finisterra
Oct 2 2009, 10:06 PM
So yeah, that's the question. Please state why you would do it or why you wouldn't.
I personally would have no problem with doing it, as relationships aren't all about sex. I'll post more as others comment.
By the way, I guess this would have a better result in the Debate Room rather than in the Polls and Surveys section.
Vera
Oct 2 2009, 10:14 PM
I believe that love is possible without sex. I should also mention that if it was the other way around and I had HIV, I wouldn't mind my lover having sex with someone else.
ZacharyB
Oct 2 2009, 10:19 PM
If it was true love, then yes, I would. I'd even have sex with her, since I would have to be willing to die with her (I'd still use protection anyway).
D-Jizzy
Oct 2 2009, 10:47 PM
I would use protection when having sex, but yes, I don't view relationships of the romantic sort as purely about sex, so...I wouldn't be too bothered about it.
Samurai Kenji
Oct 3 2009, 07:42 AM
NO SHE CAN GIVE ME HIV WITH A HANDSHAKE ASDFASDFASD!!!!!
No but honestly i wouldn't i'm not the type of person who goes for long term relationships anyways. Whenever i "date" someone It's more or less just leasing/renting a prostitute, and if i'm gonna do that i'de prefer she clean.
(Wonder why i haven't had a date in 2 years?)
Phoenix Rider
Oct 3 2009, 07:56 AM
Those who believe relationships are all about sex are really shallow people. Love can prosper well without it. And even if it is done, there are ways to control the spread of the disease.
Magic Of Woodcut
Oct 3 2009, 08:04 AM
Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
I don't think I could cope with a long term relationship.
You can delay it, but eventually they will develop AIDS. I know I could grow close to someone who has the condition, but I don't know that I would be able to stand losing them so quickly.
Dreak
Oct 3 2009, 09:58 AM
have a relation? maybe
have sex? not at all, not even with condoms
Scrum
Oct 3 2009, 10:41 AM
I'd go out with her, but I wouldn't have sex. Relationships aren't all about sex
Also she couldn't bleed whatsoever
Whitey
Oct 3 2009, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (Vera @ Oct 3 2009, 03:14 AM)

I believe that love is possible without sex.
We seem to cope

.
I don't see a problem. A small percentage of relationships actually spend all there time having sex anyway so many people could cope.
Everyone in this topic is only concerned about themselves and sex. So heartless omfg.
Twist of Fate
Oct 3 2009, 06:04 PM
It would be a great loss, but if I was in love I'd probably know the pain I'd be getting into. That person who is in love with me would probably be grateful I was there for them.
I've seen Rent, I know these things.
D-Jizzy
Oct 3 2009, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 06:53 PM)

Everyone in this topic is only concerned about themselves and sex. So heartless omfg.

Hi, you don't seem to have been reading the topic. Please check again to make sure that your ridiculous, sweeping generalization is correct. Have a nice day!
Gavin
Oct 4 2009, 05:34 PM
The questions a bit weird. The fact that you put date suggests that you have only just started seeing this person as opposed to stay in a relationship with someone. In that case, I doubt you could truly love them at that point and so I would say no because I would not be able to cope.
If I was going out with someone though who had HIV, I would of course still continue with preparation as the inevitable will happen eventually. Or if they're thriving on drugs then I guess adjust.
Finway
Oct 4 2009, 08:30 PM
Yes. Relationships aren't always about sex.
QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Oct 4 2009, 12:37 PM)

QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 06:53 PM)

Everyone in this topic is only concerned about themselves and sex. So heartless omfg.

Hi, you don't seem to have been reading the topic. Please check again to make sure that your ridiculous, sweeping generalization is correct. Have a nice day!
Everyone is only addressing the issue of not having sex, rather than the issue that their partner's condition could become serious and kill them in quite a short amount of time.
YOU are the one reading incorrectly.
Goggie
Oct 5 2009, 12:25 AM
If in love, yes. I'd want to stand by their side and make the most of the time they have left, I doubt I would be able to leave my lover if my feelings were that strong for them.
Maggotswr
Oct 5 2009, 01:07 AM
"feelings overshadow reason"

so yes.
if you are thinking logically then you aren't in love
LightSlei
Oct 5 2009, 01:13 AM
QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 09:28 AM)

I don't think I could cope with a long term relationship.
You can delay it, but eventually they will develop AIDS. I know I could grow close to someone who has the condition, but I don't know that I would be able to stand losing them so quickly.
Just because someone has AIDS does not mean they will die quickly.
There's a kid I know, 8 years old who's had AIDS since birth.
Personally I look at relationships to have fun with someone enjoys me for being myself and I enjoy them for being themselves. No sex needed.
Egghebrecht
Oct 5 2009, 04:24 AM
QUOTE (Magic Of Woodcut @ Oct 3 2009, 03:04 PM)

Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
i want kids....
and in case you didn't notice yet
that involves sex...
QUOTE (LightSlei @ Oct 5 2009, 04:13 PM)

QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 09:28 AM)

I don't think I could cope with a long term relationship.
You can delay it, but eventually they will develop AIDS. I know I could grow close to someone who has the condition, but I don't know that I would be able to stand losing them so quickly.
Just because someone has AIDS does not mean they will die quickly.
There's a kid I know, 8 years old who's had AIDS since birth.
Personally I look at relationships to have fun with someone enjoys me for being myself and I enjoy them for being themselves. No sex needed.
AIDS since birth or HIV since birth? If AIDS, that's fudgeing amazing.
Anyway, the worry would be a constant torment. I know it's weak to deny a relationship because of that fear, but I don't cope well with loss.
Kwinten
Oct 5 2009, 06:08 AM
I'm not an egocentric person, but I wouldn't. Not because of the no sex thing, but because I don't wanna have to go through losing the person I love at a quite young age.
And to be honest I actually wanna have a family too.
Choccy
Oct 5 2009, 06:19 AM
QUOTE (LightSlei @ Oct 5 2009, 02:13 AM)

QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 09:28 AM)

I don't think I could cope with a long term relationship.
You can delay it, but eventually they will develop AIDS. I know I could grow close to someone who has the condition, but I don't know that I would be able to stand losing them so quickly.
Just because someone has AIDS does not mean they will die quickly.
There's a kid I know, 8 years old who's had AIDS since birth.
Personally I look at relationships to have fun with someone enjoys me for being myself and I enjoy them for being themselves. No sex needed.
You can get treatment that will let you live with HIV for about 10 years, I probably wouldn't because I don't want to commit myself to someone who will die long before me, also no sex would be pretty hard..

I wouldn't say it's worthy of a debate however because it's too much of a sensitive opinion based topic, and everyone is different so reacts differently.
LightSlei
Oct 5 2009, 06:27 AM
QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 5 2009, 06:34 AM)

QUOTE (LightSlei @ Oct 5 2009, 04:13 PM)

QUOTE (Dad @ Oct 3 2009, 09:28 AM)

I don't think I could cope with a long term relationship.
You can delay it, but eventually they will develop AIDS. I know I could grow close to someone who has the condition, but I don't know that I would be able to stand losing them so quickly.
Just because someone has AIDS does not mean they will die quickly.
There's a kid I know, 8 years old who's had AIDS since birth.
Personally I look at relationships to have fun with someone enjoys me for being myself and I enjoy them for being themselves. No sex needed.
AIDS since birth or HIV since birth? If AIDS, that's fudgeing amazing.
Anyway, the worry would be a constant torment. I know it's weak to deny a relationship because of that fear, but I don't cope well with loss.
Yes, AIDS not HIV.
You have to have a bit more faith in people.
But then again my personal wants of a relationship are different then yours or others probably which is why I wouldn't mind dating someone with HIV. I just want someone that enjoys me for being me, and I enjoy them for being themselves.
QUOTE (LightSlei @ Oct 5 2009, 09:27 PM)

Yes, AIDS not HIV.
You have to have a bit more faith in people.
But then again my personal wants of a relationship are different then yours or others probably which is why I wouldn't mind dating someone with HIV. I just want someone that enjoys me for being me, and I enjoy them for being themselves.
Ok. They're lucky.

And what? Lack of faith in people? Where have I hinted at anything that could trigger that comment?

One of my
wants in a long-term relationship is a long-term relationship. Another one is at some point knowing they are there to stay. I know it's a horrible way to put it, but it's true.
finisterra
Oct 6 2009, 03:08 PM
QUOTE (Egghebrecht @ Oct 5 2009, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE (Magic Of Woodcut @ Oct 3 2009, 03:04 PM)

Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
i want kids....
and in case you didn't notice yet
that involves sex...
I know that it obviously isn't the same, but you can always adopt kids.
Dreak
Oct 6 2009, 03:31 PM
QUOTE (finisterra @ Oct 6 2009, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (Egghebrecht @ Oct 5 2009, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE (Magic Of Woodcut @ Oct 3 2009, 03:04 PM)

Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
i want kids....
and in case you didn't notice yet
that involves sex...
I know that it obviously isn't the same, but you can always adopt kids.
no offence, i think they are going to give the baby to the not hiv-infected family first.
Samurai Kenji
Oct 6 2009, 03:40 PM
QUOTE (Dreak @ Oct 6 2009, 04:31 PM)

QUOTE (finisterra @ Oct 6 2009, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (Egghebrecht @ Oct 5 2009, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE (Magic Of Woodcut @ Oct 3 2009, 03:04 PM)

Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
i want kids....
and in case you didn't notice yet
that involves sex...
I know that it obviously isn't the same, but you can always adopt kids.
no offence, i think they are going to give the baby to the not hiv-infected family first.
Why would they? It's not like it kills in a couple weeks. By the time whoever has the HIV dies the child would be grown-up and mature enough to handle it and the single parent would have had a while to prepare for it. Plus it's quite possible that treatments like Mr. Magic Johnson recieves to keep himself in decent health despite his HIV will become publicly availible pretty soon.
finisterra
Oct 6 2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Dreak @ Oct 6 2009, 04:31 PM)

QUOTE (finisterra @ Oct 6 2009, 10:08 PM)

QUOTE (Egghebrecht @ Oct 5 2009, 05:24 AM)

QUOTE (Magic Of Woodcut @ Oct 3 2009, 03:04 PM)

Simple: Don't have sex with the person. (Yes, btw).
i want kids....
and in case you didn't notice yet
that involves sex...
I know that it obviously isn't the same, but you can always adopt kids.
no offence, i think they are going to give the baby to the not hiv-infected family first.
Only one of the members is HIV infected.
Scotsfan
Oct 6 2009, 04:15 PM
QUOTE (Dreak @ Oct 6 2009, 09:31 PM)

no offence, i think they are going to give the baby to the not hiv-infected family first.
I'm sorry, but this post has made me really angry.
Just because they have HIV, it's not as if they're going to have sexual interaction while the adopted child. Does it make them any less of a loving father/mother figure? No, it would make them EVEN MORE in my opinion.
D-Jizzy
Oct 6 2009, 04:19 PM
QUOTE (Scotsfan @ Oct 6 2009, 05:15 PM)

QUOTE (Dreak @ Oct 6 2009, 09:31 PM)

no offence, i think they are going to give the baby to the not hiv-infected family first.
I'm sorry, but this post has made me really angry.
Just because they have HIV, it's not as if they're going to have sexual interaction while the adopted child. Does it make them any less of a loving father/mother figure? No, it would make them EVEN MORE in my opinion.
I don't really see what's angering in it.
Sure, his logic is completely nonexistent...but still.
Jose0
Oct 8 2009, 04:47 PM
Meh, if you truly are in love, you don't give a crap about anything. So, yes.
Gavin
Oct 10 2009, 06:33 AM
QUOTE (Meidou @ Oct 6 2009, 09:40 PM)

Why would they? It's not like it kills in a couple weeks. By the time whoever has the HIV dies the child would be grown-up and mature enough to handle it and the single parent would have had a while to prepare for it. Plus it's quite possible that treatments like Mr. Magic Johnson recieves to keep himself in decent health despite his HIV will become publicly availible pretty soon.
QUOTE (Scotsfan @ Oct 6 2009, 10:15 PM)

I'm sorry, but this post has made me really angry.
Just because they have HIV, it's not as if they're going to have sexual interaction while the adopted child. Does it make them any less of a loving father/mother figure? No, it would make them EVEN MORE in my opinion.
Eh.. I still would rather pick a family without HIV. The thing about the parent dieing doesn't really make sense. I don't think anyone gets to a point where they can fully handle the death of a parent. I would much rather have a healthy parent than a parent who is sick taking after my kids. A load of problems like social/financial could arise from all of it.
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