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Flames

Oct 11 2009, 01:36 AM

Welcome to the Windows Thread!

Discuss anything having to do with Windows!

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Windows 7 News

In this section, I will try to post interesting headlines on Windows 7.

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November 20, 2009
Windows 7 Record Sales Figures
November 18, 2009
Windows 7 RTM December 2009 Cumulative Time Zone Update
November 15, 2009
Microsoft Reacts to Windows 7 0-Day DoS Vulnerability
November 12, 2009
Microsoft's new vision
Zero-Day Windows 7 RTM DoS Vulnerability Has PoC Published in the Wild
Windows 7 Beta Bots Caused the Build 7000 Availability Delay
Windows Live Adds YouTube as Feed Partner
Free Microsoft Security Tool Fights Rogues Masquerading as Windows Security Solutions
Componentized and Embedded Windows 7 CTP2 Coming in the Next Month
Patch Critical Windows Kernel Flaw in Vista SP2 and XP SP3
November 8, 2009
Windows 7 SP1 Here By Summer 2010?
October 31, 2009
Windows 8, and So It Begins
October 18, 2009
Windows Live Photo Gallery: Necessity or Forgettable?
October 14, 2009
Need to promote Windows 7? Lucky there’s a Family Guy!
Which Security Program Is Best For Windows 7
October 13, 2009
Odds and Ends, Part Two: Calculator, Snipping Tool, and Math Input Panel
How to Get Blue Ray Support In Windows 7
Get Windows 7 For Free As A VHD
ViGlance: Add Windows 7 SuperBar To Windows XP
Windows 7 Compatibility Center Will Launch With Windows 7
Overcoming software bloat and slowdown. What Microsoft should have done
October 12, 2009
Odds and Ends, Part One: Sticky Notes, Magnifier, and Bluetooth File Transfer
Follow Up: Windows 7 Boots Slower Than Vista?
Windows 7 Boots Slower Than Vista?
October 11, 2009
Firefox 3.7 Will Add Windows 7 Jumplist Support
How To Clean Install Windows 7 From XP or Vista

Windows Suggestions

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Tips and Guides for Windows Users! BETA

Welcome to the new Tips and Guides section. This section will provide you many guides that can assist you with anything having to do with the Windows operating system. Currently, it supports Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. While this thread is in BETA, it will be going through changes constantly. I will be adding sections to it to organize it and possibly some other things. Your job is to help find broken links, add new guides, and anything else that help this section grow to release stage!

How to Open Help Files (.hlp) in Windows 7 that Require Windows Help Program (WinHlp32.exe)?
How to Get Windows Vista and 7’s “Copy as Path” Option in Windows XP Context Menu?
Get Transparent Context Menus in Windows XP, Vista and 7
Transform Windows Vista into Windows 7 without using Customization Pack
Transform Windows XP into Windows 7 without using Customization Pack
Transform Windows XP into Windows Vista without using Customization Pack
Master Tutorial to Make Your Windows 7 Super Fast
How to Reset / Recover Forgotten Windows NT / 2000 / XP / 2003 Administrator Password?
Force Microsoft Internet Explorer to Always Use Google Chrome Frame to Open URLs
Make User Account Control (UAC) Stop Blacking Out the Screen in Windows 7 or Vista
Uninstall, Disable, or Delete Internet Explorer 8 from Windows 7
Easily Backup & Import Your Wireless Network Settings in Windows 7
Make Windows 7 or Vista Log On Automatically
Download Windows XP “Luna” Theme for Windows 7
Download Windows Vista Theme for Windows 7
How to Install & Use 3rd Party (Custom) Themes in Windows 7?
How to Remove Windows 7 RC Watermark (Build Info) from Desktop?
Windows 7 Boot Screen Changed to Vista Style
Ultimate Collection of Uninstallers / Removal Tools for All Popular Anti-Virus Software
How to Change Power Button in Windows Vista to Shut Down the System instead of Sleep?
How to Show AM / PM Symbols in System Tray Clock in Windows 7
Solution: Windows Vista Explorer Hangs while Copying Files from External Media
Solution: Recycle Bin Icon on Desktop Doesn’t Refresh Automatically in Windows Vista
How to Remove Linux Boot Loader From Startup After Deleting Linux Partition on a Dual-Boot System?
How to Re-Enable Missing Details Pane in Windows Vista and 7 Explorer?
How to Disable “Libraries” Feature in Windows 7?
How to Enable / Disable Animations in Copy / Move / Delete Dialog Boxes Under Windows Vista and 7?
Solution: File & Folder Names are not Visible in Windows Explorer
How to Tweak User Account Control (UAC) Options in Windows Vista Home Basic & Home Premium?
How to Restore Recycle Bin Icon on Desktop in Windows Vista & Server 2008?
How to Remove Windows has Blocked Some Startup Programs Notification in Windows Vista?
How to Enable / Activate Hidden Administrator Account in Windows Vista and 7

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redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 01:39 AM

Hey man, this really isn't the section for these types of threads. It's not like Other games or the Fakes forums where you'd need to group tons of things under one umbrella.

And Windows Mobile sucks.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 01:40 AM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 10 2009, 11:39 PM)

Hey man, this really isn't the section for these types of threads. It's not like Other games or the Fakes forums where you'd need to group tons of things under one umbrella.

And Windows Mobile sucks.

Really? Is it gonna get moved or closed?

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 01:41 AM

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 01:40 AM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 10 2009, 11:39 PM)

Hey man, this really isn't the section for these types of threads. It's not like Other games or the Fakes forums where you'd need to group tons of things under one umbrella.

And Windows Mobile sucks.

Really? Is it gonna get moved or closed?

I don't know, I'm not a mod.

Cattius

Oct 11 2009, 03:03 AM

I'm not sure whether you'll be able to keep this thread going or not, but well done so far anyway.

As for my answers to the poll:

1) My favourite version of Windows is 7, it's without a doubt the best version.
2) I am already using Windows 7, so no I won't need to upgrade

(Add 'current user of Windows 7' as a poll option plox.)
3) Yes, before I knew much about technology and before I researched pricing/hardware/OS X, I was seriously considering switching to Mac. Now however, I'm quite happy with Windows.
4) Yup, as a dedicated nerd I have to be kept up-to-date with the latest computer news and opinions

I subscribe to PC Pro but read several other magazines online.
5) No I don't use Windows Mobile, because it's inferior to several other smartphone OSes at the moment. Besides, I don't own a smartphone

EDIT: Also, Windows Mobile is now called Windows Phone, so you might want to change that.

King Aragorn

Oct 11 2009, 03:07 AM

Yup, WM sucks...

The interface is just... boooring... a SE phone has a better look...
Symbian rulz da smartphone market!

(Its over 50% that is Symbian of smartphones, which includes both S60 and UIQ) (Smartphones are so funny.. i got alot of games on my older S60, like Brothers in Arms 3 HD, Assassins Creed HD, Asphalt 4 HD, SpiderMan, alot.. )(I know that i am a smartphone phreak..)

I liked Windows 98.. and i like Windows 7... but for newer systems i have some special criterias. like ability to run Midtown Madness and other DOS games, better performance then last system, such.
I never liked Vista, it cant run DOS games..

(Messed up gfx and textures..)

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 11:02 AM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 01:03 AM)

I'm not sure whether you'll be able to keep this thread going or not, but well done so far anyway.

As for my answers to the poll:

1) My favourite version of Windows is 7, it's without a doubt the best version.
2) I am already using Windows 7, so no I won't need to upgrade

(Add 'current user of Windows 7' as a poll option plox.)
3) Yes, before I knew much about technology and before I researched pricing/hardware/OS X, I was seriously considering switching to Mac. Now however, I'm quite happy with Windows.
4) Yup, as a dedicated nerd I have to be kept up-to-date with the latest computer news and opinions

I subscribe to PC Pro but read several other magazines online.
5) No I don't use Windows Mobile, because it's inferior to several other smartphone OSes at the moment. Besides, I don't own a smartphone

EDIT: Also, Windows Mobile is now called Windows Phone, so you might want to change that.

I fixed all those things you told me to.

How did you get Windows 7 already?

I updated the Windows 7 news section with a couple articles if you want to check em' out.

Cattius

Oct 11 2009, 11:19 AM

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 05:02 PM)

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 01:03 AM)

I'm not sure whether you'll be able to keep this thread going or not, but well done so far anyway.

As for my answers to the poll:

1) My favourite version of Windows is 7, it's without a doubt the best version.
2) I am already using Windows 7, so no I won't need to upgrade

(Add 'current user of Windows 7' as a poll option plox.)
3) Yes, before I knew much about technology and before I researched pricing/hardware/OS X, I was seriously considering switching to Mac. Now however, I'm quite happy with Windows.
4) Yup, as a dedicated nerd I have to be kept up-to-date with the latest computer news and opinions

I subscribe to PC Pro but read several other magazines online.
5) No I don't use Windows Mobile, because it's inferior to several other smartphone OSes at the moment. Besides, I don't own a smartphone

EDIT: Also, Windows Mobile is now called Windows Phone, so you might want to change that.

I fixed all those things you told me to.

How did you get Windows 7 already?

I updated the Windows 7 news section with a couple articles if you want to check em' out.

See this post I made in another topic:

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 09:26 AM)

@above posts: The Windows 7 beta was made available to the public in early February (I think; so long ago now lol

), and the RTM in June?? (not sure - I have a really bad memory!). Anyway both of those were available free to the public then, so if you wanted Windows 7 you should have downloaded them. Also, MSDN subscribers have been able to download the final release version of Windows 7 legally for a while, that's the version I'm using.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 11:27 AM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 09:19 AM)

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 05:02 PM)

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 01:03 AM)

I'm not sure whether you'll be able to keep this thread going or not, but well done so far anyway.

As for my answers to the poll:

1) My favourite version of Windows is 7, it's without a doubt the best version.
2) I am already using Windows 7, so no I won't need to upgrade

(Add 'current user of Windows 7' as a poll option plox.)
3) Yes, before I knew much about technology and before I researched pricing/hardware/OS X, I was seriously considering switching to Mac. Now however, I'm quite happy with Windows.
4) Yup, as a dedicated nerd I have to be kept up-to-date with the latest computer news and opinions

I subscribe to PC Pro but read several other magazines online.
5) No I don't use Windows Mobile, because it's inferior to several other smartphone OSes at the moment. Besides, I don't own a smartphone

EDIT: Also, Windows Mobile is now called Windows Phone, so you might want to change that.

I fixed all those things you told me to.

How did you get Windows 7 already?

I updated the Windows 7 news section with a couple articles if you want to check em' out.

See this post I made in another topic:

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 09:26 AM)

@above posts: The Windows 7 beta was made available to the public in early February (I think; so long ago now lol

), and the RTM in June?? (not sure - I have a really bad memory!). Anyway both of those were available free to the public then, so if you wanted Windows 7 you should have downloaded them. Also, MSDN subscribers have been able to download the final release version of Windows 7 legally for a while, that's the version I'm using.

Oh okay, I see. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

EDIT: Alright I've been thinking about doing a clean install with Windows 7, but I have no experience with clean installs on laptops. With a clean install, doesn't it delete all the pre-installed essential programs that comes with the laptop?

Shpendi

Oct 11 2009, 11:38 AM

Windows Vista user.
Yes I will be upgrading to W7
Nope
Nope
Nope

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

_Ej

Oct 11 2009, 12:03 PM

1) Windows 7
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) No
5) No

Cattius

Oct 11 2009, 12:15 PM

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 05:38 PM)

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

To be fair, the taskbar/interface improvements are very good, the new display manager means a better overall user experience, security has been improved and a ton of features have been added. But then, I get it for free, so I guess I rave about it more than someone who has to factor in cost

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 05:27 PM)

EDIT: Alright I've been thinking about doing a clean install with Windows 7, but I have no experience with clean installs on laptops. With a clean install, doesn't it delete all the pre-installed essential programs that comes with the laptop?

Yes, everything is wiped in a clean install ON THE HARD DRIVE YOU INSTALL IT TO. So if you have more than one hard drive it won't wipe the non-install hard drive.

Anyway, just back up your documents and make sure you have the discs/product keys to reinstall your programs. What do you mean by pre-installed essential programs? If you mean drivers, you should have no problem. The absolutely imperative ones should be installed during the Windows install, and any others can be downloaded through Windows Update. If you mean the utter rubbish that comes with pre-built computers like 'OMG NORTONZ FREE TRIALZ!!!!' and 'UTTERLY POINTLESS PC SUITE!' then yes, you will lose them, although IMO that's an advantage

Caboose

Oct 11 2009, 12:52 PM

95, 98, XP, 7
Yes
No
No
No

Not so much an 'upgrade' to Windows 7, i'll just be using it side by side with Linux. Which Cat seems to have abandoned me on in favour of the Win7 RC

Kwinten

Oct 11 2009, 12:56 PM

Windows 7
Probably not
Yes
No
No

Strongly thinking of switching to a Mac by next summer. Till then, I'll have to live with Vista. Not gonna upgrade to Windows 7, although it's pretty cool.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 01:08 PM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 10:15 AM)

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 05:38 PM)

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

To be fair, the taskbar/interface improvements are very good, the new display manager means a better overall user experience, security has been improved and a ton of features have been added. But then, I get it for free, so I guess I rave about it more than someone who has to factor in cost

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 05:27 PM)

EDIT: Alright I've been thinking about doing a clean install with Windows 7, but I have no experience with clean installs on laptops. With a clean install, doesn't it delete all the pre-installed essential programs that comes with the laptop?

Yes, everything is wiped in a clean install ON THE HARD DRIVE YOU INSTALL IT TO. So if you have more than one hard drive it won't wipe the non-install hard drive.

Anyway, just back up your documents and make sure you have the discs/product keys to reinstall your programs. What do you mean by pre-installed essential programs? If you mean drivers, you should have no problem. The absolutely imperative ones should be installed during the Windows install, and any others can be downloaded through Windows Update. If you mean the utter rubbish that comes with pre-built computers like 'OMG NORTONZ FREE TRIALZ!!!!' and 'UTTERLY POINTLESS PC SUITE!' then yes, you will lose them, although IMO that's an advantage

When I say pre-installed essential programs, I mean the manufacturer's programs. I have a Toshiba Satellite and I have several programs that I don't really know are safe to uninstall. One of them is used to reinstall drivers that you have removed. One is used to backup all of your drivers on to a DVD. Others, to name a few, are Toshiba ConfigFree, Toshiba Service Station, Toshiba Matrix Storage, and Toshiba Hardware setup. Those I don't know if I can uninstall or not. I've tried looking most of them up, but I can't find anything that gives me details on when it should or can be used and whether it's necessary or not. So the thing that scares me is that if I do a clean install of Windows, will I need to get those programs back?

Shpendi

Oct 11 2009, 01:12 PM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 06:15 PM)

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 05:38 PM)

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

To be fair, the taskbar/interface improvements are very good, the new display manager means a better overall user experience, security has been improved and a ton of features have been added. But then, I get it for free, so I guess I rave about it more than someone who has to factor in cost

That's what I mean.

You could think of Windows 7 as being a massive SP for Windows Vista.

Amazon are currently selling W7 HP for £65, which isn't that bad for a whole OS. I might need to actually pre-order it before it goes to £150

Cattius

Oct 11 2009, 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Caboose @ Oct 11 2009, 06:52 PM)

Not so much an 'upgrade' to Windows 7, i'll just be using it side by side with Linux. Which Cat seems to have abandoned me on in favour of the Win7 RC

I haven't abandoned Linux! I still use it a bit, and to be fair I was telling someone about Linux in Polls and Surveys just this morning...but I massively prefer Windows 7 over any previous Windows version and so I'm mostly raving about that instead of Linux

Also I'm not using the RC

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 07:08 PM)

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 10:15 AM)

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 05:38 PM)

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

To be fair, the taskbar/interface improvements are very good, the new display manager means a better overall user experience, security has been improved and a ton of features have been added. But then, I get it for free, so I guess I rave about it more than someone who has to factor in cost

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 05:27 PM)

EDIT: Alright I've been thinking about doing a clean install with Windows 7, but I have no experience with clean installs on laptops. With a clean install, doesn't it delete all the pre-installed essential programs that comes with the laptop?

Yes, everything is wiped in a clean install ON THE HARD DRIVE YOU INSTALL IT TO. So if you have more than one hard drive it won't wipe the non-install hard drive.

Anyway, just back up your documents and make sure you have the discs/product keys to reinstall your programs. What do you mean by pre-installed essential programs? If you mean drivers, you should have no problem. The absolutely imperative ones should be installed during the Windows install, and any others can be downloaded through Windows Update. If you mean the utter rubbish that comes with pre-built computers like 'OMG NORTONZ FREE TRIALZ!!!!' and 'UTTERLY POINTLESS PC SUITE!' then yes, you will lose them, although IMO that's an advantage

When I say pre-installed essential programs, I mean the manufacturer's programs. I have a Toshiba Satellite and I have several programs that I don't really know are safe to uninstall. One of them is used to reinstall drivers that you have removed. One is used to backup all of your drivers on to a DVD. Others, to name a few, are Toshiba ConfigFree, Toshiba Service Station, Toshiba Matrix Storage, and Toshiba Hardware setup. Those I don't know if I can uninstall or not. I've tried looking most of them up, but I can't find anything that gives me details on when it should or can be used and whether it's necessary or not. So the thing that scares me is that if I do a clean install of Windows, will I need to get those programs back?

No you won't, you don't NEED any of those programs. If you find you miss the functionality, there are plenty of free alternatives that will do the same thing.

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 07:12 PM)

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 11 2009, 06:15 PM)

QUOTE (Shpendi @ Oct 11 2009, 05:38 PM)

I've tried out Windows 7, to be honest, there's nothing to be excited about. Sure there's tons of little fixes but there's nothing that truly amazes me. But, never the less I will upgrade once I get some external hard drive to back up all the crap I've downloaded.

To be fair, the taskbar/interface improvements are very good, the new display manager means a better overall user experience, security has been improved and a ton of features have been added. But then, I get it for free, so I guess I rave about it more than someone who has to factor in cost

That's what I mean.

You could think of Windows 7 as being a massive SP for Windows Vista.

Amazon are currently selling W7 HP for £65, which isn't that bad for a whole OS. I might need to actually pre-order it before it goes to £150

I don't think it's fair to say that, it is an OS in its own right, there have been underlying kernel changes and other things that are much more major than a service pack.

I understand what you mean though in a way, I was so excited about Vista and then was really disappointed with it, I've found Windows 7 to be everything I wished Vista was.

Caboose

Oct 11 2009, 01:33 PM

Whatever... you don't actually mind me calling you Cat do you? Just this springs to mind:

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Caboose @ Oct 11 2009, 11:33 AM)

Whatever... you don't actually mind me calling you Cat do you? Just this springs to mind:

http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/09/00/23/54/cat0210.jpg

That's a very scary image. I don't think I can sleep after seeing that...

Cattius

Oct 11 2009, 01:40 PM

QUOTE (Caboose @ Oct 11 2009, 07:33 PM)

Whatever... you don't actually mind me calling you Cat do you? Just this springs to mind:

Rofl no, I don't mind, I get called a lot worse

Timmeh

Oct 11 2009, 06:18 PM

I WANT ME SOME WINDOWS 7.

Jr Josh

Oct 11 2009, 06:22 PM

Windows 7.
I'm already using Windows 7!
No.
No.
No.

Veni vidi vici

Oct 11 2009, 06:48 PM

Well, have you ever used Windows 7? Why don't you try it, and see why it is so great?
~Vincent

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Timmeh @ Oct 11 2009, 04:18 PM)

I WANT ME SOME WINDOWS 7.

I feel you man I feel you. I want Windows 7 really badly right now too.

QUOTE (Jr Josh @ Oct 11 2009, 04:22 PM)

Windows 7.
I'm already using Windows 7!
No.
No.
No.

Nice signature!

Thanks for voting.

QUOTE (Veni vidi vici @ Oct 11 2009, 04:48 PM)

Well, have you ever used Windows 7? Why don't you try it, and see why it is so great?
~Vincent

Who are you directing that question to?

____________________________________________

I have a couple questions for everyone.

1. What is your worst experience while using a Windows experience?
2. What problem(s) occurs most when using your Windows computer?

Here are my answers.

1: My worst experience would probably be the day when I tried to turn on my computer and I received an error saying Windows could not start properly. It said it could be a hardware error or a software error. Then, it took twenty minutes to recover some files and do a system restore. When the computer finally started, my Norton Antivirus spent like fifteen minutes trying to update and it just sucked! This was on my Windows Vista. I hope this never happens with Windows 7.
2. The problem that occur most with my Windows computer would probably be my unresponsive Firefox. I don't know what causes it, but just out of the blue, my Firefox will decide to be a punk ass all day and continue to not work. The next day it will be working incredible.

I really look forward to getting answer from everyone!

I'm going to start planning out some updates to the main post. Maybe a new section or some kind of event I don't know.

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 10:19 PM

1. None.
2. I get distracted from my homework.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 10:22 PM

I agree with your #2. Whenever I have to write a Word document, I get distracted too.

iSummon

Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 10:31 PM

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 10:51 PM

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

Windows 8 is true. It's been in the works since before Windows 7 was done.

Go ahead! Remember our deal?

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:31 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

I have a feeling Windows 8 will be the most advanced OS ever. They stated it will have everything that they missed in Windows 7 in it. When do you think they will start releasing more info on Windows 8?

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 10:53 PM

I bet more info will start coming out in 2010, but not until 2011/2012 will we get a glimpse of it.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 10:55 PM

2011 we will probably start getting our BETA's correct? It's scheduled for release sometime in 2012.

iSummon

Oct 11 2009, 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 08:51 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

Windows 8 is true. It's been in the works since before Windows 7 was done.

Go ahead! Remember our deal?

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QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:31 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

I have a feeling Windows 8 will be the most advanced OS ever. They stated it will have everything that they missed in Windows 7 in it. When do you think they will start releasing more info on Windows 8?

It just feels trashy, they do Win7 but they are working on Win8 RIGHT after making Win7. I thought Win7 was suppose to fix everything in Vista, but now their are more things wrong in Win7? Well for now my computer can't handle Vista so, until I get a new one I'll just admire, and watch for updates.

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 10:58 PM

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:56 PM)

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 08:51 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

Windows 8 is true. It's been in the works since before Windows 7 was done.

Go ahead! Remember our deal?

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Now your Avvy(s) are combined!

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:31 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

I have a feeling Windows 8 will be the most advanced OS ever. They stated it will have everything that they missed in Windows 7 in it. When do you think they will start releasing more info on Windows 8?

It just feels trashy, they do Win7 but they are working on Win8 RIGHT after making Win7. I thought Win7 was suppose to fix everything in Vista, but now their are more things wrong in Win7? Well for now my computer can't handle Vista so, until I get a new one I'll just admire, and watch for updates.

They said they're making a 128bit version for 8. You think they could have incorporated that into 7? Barely anything supports 64bit as it is.

Flames

Oct 11 2009, 11:02 PM

Well I think the things they want to Windows 8 will be HUGE! They mentioned and improved way to access files. It's possible that if they wanted to add those big features to Windows 7, it would greatly delay the planned release for Windows 7.

lol your avatar doesn't really match. The Slayer skill icon on top of a Windows Security icon? Come on man....

When do you guys think we can expect Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 and Service Pack 3 for Windows Vista?
EDIT: I don't really understand very well the difference between 64-bit and 32-bit. If a 128-bit Windows was released, what would the difference be? Just better performance for games?

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 11:02 PM)

Well I think the things they want to Windows 8 will be HUGE! They mentioned and improved way to access files. It's possible that if they wanted to add those big features to Windows 7, it would greatly delay the planned release for Windows 7.

lol your avatar doesn't really match. The Slayer skill icon on top of a Windows Security icon? Come on man....

When do you guys think we can expect Service Pack 1 for Windows 7 and Service Pack 3 for Windows Vista?
EDIT: I don't really understand very well the difference between 64-bit and 32-bit. If a 128-bit Windows was released, what would the difference be? Just better performance for games?

It's just a different architecture between the hardware and the software. Modern hardware is 64bit and there's 64bit OSes, but software that takes advantage of it is pretty rare.

I think they may be going a little overboard with 128bit, but I guess it pushes the standard.

iSummon

Oct 11 2009, 11:07 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:58 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:56 PM)

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 08:51 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

Windows 8 is true. It's been in the works since before Windows 7 was done.

Go ahead! Remember our deal?

------------
Now your Avvy(s) are combined!

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:31 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

I have a feeling Windows 8 will be the most advanced OS ever. They stated it will have everything that they missed in Windows 7 in it. When do you think they will start releasing more info on Windows 8?

It just feels trashy, they do Win7 but they are working on Win8 RIGHT after making Win7. I thought Win7 was suppose to fix everything in Vista, but now their are more things wrong in Win7? Well for now my computer can't handle Vista so, until I get a new one I'll just admire, and watch for updates.

They said they're making a 128bit version for 8. You think they could have incorporated that into 7? Barely anything supports 64bit as it is.

309485009821345068724781056 terabytes of RAM? Who needs that much? Didn't think so.

@Flames:
1.) They already made accessing files a snap, correct me if I'm wrong?
2.) I know right?
3.) yes, for the people who own all their games for computers. (aging, correct me.)

redmonke

Oct 11 2009, 11:09 PM

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 11:07 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:58 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:56 PM)

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 11 2009, 08:51 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 08:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

Windows 8 is true. It's been in the works since before Windows 7 was done.

Go ahead! Remember our deal?

------------
Now your Avvy(s) are combined!

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 08:31 PM)

QUOTE (iSummon @ Oct 11 2009, 10:29 PM)

Windows 8 isn't true. If they wanted to make something in a new Windows they would put in Win7. I mean their were rumors of 8 in 7 wasn't out.

I'm stealing your Avvy flames.

They've been working on 8 for I think about a year or more now.

I have a feeling Windows 8 will be the most advanced OS ever. They stated it will have everything that they missed in Windows 7 in it. When do you think they will start releasing more info on Windows 8?

It just feels trashy, they do Win7 but they are working on Win8 RIGHT after making Win7. I thought Win7 was suppose to fix everything in Vista, but now their are more things wrong in Win7? Well for now my computer can't handle Vista so, until I get a new one I'll just admire, and watch for updates.

They said they're making a 128bit version for 8. You think they could have incorporated that into 7? Barely anything supports 64bit as it is.

309485009821345068724781056 terabytes of RAM? Who needs that much? Didn't think so.

@Flames:
1.) They already made accessing files a snap, correct me if I'm wrong?
2.) I know right?
3.) yes, for the people who own all their games for computers. (aging, correct me.)

There's more to 64/128bit than just RAM.

iSummon

Oct 11 2009, 11:13 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 11 2009, 09:09 PM)

There's more to 64/128bit than just RAM.

I never said their was.

(Going to sleep, will debate after school.)

MrBiggles5

Oct 12 2009, 10:31 AM

Any students in college/university in the UK can take take advantage of this offer to get windows 7 home premium/professional for just £30!

http://www.microsoft.com/uk/education/studentoffer/

Also no windows 2000 on the list? I would have voted that but I guess my vote goes to 7.

Flames

Oct 12 2009, 10:43 AM

QUOTE (MrBiggles5 @ Oct 12 2009, 08:31 AM)

Any students in college/university in the UK can take take advantage of this offer to get windows 7 home premium/professional for just £30!

http://www.microsoft.com/uk/education/studentoffer/

Also no windows 2000 on the list? I would have voted that but I guess my vote goes to 7.

Hmmm I wonder how I forgot that...

No sense in adding it now though. Theirs already too many votes.

Cattius

Oct 12 2009, 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Flames @ Oct 12 2009, 04:15 AM)

-___________________________________________

I have a couple questions for everyone.

1. What is your worst experience while using a Windows experience?
2. What problem(s) occurs most when using your Windows computer?

Here are my answers.

1: My worst experience would probably be the day when I tried to turn on my computer and I received an error saying Windows could not start properly. It said it could be a hardware error or a software error. Then, it took twenty minutes to recover some files and do a system restore. When the computer finally started, my Norton Antivirus spent like fifteen minutes trying to update and it just sucked! This was on my Windows Vista. I hope this never happens with Windows 7.
2. The problem that occur most with my Windows computer would probably be my unresponsive Firefox. I don't know what causes it, but just out of the blue, my Firefox will decide to be a punk ass all day and continue to not work. The next day it will be working incredible.

I really look forward to getting answer from everyone!

I'm going to start planning out some updates to the main post. Maybe a new section or some kind of event I don't know.

1) Probably when I stupidly corrupted the startup sequence (don't ask, I meddle with things way too much

), had no recovery disc and thought I was going to lose three massive essays that I'd never backed up (so basically it was all my own fault). Luckily I managed to transfer them to an external hard drive through a command prompt in the recovery partition (the actual recovery was destructive so I couldn't use it). Basically I've had no problems with the exception of cases where I poked around way too much

2) I've had very few problems since I installed 7 really. If I had to say some I'd probably just say overheating (again my fault for dropping the laptop down the stairs) and occasional driver niggles because I'm using pre-release versions.

redmonke

Oct 12 2009, 11:57 AM

One thing which I find weird is that Firefox keeps crashing on my Windows 7. As in, 30 times a day.

Cattius

Oct 12 2009, 12:13 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 12 2009, 05:57 PM)

One thing which I find weird is that Firefox keeps crashing on my Windows 7. As in, 30 times a day.

That's weird...I had a few problems with FF which was why I went back to Chrome, but not THAT many. Did you do a clean or upgrade install (you've probably said at some point but I can't remember)? If it was an upgrade try reinstalling FF, upgrades can sometimes really mess up certain programs.

redmonke

Oct 12 2009, 12:21 PM

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 12 2009, 12:13 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 12 2009, 05:57 PM)

One thing which I find weird is that Firefox keeps crashing on my Windows 7. As in, 30 times a day.

That's weird...I had a few problems with FF which was why I went back to Chrome, but not THAT many. Did you do a clean or upgrade install (you've probably said at some point but I can't remember)? If it was an upgrade try reinstalling FF, upgrades can sometimes really mess up certain programs.

Yea it was an upgrade. My brother hasn't had any problems and I did a clean install for him (went from Windows 7 RC > Vista > Windows 7 Ultimate).

I may do that later. Is it going to delete my addons if I uninstall?

Cattius

Oct 12 2009, 12:24 PM

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 12 2009, 06:21 PM)

QUOTE (Cattius @ Oct 12 2009, 12:13 PM)

QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 12 2009, 05:57 PM)

One thing which I find weird is that Firefox keeps crashing on my Windows 7. As in, 30 times a day.

That's weird...I had a few problems with FF which was why I went back to Chrome, but not THAT many. Did you do a clean or upgrade install (you've probably said at some point but I can't remember)? If it was an upgrade try reinstalling FF, upgrades can sometimes really mess up certain programs.

Yea it was an upgrade. My brother hasn't had any problems and I did a clean install for him (went from Windows 7 RC > Vista > Windows 7 Ultimate).

I may do that later. Is it going to delete my addons if I uninstall?

Yes, but I believe this might help

Caboose

Oct 12 2009, 01:08 PM

I see everybody stopped using Opera 10 then... it's a good browser but the incompatibility is just irritating.

King Aragorn

Oct 12 2009, 01:24 PM

I also have a Windows 7 RC on my virtual computer.
I wonder how it will be different in the released one... maybe more designs.
But i wonder if i could use the Windows XP's VSs, they look good and have alot of nice ones, like my current copycat of OS X theme.
I hope so, because that didnt work in Vista i heard.
And i think they have stronger guard on the uxtheme.dll now...

Cattius

Oct 12 2009, 01:29 PM

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Oct 12 2009, 07:24 PM)

I also have a Windows 7 RC on my virtual computer.
I wonder how it will be different in the released one... maybe more designs.
But i wonder if i could use the Windows XP's VSs, they look good and have alot of nice ones, like my current copycat of OS X theme.
I hope so, because that didnt work in Vista i heard.
And i think they have stronger guard on the uxtheme.dll now...

It's still possible to modify uxtheme.dll to allow the installation of custom themes, but XP visual styles definitely won't work because 7 uses a different window manager.

redmonke

Oct 12 2009, 01:45 PM

QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Oct 12 2009, 01:24 PM)

I also have a Windows 7 RC on my virtual computer.
I wonder how it will be different in the released one... maybe more designs.
But i wonder if i could use the Windows XP's VSs, they look good and have alot of nice ones, like my current copycat of OS X theme.
I hope so, because that didnt work in Vista i heard.
And i think they have stronger guard on the uxtheme.dll now...

When Vistaglazz updates I'm pretty sure it will be compatible with Windows 7.

I find that the final release is a bit faster than the RC.

Caboose

Oct 12 2009, 02:21 PM

Well since this does seem to have turned into a general discussion topic:

What the hell happened to the Tech Support rank?