goes against every instinct in my body, and causes a great deal of repulsion and disgust on my part. But that's been the excuse for every unnatural sexual act hasn't it?
Scrum
Tbh I'll let necro's have sex with me because that's the only way I'll lose my virginity lolololol

No srsly
Rene
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 09:42 AM) *
QUOTE (Vera @ Sep 19 2009, 10:38 PM) *
I don't see the point in revering corpses, myself. A person's legacy should be in memories, not in the body. Since the corpse is gonna turn into dust and bones pretty soon, I don't see any harm in letting someone have sex with it. I think that necrophilia is absolutely nasty, but as long as a person is allowed to have sex with the corpse, they can go ahead and do it.


I'm assuming you also mean the person has permission from the dead person?

"Hey, you're dead right?"
"..."
"You wouldn't mind if I have sex with you right?"
"..."
"Silence is a yes."
Choccy
QUOTE (Rene @ Sep 20 2009, 05:41 AM) *
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 09:42 AM) *
QUOTE (Vera @ Sep 19 2009, 10:38 PM) *
I don't see the point in revering corpses, myself. A person's legacy should be in memories, not in the body. Since the corpse is gonna turn into dust and bones pretty soon, I don't see any harm in letting someone have sex with it. I think that necrophilia is absolutely nasty, but as long as a person is allowed to have sex with the corpse, they can go ahead and do it.


I'm assuming you also mean the person has permission from the dead person?

"Hey, you're dead right?"
"..."
"You wouldn't mind if I have sex with you right?"
"..."
"Silence is a yes."


Heh, I meant before they die. tongue.gif
John Adams
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect. While I understand some of you are all for "live and let live" society has to draw a line somewhere. I draw this line at "no, you cannot have sex with the dead body".

Unless the dead person gave permission (writen, nor oral) that such a thing would be allowed to happen to them. Legally, I do not think I could argue against this, even thou it fills me with repulsion and disgust.

QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Sep 20 2009, 05:06 AM) *
It certainly goes against every instinct in my body, and causes a great deal of repulsion and disgust on my part. But that's been the excuse for every unnatural sexual act hasn't it?


My thoughts exactly.

~John
Samurai Kenji
Its a dead lump of skin and bones if that kinda thing really turns you on then go for it as long as your not breaking any other laws while doing so.
Phoenix Rider
Like JK said, I'm not touching this one with a 10 foot pole. And like him, I agree that the only way this could be allowed is with the deceased person's permission in the first place. Something I personally won't do and doubt any people will. So if there is no legal consent, this act should be considered an act of rape and assault on a private property quite frankly.
-REAP-
yeah i mean by "allowed" to do it i mean you don't break into a grave or something!!
iToast
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.

QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
While I understand some of you are all for "live and let live" society has to draw a line somewhere. I draw this line at "no, you cannot have sex with the dead body".

Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.
Phoenix Rider
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


The dead corpse in my mind is still a private property of the family and loved ones. hence, if I break into a morgue and ravage ur mom's body, u have every right to prosecute me as u do if I operate ur DVD or sex toy without consent.
-REAP-
QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 20 2009, 12:19 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


The dead corpse in my mind is still a private property of the family and loved ones. hence, if I break into a morgue and ravage ur mom's body, u have every right to prosecute me as u do if I operate ur DVD or sex toy without consent.


But we were talking about not breaking other laws
Samurai Kenji
QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 20 2009, 03:19 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


The dead corpse in my mind is still a private property of the family and loved ones. hence, if I break into a morgue and ravage ur mom's body, u have every right to prosecute me as u do if I operate ur DVD or sex toy without consent.


But who decides whos property a dead corpse is? You don't own the person while there alive why do you suddenly get to "own" there dead corpse after there gone? I agree i'de be very upset if someone was doing my moms dead body but the person "doing my moms body" might be equally as mad that i'm trying to stop him. So who gets to decide that my happiness is more important then his is my question.
iToast
QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 20 2009, 08:11 PM) *
Like JK said, I'm not touching this one with a 10 foot pole. And like him, I agree that the only way this could be allowed is with the deceased person's permission in the first place. Something I personally won't do and doubt any people will. So if there is no legal consent, this act should be considered an act of rape and assault on a private property quite frankly.

QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 20 2009, 08:19 PM) *
The dead corpse in my mind is still a private property of the family and loved ones. hence, if I break into a morgue and ravage ur mom's body, u have every right to prosecute me as u do if I operate ur DVD or sex toy without consent.

It shouldn't be considered rape because they're not having sex with a person, they're having sex with an inanimate dead body. The person who possessed that body is long gone. How is necrophilia an assault on private property, unless someone stole the body in order to obtain it (as described in your example)?




Phoenix Rider
QUOTE (Meidou @ Sep 20 2009, 10:24 PM) *
QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 20 2009, 03:19 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 10:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


The dead corpse in my mind is still a private property of the family and loved ones. hence, if I break into a morgue and ravage ur mom's body, u have every right to prosecute me as u do if I operate ur DVD or sex toy without consent.


But who decides whos property a dead corpse is? You don't own the person while there alive why do you suddenly get to "own" there dead corpse after there gone? I agree i'de be very upset if someone was doing my moms dead body but the person "doing my moms body" might be equally as mad that i'm trying to stop him. So who gets to decide that my happiness is more important then his is my question.


I'm sorry but if ur actually holding the rights of a man's sexual pleasure over the Right to Property of a individual then somethings wrong.

No one owns a corpse, except the deceased. It is still his "property", just as his body was when he was alive. He can leave instructions on how it is disposed. It he doesn't leave any instructions, the family or the state can make the decision on his behalf. This is the same theory we use in the deceased possessions or money. Why should the corpse be any different. I could say my body is my property and by abusing it after my death, u have abused my property.

I know I have made a slight shift in my stance to ownership since my last post. To some it up, I say that the corpse, like any other property of the deceased, must be treated with care and given the respect the deceased would have wanted for it. Without consent from said person, u have as much right over his/her corpse as u do with their house or money. It will be the family or the State with the final say.
lilshu
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Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.

I think you're taking that argument a bit too far. slanty.gif
iToast
QUOTE (lilshu @ Sep 20 2009, 08:48 PM) *
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Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.

I think you're taking that argument a bit too far. slanty.gif

My point is that just because society has etched it into people's minds that something is wrong, doesn't necessarily mean it is.
Vera
Really, now, we have to respect someone's corpse? Soon enough, it will be a pile of dust. There is no need for revering a corpse. A corpse does nothing. There shouldn't be any negative symbolism in someone raping a corpse, because a dead man is not his dead body - he's his legacy, and if you're religious, his soul.
One
If you take necrophilia back into a time where sex only applies really as a method to have children and anything is taboo, then you end up with what I generally think on necrophilia. Sex is to make children primarily, since those who are deceased cannot have children what is the point in having sex with them. As for having sex for the pleasure with a deceased person, I think that is extremely wrong. Don't defile someones body after death and in kind of a side note, imagine it was your mother or father as the person who was the deceased one getting defiled. Most wouldn't want that now, would they?

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Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.
No matter how you put it, you aren't making a baby with the deceased and presumably that will never change. Having sex for pleasure crosses a line, but that doesn't even come close to having sex with the deceased for pleasure!
John Adams
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 03:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


I do believe in respect. As I said before, I have a problem with it.

QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 03:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
While I understand some of you are all for "live and let live" society has to draw a line somewhere. I draw this line at "no, you cannot have sex with the dead body".

Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.


Why should we not? We draw a line against murder, rape, and various other crimes (and we should).

Here and now is not "a long time ago", it is here, and now.

I understand your "live, and let live policy", however, we must draw lines for what is right and wrong. I believe Necrophilia to be wrong (as do many others, or it would not be against the law).

EDIT:
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My point is that just because society has etched it into people's minds that something is wrong, doesn't necessarily mean it is.


So you are for criminals being allowed to do whatever crime they feel like and getting away with it simply because "society has etched it onto people's minds that something is wrong"?

~John
Sk8skull
well i guess if your attracted to it you can.
As long as you dont break any laws like digging up the body, and if the family is okay with it.
Personally i think its nasty, i just cant stand thinking about it.
But whatever floats your boat, as long as you have permission(writen).

In the 8th grade, like what 2 years ago.
Some kid in my Englsih Class Typed Necrophiliac on the computer screen, in a really big font for no reason.(the rest was a blank document)

He got suspended for 2 days because that word was "offensive", and "wrong"

EDIT: i wasnt the kids freind, i only associate myself with cabbage-lover's. =] And toasty, i like how you always start threads talking about society. =]
Scrum
QUOTE (sk8skull @ Sep 20 2009, 08:25 PM) *
But whatever floats your boat, as long as you have permission(writen).

Why do you need written permission? When I die, I don't care what happens to my dead body, really, and why should anyone?

From what I'd like to happen to my body when I die, I'd be in everyone else eyebrows.gif

No srsly, I want to donate my organs.
Choccy
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 02:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


Don't you feel a dead person has rights too? Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc, and or want their body to be respected and not defiled. As much of a ''turn on' it is for the man, I'm sure the man can be healthily sustain sexual feelings by having sex with anybody else, by having sex with a dead person is a step to far in my book of morals, so I wouldn't agree that it's "right" to do this, I would question it, and only condone it if person dieing gives permission.
Scrum
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 09:50 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 02:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


Don't you feel a dead person has rights too? Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc, and or want their body to be respected and not defiled. As much of a ''turn on' it is for the man, I'm sure the man can be healthily sustain sexual feelings by having sex with anybody else, buy having sex with a dead person is a step to far in my book of morals, so I wouldn't agree that it's "right" to do this, I would question it, and only condone it if person dieing gives permission.

It's a dead body, how can it have rights?
Choccy
QUOTE (Scrum @ Sep 20 2009, 04:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 09:50 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 02:16 PM) *
QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
I am against this. Even in death humans should be granted a certain ammount of respect.

Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.


Don't you feel a dead person has rights too? Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc, and or want their body to be respected and not defiled. As much of a ''turn on' it is for the man, I'm sure the man can be healthily sustain sexual feelings by having sex with anybody else, buy having sex with a dead person is a step to far in my book of morals, so I wouldn't agree that it's "right" to do this, I would question it, and only condone it if person dieing gives permission.

It's a dead body, how can it have rights?


Because some people value dead bodies to be more than just an object, but to be a subject of memories and lifetime, and that when we die, we would like ourselves to be respected in a dead form, as a dieing wish. Humans want to be remembered, not to be defiled.
-REAP-
QUOTE (One @ Sep 20 2009, 01:15 PM) *
Don't defile someones body after death and in kind of a side note, imagine it was your mother or father as the person who was the deceased one getting defiled. Most wouldn't want that now, would they?

Imagining my mom or dad having sex doesn't mean sex is wrong so

QUOTE (sk8skull @ Sep 20 2009, 01:25 PM) *
He got suspended for 2 days because that word was "offensive", and "wrong"

I'd hate that school
it's almost like typing homosexual and getting suspended
Samurai Kenji
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Don't you feel a dead person has rights too?


No.

I'll use the same argument i used on the Abortions thread. Are we giving grass rights now to? Seriously we don't have to give rights to everything on this planet, Its dead it doesn't give a shizzle about its rights.


QUOTE
Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc,


I believe my shizzle has feelings and we as humans have no right to flush it does that mean it should be illegal to flush it? Same amount of proof in my theory as there is in the idea of an afterlife.


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we would like ourselves to be respected in a dead form, as a dieing wish. Humans want to be remembered, not to be defiled.


No most of the smart humans wouldn't give a damn either way. Your dead your physical existance is now a lump of rotting flesh why not satisfy some pervert by letting him do you up the bum? He's happy you don't care either way infact it seems selfish if you don't let him.
iToast
QUOTE (One @ Sep 20 2009, 09:15 PM) *
If you take necrophilia back into a time where sex only applies really as a method to have children and anything is taboo, then you end up with what I generally think on necrophilia. Sex is to make children primarily, since those who are deceased cannot have children what is the point in having sex with them. As for having sex for the pleasure with a deceased person, I think that is extremely wrong. Don't defile someones body after death and in kind of a side note, imagine it was your mother or father as the person who was the deceased one getting defiled. Most wouldn't want that now, would they?

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Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.
No matter how you put it, you aren't making a baby with the deceased and presumably that will never change. Having sex for pleasure crosses a line, but that doesn't even come close to having sex with the deceased for pleasure!

If you feel having sex merely for pleasure crosses a line, how come you are not against bestiality and such?

QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 09:21 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 03:16 PM) *
Having sex with a corpse isn't having sex with someone after they've died. It isn't 'them' anymore, it's just an empty corpse. Whilst that person can still be respected in death, their body might as well be an inanimate object and to be honest, it is. I don't believe in respect for corpses whatsoever. As long as the necrophiliac in question isn't hurting anyone in the process, I don't have a problem with necrophilia, although I would never do it myself.

I do believe in respect. As I said before, I have a problem with it.

QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 03:16 PM) *
Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.

Why should we not? We draw a line against murder, rape, and various other crimes (and we should).

Here and now is not "a long time ago", it is here, and now.

I understand your "live, and let live policy", however, we must draw lines for what is right and wrong. I believe Necrophilia to be wrong (as do many others, or it would not be against the law).

Necrophilia is hardly comparable to rape and murder; these two things harm people whereas necrophilia does not (as the body is inanimate). True, we should draw the lines of right and wrong somewhere, but for what reason should necrophilia be over the line of wrong? You may wish to respect the dead, but that person is not their body - their body is merely an object. Their body need not symbolise anything; may the deceased be respected through the memories of others. Also, just because something is against the law, doesn't mean it is wrong.

QUOTE (John Adams @ Sep 20 2009, 09:21 PM) *
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My point is that just because society has etched it into people's minds that something is wrong, doesn't necessarily mean it is.

So you are for criminals being allowed to do whatever crime they feel like and getting away with it simply because "society has etched it onto people's minds that something is wrong"?

No I do not. My point was not that criminals should be able to do what they want, it was that things aren't necessarily wrong because society says so. By no means, am I implying that everything we have been taught by society is invalid.

QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 09:50 PM) *
Don't you feel a dead person has rights too? Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc, and or want their body to be respected and not defiled. As much of a ''turn on' it is for the man, I'm sure the man can be healthily sustain sexual feelings by having sex with anybody else, buy having sex with a dead person is a step to far in my book of morals, so I wouldn't agree that it's "right" to do this, I would question it, and only condone it if person dieing gives permission.

No I don't feel a dead person has rights. Nor does an inanimate corpse. However if somebody specifically wishes for their body to be respected and states it in their will, then so be it. If they do not, I see no reason why their corpse should be respected. Furthermore, it is very possible for one's sexual preference to be so dominant that it is almost impossible to become sexually aroused without the necessary means, so perhaps they couldn't just have sex with anyone else.

Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif
Choccy
QUOTE (Meidou @ Sep 20 2009, 05:49 PM) *
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Don't you feel a dead person has rights too?


No.

I'll use the same argument i used on the Abortions thread. Are we giving grass rights now to? Seriously we don't have to give rights to everything on this planet, Its dead it doesn't give a shizzle about its rights.


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Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc,


I believe my shizzle has feelings and we as humans have no right to flush it does that mean it should be illegal to flush it? Same amount of proof in my theory as there is in the idea of an afterlife.


I'm not going to get in the religious debate here because that's just silly, so how about you start respecting other people's belief's instead of trying to destroy the premise of the belief. Obviously you can do what you like with your shizzle, but the other persons shizzle, is their shizzle, so you don't touch their shizzle unless they tell you to touch their shizzle.
Samurai Kenji
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 05:53 PM) *
QUOTE (Meidou @ Sep 20 2009, 05:49 PM) *
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Don't you feel a dead person has rights too?


No.

I'll use the same argument i used on the Abortions thread. Are we giving grass rights now to? Seriously we don't have to give rights to everything on this planet, Its dead it doesn't give a shizzle about its rights.


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Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc,


I believe my shizzle has feelings and we as humans have no right to flush it does that mean it should be illegal to flush it? Same amount of proof in my theory as there is in the idea of an afterlife.


I'm not going to get in the religious debate here because that's just silly, so how about you start respecting other people's belief's instead of trying to destroy the premise of the belief. Obviously you can do what you like with your shizzle, but the other persons shizzle, is their shizzle, so you don't touch their shizzle unless they tell you to touch their shizzle.


Sorry, i should have worded that a little more nicely. My point is that we shouldn't base our rights on things that have no proof or even viable evidence. If we did that then everyone would be able to make up laws based on what they feel like believing in that day.


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Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men


He tends to just be the generic term for it. Its a throw back to the dark ages where women had no rights that nobodies really cared enough about to bother changing. I'de hope the people on this thread are a little smarter then to think men are the only perverts in the world. (Though it's a little harder for a woman to rape a corpse i think.)
Choccy
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 05:53 PM) *
Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif



Yes...well...good luck with getting it erect. wink.gif And I know it doesn't have to be men, but I think it pretty much is men.
Sk8skull
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 05:53 PM) *
Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif



Yes...well...good luck with getting it erect. wink.gif And I know it doesn't have to be men, but I think it pretty much is men.


sadly thats a stereotype i belive.
Unless the person is lesbian it doesnt make sense that a women would be a necrophiliac.

=/
L T
Well if you're doing someone and they die during, than obviously you don't know so thats not wrong.
Although, if you dig up their grave and do stuff to their body, that's just gross.
Samurai Kenji
QUOTE (sk8skull @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 05:53 PM) *
Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif



Yes...well...good luck with getting it erect. wink.gif And I know it doesn't have to be men, but I think it pretty much is men.


sadly thats a stereotype i belive.
Unless the person is lesbian it doesnt make sense that a women would be a necrophiliac.

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Give the flacid penis a passionate BJ while masturbating themselves? Not all sexual activities are penis vagina/bumhole.
lilshu
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Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif



Yes...well...good luck with getting it erect. wink.gif And I know it doesn't have to be men, but I think it pretty much is men.


sadly thats a stereotype i belive.
Unless the person is lesbian it doesnt make sense that a women would be a necrophiliac.

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Give the flacid penis a passionate BJ while masturbating themselves? Not all sexual activities are penis vagina/bumhole.

Flaccid? Naw. Fun with rigor mortis.
Choccy
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QUOTE (Meidou @ Sep 20 2009, 05:49 PM) *
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Don't you feel a dead person has rights too?


No.

I'll use the same argument i used on the Abortions thread. Are we giving grass rights now to? Seriously we don't have to give rights to everything on this planet, Its dead it doesn't give a shizzle about its rights.


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Especially those with beliefs of afterlife etc,


I believe my shizzle has feelings and we as humans have no right to flush it does that mean it should be illegal to flush it? Same amount of proof in my theory as there is in the idea of an afterlife.


I'm not going to get in the religious debate here because that's just silly, so how about you start respecting other people's belief's instead of trying to destroy the premise of the belief. Obviously you can do what you like with your shizzle, but the other persons shizzle, is their shizzle, so you don't touch their shizzle unless they tell you to touch their shizzle.


[Sorry, i should have worded that a little more nicely. My point is that we shouldn't base our rights on things that have no proof or even viable evidence. If we did that then everyone would be able to make up laws based on what they feel like believing in that day.


Is it not a right to respect a person's religion or view, we all don't think alike, and proof for one man may be delusions for another.... It's the same thing as buying a Quran and burning it in front of a muslim, it's disrespectful to dishonor one's body. The law should not tell us what to believe, but it certainly shouldn't tell us what not to believe in, and therefore it must respect some reasonable religious demands regarding a personal belief that affects no one other than yourself.
Sk8skull
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QUOTE (sk8skull @ Sep 20 2009, 06:01 PM) *
QUOTE (Choccy @ Sep 20 2009, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE (iToast @ Sep 20 2009, 05:53 PM) *
Also, I find it funny how several people in this debate have assumed all necrophiliacs are men. blink.gif



Yes...well...good luck with getting it erect. wink.gif And I know it doesn't have to be men, but I think it pretty much is men.


sadly thats a stereotype i belive.
Unless the person is lesbian it doesnt make sense that a women would be a necrophiliac.

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Give the flacid penis a passionate BJ while masturbating themselves? Not all sexual activities are penis vagina/bumhole.


point taken.
I guess that when people hear the term necropliliac they just automatically think of men, not women.
Thats just another thing society etches into your mind.
Phoenix Rider
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It's a dead body, how can it have rights?


No but the OWNER of the body does. I believe we must treat the corpse a a possession of the deceased and it should either a: be disposed or treated under the wishes of the person in question or b: be disposed or treated under instructions from family or loved ones. If not loved one's then the State.

That is how we view the possessions and wealth of a person. With dignity and respect. The corpse is no different and u have us much right over it as u do over his/her house or the wealth the possessed.

So yes, I believe a person does has rights over his/her possessions; even until death. It's the law. Deal with it. How would u like it if I stole ur mother's house and make it mine of the grounds that mummy is dead? Not very nice yes?
iToast
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QUOTE (Scrum @ Sep 21 2009, 12:02 AM) *
It's a dead body, how can it have rights?

No but the OWNER of the body does. I believe we must treat the corpse a a possession of the deceased and it should either a: be disposed or treated under the wishes of the person in question or b: be disposed or treated under instructions from family or loved ones. If not loved one's then the State.

That is how we view the possessions and wealth of a person. With dignity and respect. The corpse is no different and u have us much right over it as u do over his/her house or the wealth the possessed.

So yes, I believe a person does has rights over his/her possessions; even until death. It's the law. Deal with it. How would u like it if I stole ur mother's house and make it mine of the grounds that mummy is dead? Not very nice yes?

It's more the fact that it would be stealing that's the problem, rather than the necrophilia itself. Let's say for example the deceased had requested for their corpse to be in the possession of somebody that they know, to do with what they wish. That person proceeds to engage in necrophilia with said corpse. No stealing is involved. Would this be wrong?
Phoenix Rider
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QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 21 2009, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Scrum @ Sep 21 2009, 12:02 AM) *
It's a dead body, how can it have rights?

No but the OWNER of the body does. I believe we must treat the corpse a a possession of the deceased and it should either a: be disposed or treated under the wishes of the person in question or b: be disposed or treated under instructions from family or loved ones. If not loved one's then the State.

That is how we view the possessions and wealth of a person. With dignity and respect. The corpse is no different and u have us much right over it as u do over his/her house or the wealth the possessed.

So yes, I believe a person does has rights over his/her possessions; even until death. It's the law. Deal with it. How would u like it if I stole ur mother's house and make it mine of the grounds that mummy is dead? Not very nice yes?

It's more the fact that it would be stealing that's the problem, rather than the necrophilia itself. Let's say for example the deceased had requested for their corpse to be in the possession of somebody that they know, to do with what they wish. That person proceeds to engage in necrophilia with said corpse. No stealing is involved. Would this be wrong?


In that case then I would inspect the mental health of both parties. The same way we inspect the mental health of people who are willing to perform acts of cannibalism on each other for sexual purposes. after that is finished, I doubt pretty much whether there are people left on the list of cases we must consider.

But if there are parties still existing, (and I pray to Almighty God there isn't) I aint touching that with a 10 foot pole. Whatever floats ur boat I guess. sick.gif
Scrum
QUOTE (Phoenix Rider @ Sep 21 2009, 03:56 PM) *
QUOTE (Scrum @ Sep 21 2009, 12:02 AM) *
It's a dead body, how can it have rights?


No but the OWNER of the body does. I believe we must treat the corpse a a possession of the deceased and it should either a: be disposed or treated under the wishes of the person in question or b: be disposed or treated under instructions from family or loved ones. If not loved one's then the State.

That is how we view the possessions and wealth of a person. With dignity and respect. The corpse is no different and u have us much right over it as u do over his/her house or the wealth the possessed.

So yes, I believe a person does has rights over his/her possessions; even until death. It's the law. Deal with it. How would u like it if I stole ur mother's house and make it mine of the grounds that mummy is dead? Not very nice yes?

The possessions would be given to someone in the will, if the will isn't written it would be settled in court.
If she died then that's not my Mum, it's her shell, so feel free to shag it. A dead owner of a body is dead, therefore it can't pick or choose, and if you say "well yeah but it's a loved one etc" well feel free to love your dead loved ones body but that's idolising, the love comes from the memory of the dead loved one. I feel no attachment to my body, I wouldn't want to see my Dad or Mum's dead body but if someone wants to make love to it, I don't honestly care.
One
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If you take necrophilia back into a time where sex only applies really as a method to have children and anything is taboo, then you end up with what I generally think on necrophilia. Sex is to make children primarily, since those who are deceased cannot have children what is the point in having sex with them. As for having sex for the pleasure with a deceased person, I think that is extremely wrong. Don't defile someones body after death and in kind of a side note, imagine it was your mother or father as the person who was the deceased one getting defiled. Most wouldn't want that now, would they?

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Why must society draw a line? A long time ago, the same thing was probably said about many 'unnatural' sex acts that are more or less accepted in today's society.
No matter how you put it, you aren't making a baby with the deceased and presumably that will never change. Having sex for pleasure crosses a line, but that doesn't even come close to having sex with the deceased for pleasure!
If you feel having sex merely for pleasure crosses a line, how come you are not against bestiality and such?
I said it crosses a line because in a way it does, having children is what sex is primarily for. I didn't ever agree that I didn't agree with crossing the line. As for bestiality, I can assure you that having sex with animals is not something I agree with at all, on a more personal note, SHUDDUP tongue.gif!
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