I've seen a lot of these topics in the past, but somehow every time ROCK SEEMS TO HAVE THE MOST SUPPORT!

Apart from the fact that most rock is a LOAD OF EARBLEEDING shizzle, rap has a couple of gems up its sleeve... for instance:

LIL KIM - Beautiful sound, so awesome.
CHINGY - RIGHT THURRRRRRR. 'Nuff said.
50 CENT - This man is an absolute POET! His rhyming is so clean he could be a maid or some shizzle.
LIL WAYNE - A MILLI A MILLI A MILLI-ILLI-MILLI A MILLILAMILLI fudge YES THIS GUY IS AWEOME I COULD SPEND YEARS JUST LISTENING TO THAT SONG ALONE!


Then we look at the terrible music pumped out by various types of rock. Anyone playing Metallica, Slipknot, Megadeth, SOAD or Disturbed needs to die. Like, right now. I don't care that they're popular in your little preschool, WHAT THEY PRODUCE IS ON PAR TO THE SOUND OF A GIRAFFE DIEING!

Has anyone ever heard of a rockstar getting any chicks? Like ever? NO! That's because the rappers have the hos LINING UP!

Pssh, I've said what I came to say. Let's see what sal's has to say in return.

Dad out.

You sicken me with your hippity hop. Rock is magical and rad.

Rap is all just a bunch of drugs, sexism, and violence. It's corrupting our youths and requires no artistic input in the least.

This is whats wrong with this generation. All you guys are focused on is banging the next white ass that passes you on the street? This is why rap is so rampant amongst teens, cause they are all moral-less muppetbags. Why cant we go back to the old days where we used actual instruments and sang about being an iron man!!

OMG LOLO!!!!! NOOBS! YOU FAIL AT LYFE! YOURE JUST JEALOUS YOUR MUSIC DOESNT GET AS MUCH TAIL AS MY EMINEM BEATS!

Firstly i love disturbed, system of a down and slipknot.

And seconly after crazy frog lil wayne is the most annoying sound ever created!

Rock > me

The only trouble your using some of the worst examples in hip hop and rock. (Apart from Dave's Megadeth@!@@)

Still there are so many better people in hip hop that Lil Wayne. Your argument is void.

You can listen to whatever crap you like without me hating you, the second you hate on Metal to a Metalhead. You die. Or if your on the internet get flamed to hell. Luckily you're on the internet.

All rap is is "nice doggy! SLAP MA HO" "HOS IN DA CRIB" "I GET MONEY I GET MONEY" Etc. Generic beats made by machines, talentless people pressing random notes on a keyboard and somehow you got drowned out bass in this mix.

Btw obivous troll is obvious.

Rap is like that because they have hos to slap! They HAVE MONEY. Rap is where the cash and where the ass is at.

and i bet you couldn't rap if you tried dont be dissing when you cant even stand up in a contest

Also, don't ever feed trolls. Why'd you reply LOL?

Hardly. Yes some artists seem to rap about certain things but like rock/metal; hip hop and electronic music has a much wider spectrum than the obivious mainstream junk.

Examples;
Deltron 3030. Awesome hip hop which isn't about cribs or women.
J Dilla

Also the same applies to rock; most popular rock from the 1970's sing about sex, money and music. I would post Nickelback's Rockstar for example (but I don't want to cry because it's so awful).

It's very easy to criticize music and other so called 'genres'. But the truth of the matter when it comes to comparing or criticizing different genres you can't find comparisons due to it being different.

Rock > Rap
Rock is where the history is. Oh, as well as the good music.

How is history relevant to musical quality?

Music is about expressing ideas, unlike 99% of rap artists who are in it for the money and the "ho's".

And why would I even want to try to rap?

This is just turning into a debate, one which is becoming very annoying because it's posted like every week. This kind of debate is pointless, people have their own opinions and no one here will be able to change that.
Personally I like rap, it's hard to defend because of the amount of crap people make, for the money.
But if you look past the dick heads who make shizzle rhymes you'll find some decent rappers whose songs have meaning and actually sound good.
For people who don't like rap, listen to the lyrics and you'll find a message. If you like rock and don't speak gangster, look them up.
Some decent rappers like Eminem and Snoop are like Tupac's heir, they are doing good things with the music.

How are you giving this bloke so many bites?

Jesus Christ your ridiculously arrogant. It's fine for you to hate on someone else's music, but when they say something about your taste it's wrong and "you die."? From what I recall you don't even listen to good metal.

Grime is way better than rap, like, insanely better. In every way. I'm no fan of rap, but I prefer it over metal. Drum and Bass and Dubstep are the ones for me

EVERY genre has history, bro. It has its high points, its low points, mile stones, as well as deaths. You're saying that rock is so great just because it has the same thing that every other genre has. You can't even define what good music is, because music isn't limited to fact. It all opinion. If you like that music and don't realize that, you're obviously going to call it good music, which is a mistake. It's just the music you listen to and that's where it ends.

In my mind, Rock is rediculously better than Rap.

Eww, modern music, me likes the REAL metal bands, from the 80's and 90's.

BURN BURN BURN THE WITCH!

If you had listed any real rappers i might have agreed with you in saying that Rap>Rock

No really get a taste in music plz and ty.



Sad that all the rappers you listed are Gay and/or have AIDS.

Anyways i prefer Harder Rap and Rock and don't have much of a preference over either. It takes very little talent to be an OK rapper or Rock musician but it takes quite a bit to be Great at either.

Seriously though aside from 50 cent you listed pop-artists and 50-cent is terrible. Listen to some real rap plz and ty?

I like country.

Both mainstream rock and rap suck. I can't see how people listen to someone rappin' about dem dollars and them womenz. And mainstream rock is the same verse chorus over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I would like to mention that both the best and the worst rap artists have dirty, offensive, sexist, and gangsta-gangsta kind of lyrics. In example: Nearly every popular rapper of today is awful and they're very repetitive with HO'S AND MONEYS AND GATS but N.W.A and Wu-Tang were ten times as vulgar and some of the greatest rappers ever.

Everyone knows the 80s and 90s had glam metal bands. Glam metal is not real metal because I said so.
Now that I said something that you guys can understand, we can have a discussion.

50 cent isn't real rap?
He's one of the most accomplished and popular rappers there is.

His first album was the biggest seller for that whole year.
He has sold over 40 million records and he is worth over 440 mil US. One of the best rappers ever signed him.
He isn't terrible, he is far from it.

Couldn't care less about what people listen to. I'll take three of my best male friends as an example. One of them listens to rap, another one to techno, and another one to pop. I like rock better than all of those, but that doesn't mean it's better. I'm not the person to judge another person's taste or the way they experience music. None is better, and will never be. So yeah, I don't really give a shizzle about people who think I listen to crap or whatever. I honestly don't care what other people listen to, as long as they don't force me to listen to it too.

Ok, what is your idea of "Good metal"

Older metal. Not modern day metal bands, some hardcore bands are ok though, but I dislike modern metal.

Taker has been decieved! Not the mainstream stuff @@@@ Me likes actual metal, not people with fluffy hair

Come on, you just KNOW rock is better, all throughout the years... From Chuck Berry till bands like Tool and Dream Theater nowadays. It just owns rap and it takes waaaaaaaaay more talent to make (I'm talking about good rock).

No, i said he was the only real rapper on the short list the OP suggested.

Theres no doubt 50 cents genre is rap but i personally think he makes my ears hurt and doesn't rap about anything 1/2 interesting.

Also Popularity =/= actual talent, look at Miley Cyrus.

They both have their merits and it is ignorant of anyone to try and judge on genre over another.

amidoinitrite?

last time I checked music was about putting lyrics and good beats together.

Nobody posted this yet?

"Music is like chocolate bars, you dispose of all the (w)rappers."

Fixed post.

Rock (prog rock, classic rock, hard rock, etc) is better than rap to meh. Also so is metal, since that's been dragged into the discussion.

Rap is okay (barring the Gangsta and thug rap), but Rock is much more original and easy to listen to. Plus you could say all rap is about the same. NOT the same with rock

urdoinitrite

I like a few rappers and rap groups, even if my place is with the rockers (listening to JET atm...)

I also like artists who mix the two (well).

I'm sick of the old "there's no good music being made these days". It just shows that you're ignorant to the excellent underground scenes.

True Dat, preach it.

I love rap far more than Rock.

Kid Cudi, Drake, Chamillionaire, Wiz Khalifa, Eminem, Kanye West, Z-Ro, Ya Boy, Slim Thug, Ludacris, Dorrough, Young Buck.
Makes up my better half of rap library.

Agreed. A genre is OK when you skim the top of it but to find those gems you need to delve into it.


Yep I'm a little sick of it but people are passionate about music and sometimes are blinded, of course there are those select few who can see past those barriers, I for one applaud them.


Um that's ironic due to the fact most of them aren't underground .

the only rap i listen to now is old skool rap, nice n smooth, nas, biggie, 2pac just perople like that
i hate rap nowadays, too mainstream

btw im 13

Hm, I wonder why that is?

I tend to have well known artist with music you will probably never heard of, too.
For example, under Dorrough, you'll find Ice Cream, but you will also find 10 songs by him that you have most likely never heard.
Same thing for Ludacris, Chamillionaire, Kanye, etc.
My artists may be well known, but the songs by them that I own won't be.

All it takes to be good at rap is being good at metaphors.

Damn straight.

I've been helplessly addicted to a band I found out about after I got here on campus, we ended up going to a concert doing orientation and there was this fudgeing cool electro-experimental band there and OH DAMN IT'S FUN.

plain and simple.
1 answer: You cant compare two different genres. It just doesnt work. They ear likes what the ear likes. These type of topics are rather useless, just an excuse to get posts and flamee music you dont like.

^
Dam right.

Lupe fiasco, kid cudi, jay z (to an extent), kanye (to an extent), shad, etc.



Good, now say something constructive.



That argument can be made for rock too.

See the reply to evolution.



Nice, now say something constructive.

Um, please don't put Slipknot as an example. Slipknot is garbage and isn't even a genre. They're the worst band ever so there's no point of using the most stereotypical garbage as an example. But what's ironic is that slipknot is more related to rap then pretty much any other genre.