Definition
Sep 20 2009, 04:34 PM
Since all metal music sucks, which one is the worst.
I say Metallica.
redmonke
Sep 20 2009, 04:36 PM
The ones where the guys need a glass of water/most metal.
Samurai Kenji
Sep 20 2009, 04:37 PM
Nu-Metal. I happen to like the genre quite a bit but i still realise 95% of it is terrible/not real metal.
QUOTE
Since all metal music sucks
Nou.
D-Jizzy
Sep 20 2009, 04:39 PM
Most mathcore and pretty much anything consisting of just screaming.
Metal requires decent vocal work imo.
Sodom
Sep 20 2009, 09:26 PM
Any screaming stuff. Black and Death metal. Metalcore and Deathcore and shizzle. When they growl like they gotta orange stuck in their throat it's bad.
jack-nicholson
Sep 21 2009, 02:46 AM
I'm gonna agree with Meidou and cast my vote for Nu-Metal. It has absolutely no redeeming qualities. But then again most devout Metalheads wouldn't even call Nu-Metal, "metal".
Worst metal band: Every Iron Maiden coverband. They just can't pull it off, it sucks, hard.
Rene
Sep 21 2009, 02:57 AM
Hmmh, probably Grindcore imo.
I can't stand to listen to it.
Vera
Sep 21 2009, 08:25 AM
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Sep 21 2009, 02:46 AM)

I'm gonna agree with Meidou and cast my vote for Nu-Metal. It has absolutely no redeeming qualities. But then again most devout Metalheads wouldn't even call Nu-Metal, "metal".
Yeah, metalheads will never accept something as "metal" if they don't like it. It's a stupid idea to asume that if something is within a genre you like, it cannot possibly suck. However, most devout metalheads are morons who, thankfully, tend to avoid educated society.
Worst metal is probably most of the EXTREEEEEME BR00TAL shizzle you hear these days, like Arch Enemy. Cheesey and uninspired guitar, irritating vocals, and total nonsense. Nu-metal is terrible as well, but at least nu-metal bands have the dignity to not growl like the cookie monster and pretend to be really tough guys. They do what every BROOTAL metalhead should do: accepting the fact that they're emotionally struggling teenagers.
Poke
Sep 21 2009, 11:13 AM
What was that one that iToast mentioned on the music reccommendations thread? Some band called something like Styrrgh who use the screams of insane people in their songs.
Whatever genre that falls under.
Scrum
Sep 21 2009, 03:10 PM
I don't know since I don't listen to much metal.
D-Jizzy
Sep 21 2009, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (Vera @ Sep 21 2009, 09:25 AM)

QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Sep 21 2009, 02:46 AM)

I'm gonna agree with Meidou and cast my vote for Nu-Metal. It has absolutely no redeeming qualities. But then again most devout Metalheads wouldn't even call Nu-Metal, "metal".
Yeah, metalheads will never accept something as "metal" if they don't like it. It's a stupid idea to asume that if something is within a genre you like, it cannot possibly suck. However, most devout metalheads are morons who, thankfully, tend to avoid educated society.
Worst metal is probably most of the EXTREEEEEME BR00TAL shizzle you hear these days, like Arch Enemy. Cheesey and uninspired guitar, irritating vocals, and total nonsense. Nu-metal is terrible as well, but at least nu-metal bands have the dignity to not growl like the cookie monster and pretend to be really tough guys. They do what every BROOTAL metalhead should do: accepting the fact that they're emotionally struggling teenagers.
I refuse to be deemed an emotionally struggling teenager.
Then again, I don't listen to much that's apeshizzle crazy like Napalm Death, so...
Hallowed be thy Raide
Sep 21 2009, 04:02 PM
Glam
nuff said
LCD
Sep 21 2009, 04:04 PM
All of it.
Sodom
Sep 21 2009, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 05:02 PM)

Glam
nuff said
Nu metal is a lot worse than glam ever was.
Lord Earth
Sep 21 2009, 05:33 PM
The kind where the entire thing is simply screaming, nothing more. I don't mind the occassional scream, anything to long makes me die a bit on the inside.
Twist of Fate
Sep 21 2009, 05:37 PM
Since all threads like this suck and are generally filled with classic rock fanboys, I've actually lost some IQ points as well as a musical opinion due to the blatant elitism in your post.
Seriously, I like metal but I am not to dismiss other genres as garbage. You've actually made me embarrassed to like it.
If I had to chose, I must say that I am not a very big fan of Mastodon. They are heavy, yes, but they do not appeal very much to me.
D-Jizzy
Sep 21 2009, 06:25 PM
I like Mastodon's sound.
I don't like Moby Dick
Whitey
Sep 21 2009, 06:35 PM
Worst metal? More or less anything that seems to count as "mainstream metal". The Slipknots of the world.
Any for those kids who don't like screaming? Black/death metal isn't for you. Just stick to your Judas Priests.
Jethraw
Sep 21 2009, 06:41 PM
OP makes me sad
D-Jizzy
Sep 21 2009, 06:52 PM
OP makes me laugh.
His lack of in-depth knowledge of metal is apparent.
Hallowed be thy Raide
Sep 21 2009, 10:22 PM
QUOTE (Halfway To Heaven @ Sep 21 2009, 05:14 PM)

QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 05:02 PM)

Glam
nuff said
Nu metal is a lot worse than glam ever was.
..yeah.......
no, not really, i say Nu metal is way better than glam
favorite band is Nu-metal so there's really no point arguing with me
that and they don't really need to look like drag queens to put on a good show
Fruityfed
Sep 21 2009, 10:23 PM
'Scuse me if I'm seeing something that's not there, but uh, parody topic, anyone?
jack-nicholson
Sep 22 2009, 01:33 AM
QUOTE (Fruityfed @ Sep 21 2009, 08:23 PM)

'Scuse me if I'm seeing something that's not there, but uh, parody topic, anyone?
It's a real possibility, Definition is a smart and snakety fellow. But the joke is on us anyway. I mean just look at what has been written, what's metal, what's not metal, purity of metal, etc, etc. We're all a bunch of snobs.
Jordo
Sep 22 2009, 01:38 AM
Metals to good for you guys.
Joe Schmmo
Sep 22 2009, 08:55 AM
The worst metal, to Me, is what I call "decaf" metal. Some examples would be:
- Ska metal. Your metal should sound "metallic," and not like No Doubt or Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
- Vocalists who switch between guttural growls and pop-rock singing. Either one or the other, not both (kinda ties in with previous entry).
- Faked death metal. If You're not a devil worshiper, don't be playing devil worship music. That's like Spinal Tap trying to be N.W.A.
- Jazz-metal. In don't actually hate this kind of music per se, since I like metal and jazz (leaning more heavily on jazz though) a lot, but the fusion of the two?........it just doesn't work. It's hard to have a swingin' beat when You play at 180-240 BPM.
D-Jizzy
Sep 22 2009, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (Joe Schmmo @ Sep 22 2009, 09:55 AM)

The worst metal, to Me, is what I call "decaf" metal. Some examples would be:
- Ska metal. Your metal should sound "metallic," and not like No Doubt or Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
- Vocalists who switch between guttural growls and pop-rock singing. Either one or the other, not both (kinda ties in with previous entry).
- Faked death metal. If You're not a devil worshiper, don't be playing devil worship music. That's like Spinal Tap trying to be N.W.A.
- Jazz-metal. In don't actually hate this kind of music per se, since I like metal and jazz (leaning more heavily on jazz though) a lot, but the fusion of the two?........it just doesn't work. It's hard to have a swingin' beat when You play at 180-240 BPM.
The half of this, ska metal? Jazz metal? Wtf are those?!
And I disagree with your second entry. I see metal vocalists who switch between growling and singing (although...not pop-ish singing) to be more refined...
Rene
Sep 22 2009, 11:48 AM
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Sep 22 2009, 07:33 AM)

QUOTE (Fruityfed @ Sep 21 2009, 08:23 PM)

'Scuse me if I'm seeing something that's not there, but uh, parody topic, anyone?
It's a real possibility, Definition is a smart and snakety fellow. But the joke is on us anyway. I mean just look at what has been written, what's metal, what's not metal, purity of metal, etc, etc. We're all a bunch of snobs.
There are so many sub genres that nobody even has a clue anymore. Even so, why does everyone care so much about it?
Joe Schmmo
Sep 22 2009, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Sep 22 2009, 11:40 AM)

QUOTE (Joe Schmmo @ Sep 22 2009, 09:55 AM)

The worst metal, to Me, is what I call "decaf" metal. Some examples would be:
- Ska metal. Your metal should sound "metallic," and not like No Doubt or Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
- Vocalists who switch between guttural growls and pop-rock singing. Either one or the other, not both (kinda ties in with previous entry).
- Faked death metal. If You're not a devil worshiper, don't be playing devil worship music. That's like Spinal Tap trying to be N.W.A.
- Jazz-metal. In don't actually hate this kind of music per se, since I like metal and jazz (leaning more heavily on jazz though) a lot, but the fusion of the two?........it just doesn't work. It's hard to have a swingin' beat when You play at 180-240 BPM.
The half of this, ska metal? Jazz metal? Wtf are those?!
And I disagree with your second entry. I see metal vocalists who switch between growling and singing (although...not pop-ish singing) to be more refined...
I think it was Bullet for My Valentine, My Bloody Valentine, or something with 'Valentine' in it, among others whose names I can't remember, that were trying to put a ska beat to metal lyrics/vocals. Sounded like Marylin Manson on morphine.
Naked City and 16-17 tried to combine elements of jazz music with metal music, and the 2 don't really go together that well. Naked City was too fragmented, while 16-17 sounded more like instrumental Ministry (with a saxophone).
Fang
Sep 22 2009, 02:33 PM
Personally, I love death metal. I hate the stuff like Slayer and Metallica.
Okay, flame away
Vera
Sep 22 2009, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Jordo @ Sep 22 2009, 01:38 AM)

Metals to good for you guys.
It's also too good for apostrophes and proper spelling.
QUOTE
Personally, I love death metal. I hate the stuff like Slayer and Metallica.
Okay, flame away

This doesn't make sense. Metallica and Slayer are thrash metal, and death metal is essentially thrash metal with cookie monster vocals.
D-Jizzy
Sep 22 2009, 02:55 PM
These days, death metal tends to be a bit more polished than thrash. If he's referring to classic death metal, then yes, you're right.
Guitarguy
Sep 22 2009, 03:27 PM
Any heavy metal band. I don't enjoy people screaming in my ears.
Vera
Sep 22 2009, 05:28 PM
QUOTE (Guitarguy @ Sep 22 2009, 03:27 PM)

Any heavy metal band. I don't enjoy people screaming in my ears.
This is what is often considered the first metal song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJqhScdbo8IIt doesn't have any screaming.
The majority of metal bands today use screaming or growling vocals constantly, but that's not one of the required elements of the genre.
jack-nicholson
Sep 22 2009, 05:38 PM
QUOTE (Joe Schmmo @ Sep 22 2009, 11:57 AM)

I think it was Bullet for My Valentine, My Bloody Valentine, or something with 'Valentine' in it, among others whose names I can't remember, that were trying to put a ska beat to metal lyrics/vocals. Sounded like Marylin Manson on morphine.
Get your music straight! My Bloody Valentine is not metal nor even close, they are a legendary band in their own genre. So whatever.
Anyone wanna give me some links to Ska Metal? I'm really curious
iToast
Sep 22 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (jack-nicholson @ Sep 22 2009, 11:38 PM)

QUOTE (Joe Schmmo @ Sep 22 2009, 11:57 AM)

I think it was Bullet for My Valentine, My Bloody Valentine, or something with 'Valentine' in it, among others whose names I can't remember, that were trying to put a ska beat to metal lyrics/vocals. Sounded like Marylin Manson on morphine.
Get your music straight! My Bloody Valentine is not metal nor even close, they are a legendary band in their own genre. So whatever.
Anyone wanna give me some links to Ska Metal? I'm really curious
Random Hand (I, Human is my personal favourite).
Whitey
Sep 24 2009, 11:42 AM
Lol death metal.
Most "newer" death metal band suck. There are only a few bands who are actually any good. Gorguts, Morbid Angel or Atheist to name a few.
If you listen to Cannibal Corpse please reconsider your meaning in life.
Pixel Bunnie
Sep 24 2009, 01:00 PM
QUOTE (Joe Schmmo @ Sep 23 2009, 04:57 AM)

I think it was Bullet for My Valentine, My Bloody Valentine, or something with 'Valentine' in it, among others whose names I can't remember, that were trying to put a ska beat to metal lyrics/vocals. Sounded like Marylin Manson on morphine.
Naked City and 16-17 tried to combine elements of jazz music with metal music, and the 2 don't really go together that well. Naked City was too fragmented, while 16-17 sounded more like instrumental Ministry (with a saxophone).
You definitely mean Bullet for my Valentine; they're awful. My Bloody Valentine on the other hand are simply amazing.
I don't consider Nu-Metal, metal. Like Whitey pointed out, bands like Slipknot et cetera make me want to gag.
I mostly like melodic, symphonic and death metal.
Sodom
Oct 8 2009, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 11:22 PM)

QUOTE (Halfway To Heaven @ Sep 21 2009, 05:14 PM)

QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 05:02 PM)

Glam
nuff said
Nu metal is a lot worse than glam ever was.
..yeah.......
no, not really, i say Nu metal is way better than glam
favorite band is Nu-metal so there's really no point arguing with me
that and they don't really need to look like drag queens to put on a good show
Yes because, as we all know, wearing masks and backwards/sideways hats is always better.
3volution
Oct 8 2009, 03:43 PM
Nu-Metal.
Samurai Kenji
Oct 8 2009, 03:54 PM
QUOTE (Sodom @ Oct 8 2009, 04:05 PM)

QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 11:22 PM)

QUOTE (Halfway To Heaven @ Sep 21 2009, 05:14 PM)

QUOTE (Hallowed be thy Raide @ Sep 21 2009, 05:02 PM)

Glam
nuff said
Nu metal is a lot worse than glam ever was.
..yeah.......
no, not really, i say Nu metal is way better than glam
favorite band is Nu-metal so there's really no point arguing with me
that and they don't really need to look like drag queens to put on a good show
Yes because, as we all know, wearing masks and backwards/sideways hats is always better.
Slipknot =/= all Nu Metal and neither does Limp Bizkit (i assume thats where the backward hats from, just a guess though) Infact Nu metal tends to have the least flamboyantly dressed people out of any genre i've seen. as I've said before i like Nu metal but i agree it's not very good music overall.
DenialOfService
Oct 8 2009, 08:32 PM
Dude metallica is like the best band ever.
Nyarlathotep
Nov 1 2009, 07:45 PM
QUOTE (Breaker @ Oct 8 2009, 08:32 PM)

Dude metallica is like the best band ever.
You seem to be lacking grammatical skills- the past tense of "to be" is was.
Anyways, Queensryche, The Black Dahila Murder, and Trivium are the worst metal bands in my opinion.
Sodom
Nov 1 2009, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Nyarlathotep @ Nov 1 2009, 07:45 PM)

QUOTE (Breaker @ Oct 8 2009, 08:32 PM)

Dude metallica is like the best band ever.
You seem to be lacking grammatical skills- the past tense of "to be" is was.
Anyways, Queensryche, The Black Dahila Murder, and Trivium are the worst metal bands in my opinion.
I agreed with your post whote-heartedly until I saw Queensryche in your list.
D-Jizzy
Nov 1 2009, 09:49 PM
I think most of metalcore is crap. There are of course exceptions, but yeah.
cjgone
Nov 1 2009, 10:25 PM
nu-metal is bad
glam metal is bad
death metal, progressive metal is the best.
D-Jizzy
Nov 1 2009, 11:17 PM
Yes, I agree, glam metal is with 0-3 exceptions, bad.
Jordo
Nov 1 2009, 11:17 PM
Chuck Norris will roundhouse kick you for saying metal sucks.
Mr Grieves
Nov 4 2009, 10:08 AM
QUOTE (Jordo @ Nov 2 2009, 04:17 AM)

Chuck Norris will roundhouse kick you for saying metal sucks.
Chuck Norris sucks.
3volution
Nov 5 2009, 04:22 PM
Nu-Metal.
Black Metal is usually OK until the vocalist can't scream. *COUGH*Mayhem*COUGH*
Oh ya Glam Metal, not metal it's rock.
Whitey
Nov 5 2009, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (3volution @ Nov 5 2009, 09:22 PM)

Black Metal is usually OK until the vocalist can't scream. *COUGH*Mayhem*COUGH*
De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas is one of the best pieces of music to come out of that scene. Apart from a few tracks to feature Dead on vocals the band are pretty much bland after that.
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