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Okay, I'm sorry, I just REALLY had to post this...
Anti-Microsoft Radicalism?
They do make a point, though, it is quite extreme, and some of it isn't true. Yes, the have monopolized, but if they make their software free, they make no money.
Discuss.
~Vincent
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1. Poisoning education: Today, most children whose education involves computers are being taught to use one company's product: Microsoft's. Microsoft spends large sums on lobbyists and marketing to corrupt educational departments. An education using the power of computers should be a means to freedom and empowerment, not an avenue for one corporation to instill its monopoly.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
2. Invading privacy: Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning.
All it does is check if you're software is genuine or not. If it's not it just tells you to get the real version. I've even disabled the message I get for my Office Genuine thing.
3. Monopoly behavior: Nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed -- but not by choice. Microsoft dictates requirements to hardware vendors, who will not offer PCs without Windows installed on them, despite many people asking for them. Even computers available with other operating systems like GNU/Linux pre-installed often had Windows on them first.
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
4. Lock-in: Microsoft regularly attempts to force updates on its users, by removing support for older versions of Windows and Office, and by inflating hardware requirements. For many people, this means having to throw away working computers just because they don't meet the unnecessary requirements for the new Windows versions.
Nobody forces you to upgrade your computer. Apple does the same thing.
5. Abusing standards: Microsoft has attempted to block free standardization of document formats, because standards like OpenDocument Format would threaten the control they have now over users via proprietary Word formats. They have engaged in underhanded behavior, including bribing officials, in an attempt to stop such efforts.
It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
6. Enforcing Digital Restrictions Management (DRM): With Windows Media Player, Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record.
iTunes has DRM, too.
7. Threatening user security: Windows has a long history of security vulnerabilities, enabling the spread of viruses and allowing remote users to take over people's computers for use in spam-sending botnets. Because the software is secret, all users are dependent on Microsoft to fix these problems -- but Microsoft has its own security interests at heart, not those of its users.
I lol'd.
What a load of bullshizzle.
And the only reason Vista did bad at the beginning was because manufacturers didn't want to write proper drivers. In fact, Nvidia caused about 30-40% of problems with Vista because they weren't writing proper drivers for their cards. When you think about how many computer have a Nvidia card in them you'll see why it why it was such a large problem.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
2. Invading privacy: Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning.
All it does is check if you're software is genuine or not. If it's not it just tells you to get the real version. I've even disabled the message I get for my Office Genuine thing.
3. Monopoly behavior: Nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed -- but not by choice. Microsoft dictates requirements to hardware vendors, who will not offer PCs without Windows installed on them, despite many people asking for them. Even computers available with other operating systems like GNU/Linux pre-installed often had Windows on them first.
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
4. Lock-in: Microsoft regularly attempts to force updates on its users, by removing support for older versions of Windows and Office, and by inflating hardware requirements. For many people, this means having to throw away working computers just because they don't meet the unnecessary requirements for the new Windows versions.
Nobody forces you to upgrade your computer. Apple does the same thing.
5. Abusing standards: Microsoft has attempted to block free standardization of document formats, because standards like OpenDocument Format would threaten the control they have now over users via proprietary Word formats. They have engaged in underhanded behavior, including bribing officials, in an attempt to stop such efforts.
It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
6. Enforcing Digital Restrictions Management (DRM): With Windows Media Player, Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record.
iTunes has DRM, too.
7. Threatening user security: Windows has a long history of security vulnerabilities, enabling the spread of viruses and allowing remote users to take over people's computers for use in spam-sending botnets. Because the software is secret, all users are dependent on Microsoft to fix these problems -- but Microsoft has its own security interests at heart, not those of its users.
I lol'd.
What a load of bullshizzle.
And the only reason Vista did bad at the beginning was because manufacturers didn't want to write proper drivers. In fact, Nvidia caused about 30-40% of problems with Vista because they weren't writing proper drivers for their cards. When you think about how many computer have a Nvidia card in them you'll see why it why it was such a large problem.
That is the reason Vista was a resource hog. It still is TBH, its just the drivers they did make for Vista are shizzle.
They don't understand that people always choose to buy a Windows PC, because just about everyone knows how to use them. Most people don't get computers pre-installed with Ubuntu because it is only on select Dell Minis. And, TBH, people are usually find with Windows, and don't want to go through the trouble to install Linux, even though it only takes a couple of hours.
~Vincent
They don't understand that people always choose to buy a Windows PC, because just about everyone knows how to use them. Most people don't get computers pre-installed with Ubuntu because it is only on select Dell Minis. And, TBH, people are usually find with Windows, and don't want to go through the trouble to install Linux, even though it only takes a couple of hours.
~Vincent
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It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
OpenOffice 3 is wondrous.QUOTE
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
What on Earth does it have to do with monopoly? If I wish to have my computer without Windows pre-installed, there is the chance to not agree to the usage of Windows and get a refund...IN THEORY. Why should I be forced to pay for something I don't want? Besides that, "iTunes does it too" is not an excuse, or we'd be all doing the Bernie Madoff dance. Hey, he did it, I can do it too!
but iTunes doesn't do it.
QUOTE (Arianna @ Oct 12 2009, 09:02 AM) 
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It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
OpenOffice 3 is wondrous.QUOTE
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
What on Earth does it have to do with monopoly? If I wish to have my computer without Windows pre-installed, there is the chance to not agree to the usage of Windows and get a refund...IN THEORY. Why should I be forced to pay for something I don't want? Besides that, "iTunes does it too" is not an excuse, or we'd be all doing the Bernie Madoff dance. Hey, he did it, I can do it too!
Dani, there is no way in heck that I would ever go through all of that to get Windows off of my computer. I'm fine with Vista right now. It gets done what I need to get done, and when W7 comes in a few weeks, it is off my computer. I will still have Ubuntu, but for things like games, I will use Windows 7.
And, iTunes actually doesn't monopolize, they just don't make ANYTHING compatible with Linux. Mostly the same with Microsoft, because Apple and Microsoft don't make any money off of it. And, it is THEIR product. They made it, got it patented, and they have the right to charge for it. It isn't like they are going to stop selling it. In fact, they have to sell it to stay alive.
The argue is just a little extreme.
~Vincent
EDIT: Open Office 3.1 completely PWNS the assterisk off of MS Office. It can support MS Word files, so I can send stuff home, and that is plenty enough for me.
QUOTE (Veni vidi vici @ Oct 12 2009, 09:37 AM)
QUOTE (Arianna @ Oct 12 2009, 09:02 AM)
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It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
OpenOffice 3 is wondrous.QUOTE
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
What on Earth does it have to do with monopoly? If I wish to have my computer without Windows pre-installed, there is the chance to not agree to the usage of Windows and get a refund...IN THEORY. Why should I be forced to pay for something I don't want? Besides that, "iTunes does it too" is not an excuse, or we'd be all doing the Bernie Madoff dance. Hey, he did it, I can do it too!
Dani, there is no way in heck that I would ever go through all of that to get Windows off of my computer. I'm fine with Vista right now. It gets done what I need to get done, and when W7 comes in a few weeks, it is off my computer. I will still have Ubuntu, but for things like games, I will use Windows 7.
And, iTunes actually doesn't monopolize, they just don't make ANYTHING compatible with Linux. Mostly the same with Microsoft, because Apple and Microsoft don't make any money off of it. And, it is THEIR product. They made it, got it patented, and they have the right to charge for it. It isn't like they are going to stop selling it. In fact, they have to sell it to stay alive.
The argue is just a little extreme.
~Vincent
EDIT: Open Office 3.1 completely PWNS the assterisk off of MS Office. It can support MS Word files, so I can send stuff home, and that is plenty enough for me.
If there is no way that you could go through the process of returning you Windows license, then don't compliain about it.
iTunes is sold? Weird, I got it for free.
Open Office is alright, but there is no way that it is better than Ms Office, other thanth fact that it is free and that Office normally costs a few hundred dollars.
Nah, Open Office is better. It's just as easy to use but isn't as bloated and actually does what it sais on the box... Word isn't a word processor any more, it's a publication editor.
QUOTE (redmonke @ Oct 12 2009, 12:57 PM)
1. Poisoning education: Today, most children whose education involves computers are being taught to use one company's product: Microsoft's. Microsoft spends large sums on lobbyists and marketing to corrupt educational departments. An education using the power of computers should be a means to freedom and empowerment, not an avenue for one corporation to instill its monopoly.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
2. Invading privacy: Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning.
All it does is check if you're software is genuine or not. If it's not it just tells you to get the real version. I've even disabled the message I get for my Office Genuine thing.
3. Monopoly behavior: Nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed -- but not by choice. Microsoft dictates requirements to hardware vendors, who will not offer PCs without Windows installed on them, despite many people asking for them. Even computers available with other operating systems like GNU/Linux pre-installed often had Windows on them first.
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
4. Lock-in: Microsoft regularly attempts to force updates on its users, by removing support for older versions of Windows and Office, and by inflating hardware requirements. For many people, this means having to throw away working computers just because they don't meet the unnecessary requirements for the new Windows versions.
Nobody forces you to upgrade your computer. Apple does the same thing.
5. Abusing standards: Microsoft has attempted to block free standardization of document formats, because standards like OpenDocument Format would threaten the control they have now over users via proprietary Word formats. They have engaged in underhanded behavior, including bribing officials, in an attempt to stop such efforts.
It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
6. Enforcing Digital Restrictions Management (DRM): With Windows Media Player, Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record.
iTunes has DRM, too.
7. Threatening user security: Windows has a long history of security vulnerabilities, enabling the spread of viruses and allowing remote users to take over people's computers for use in spam-sending botnets. Because the software is secret, all users are dependent on Microsoft to fix these problems -- but Microsoft has its own security interests at heart, not those of its users.
I lol'd.
What a load of bullshizzle.
And the only reason Vista did bad at the beginning was because manufacturers didn't want to write proper drivers. In fact, Nvidia caused about 30-40% of problems with Vista because they weren't writing proper drivers for their cards. When you think about how many computer have a Nvidia card in them you'll see why it why it was such a large problem.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
2. Invading privacy: Microsoft uses software with backward names like Windows Genuine Advantage to inspect the contents of users' hard drives. The licensing agreement users are required to accept before using Windows warns that Microsoft claims the right to do this without warning.
All it does is check if you're software is genuine or not. If it's not it just tells you to get the real version. I've even disabled the message I get for my Office Genuine thing.
3. Monopoly behavior: Nearly every computer purchased has Windows pre-installed -- but not by choice. Microsoft dictates requirements to hardware vendors, who will not offer PCs without Windows installed on them, despite many people asking for them. Even computers available with other operating systems like GNU/Linux pre-installed often had Windows on them first.
Maybe because everyone knows how to use Windows and it doesn't have a ton of problems.
4. Lock-in: Microsoft regularly attempts to force updates on its users, by removing support for older versions of Windows and Office, and by inflating hardware requirements. For many people, this means having to throw away working computers just because they don't meet the unnecessary requirements for the new Windows versions.
Nobody forces you to upgrade your computer. Apple does the same thing.
5. Abusing standards: Microsoft has attempted to block free standardization of document formats, because standards like OpenDocument Format would threaten the control they have now over users via proprietary Word formats. They have engaged in underhanded behavior, including bribing officials, in an attempt to stop such efforts.
It's their program, they can use whatever ones they want. When somebody else makes a suite as good as office let me know.
6. Enforcing Digital Restrictions Management (DRM): With Windows Media Player, Microsoft works in collusion with the big media companies to build restrictions on copying and playing media into their operating system. For example, at the request of NBC, Microsoft was able to prevent Windows users from recording television shows that they have the legal right to record.
iTunes has DRM, too.
7. Threatening user security: Windows has a long history of security vulnerabilities, enabling the spread of viruses and allowing remote users to take over people's computers for use in spam-sending botnets. Because the software is secret, all users are dependent on Microsoft to fix these problems -- but Microsoft has its own security interests at heart, not those of its users.
I lol'd.
What a load of bullshizzle.
And the only reason Vista did bad at the beginning was because manufacturers didn't want to write proper drivers. In fact, Nvidia caused about 30-40% of problems with Vista because they weren't writing proper drivers for their cards. When you think about how many computer have a Nvidia card in them you'll see why it why it was such a large problem.
Duuuddde. You should send that to the makers of the website. They would shiver at their stupidity, but they probably wouldn't care. They appear to be totally bent on putting a huge case up against Microsoft.
1. Poisoning education: Today, most children whose education involves computers are being taught to use one company's product: Microsoft's. Microsoft spends large sums on lobbyists and marketing to corrupt educational departments. An education using the power of computers should be a means to freedom and empowerment, not an avenue for one corporation to instill its monopoly.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
In the UK Tony Blair Signed an Agreement with Microsoft that all schools would use Windows Computers for simple IT use.
School's do it by choice. My school has both Macs and PCs as well as many other schools in my area...
In the UK Tony Blair Signed an Agreement with Microsoft that all schools would use Windows Computers for simple IT use.
I think Blair was worse for this country than Gordon is. Blair sent us to war and started the ball rolling, then timed it perfectly so that all of the stuff that really was his fault would look like Gordon's. He's only more popular because he got out there and was good at acting friendly, and he didn't look like a gargoyle. To be honest, these aren't important qualities in a leader, they're important qualities in a person.
QUOTE (Caboose @ Oct 14 2009, 06:59 PM)
I think Blair was worse for this country than Gordon is. Blair sent us to war and started the ball rolling, then timed it perfectly so that all of the stuff that really was his fault would look like Gordon's. He's only more popular because he got out there and was good at acting friendly, and he didn't look like a gargoyle. To be honest, these aren't important qualities in a leader, they're important qualities in a person.
This isn't the politics topic Caboose
. I agree with you saying about Blair sending us to war though, but other than that he was a good PM
That also isn't Microsoft's fault, though. It's the government's since they made the law. 
Remember children: too much good business is illegal! Microsoft made some fantastic moves in their infancy. They took over the computer market by standardizing nearly everything and making it flexible. Their software started slow and almost fell apart, if not for business genius and good leadership. Since then, Microsoft hasn't REALLY acted like a monopoly. License prices actually fell behind inflation. But other than that, most businesses run all client PC's with Windows, all internal servers with Windows Server, and all external servers (data storage & distribution, content storage & distribution, &c) with Unix. Most of the rest of the companies long ago gave up in the face of Microsoft. They simply gave up. Outside of telecoms and the military, the OS and hardware divisions of most of their former competitors simply doesn't exist.
I'd just like to add, iTunes wouldn't import my .avi while WMP did.
WMP is better.
WMP is better.
QUOTE (Definition @ Oct 12 2009, 03:27 PM)
but iTunes doesn't do it.
Tell me, where does the songs from itunes go?
Can you freely modify them and do whatever you want with them?
DRM limits the use of files, like read-only but still deletable, or bound to 1 software that is the only to unlock the file.
They dont understand the problems about making an OS.
You need security.
They cant have an OS freely to share around with no Genuine control, because then Microsoft would never get further with their free and nice apps and utilities like Silverlight, Internet Explorer, the NT kernel, their server editions, WM, Visual Studio, Xbox, Zune, XNA, games, and more.
Thats the reason for having license keys and piracy protection built-in.
Yup, apple is very similar, yet they sell the products pretty overpriced because of less occupation of market, but still offer free apps. (But its locked to Apple computers)
The manufacturers choose the OS to use on computers they make, they arent bound to Windows.
Acer and other manufacturers needed a light system for netbooks, so they chose Linux. Linux is Open source, so that many can work on it without being paid, just for own joy, or something else. But else they choose Windows for its wide use and compatibility. Yourself you arent bound to a system, you can switch to whatever you want. Still there is many that WANTS to use Windows. Me, i want it for games and development.
The people on that site doesnt understand the ecosystem of companies like Microsoft, its all depending on other parts.
We wouldnt have todays Xbox if no one bought from Microsoft in 1990's and we wouldnt have Microsoft today if no one bought Windows 3.1 and other older systems.
The guys on that site start commenting a system that is even not released..
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Oct 16 2009, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE (Definition @ Oct 12 2009, 03:27 PM)
but iTunes doesn't do it.
Tell me, where does the songs from itunes go?
Can you freely modify them and do whatever you want with them?
DRM limits the use of files, like read-only but still deletable, or bound to 1 software that is the only to unlock the file.
Letsee... They go in an iTunes music folder, where you can extract it and listen to it with any MP3-compatible software.
They dont understand the problems about making an OS.
You need security.
Funny to put They (MS) and security in the same paragraph.
They cant have an OS freely to share around with no Genuine control, because then Microsoft would never get further with their free and nice apps and utilities like Silverlight, Internet Explorer, the NT kernel, their server editions, WM, Visual Studio, Xbox, Zune, XNA, games, and more.
Thats the reason for having license keys and piracy protection built-in.
Yup, apple is very similar, yet they sell the products pretty overpriced because of less occupation of market, but still offer free apps. (But its locked to Apple computers)
10.6 has no registration, no gay codes, and super-fast installation.
The manufacturers choose the OS to use on computers they make, they arent bound to Windows.
Acer and other manufacturers needed a light system for netbooks, so they chose Linux. Linux is Open source, so that many can work on it without being paid, just for own joy, or something else. But else they choose Windows for its wide use and compatibility. Yourself you arent bound to a system, you can switch to whatever you want. Still there is many that WANTS to use Windows. Me, i want it for games and development.
The people on that site doesnt understand the ecosystem of companies like Microsoft, its all depending on other parts.
We wouldnt have todays Xbox if no one bought from Microsoft in 1990's and we wouldnt have Microsoft today if no one bought Windows 3.1 and other older systems.
The guys on that site start commenting a system that is even not released..
QUOTE (DaNoobPro1337 @ Oct 16 2009, 03:34 PM)
QUOTE (King Aragorn @ Oct 16 2009, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE (Definition @ Oct 12 2009, 03:27 PM)
but iTunes doesn't do it.
Tell me, where does the songs from itunes go?
Can you freely modify them and do whatever you want with them?
DRM limits the use of files, like read-only but still deletable, or bound to 1 software that is the only to unlock the file.
Letsee... They go in an iTunes music folder, where you can extract it and listen to it with any MP3-compatible software.
They dont understand the problems about making an OS.
You need security.
Funny to put They (MS) and security in the same paragraph.
Whats so funny? The people on that site have investigated too little, and the companies making OSs needs to care about security.
They cant have an OS freely to share around with no Genuine control, because then Microsoft would never get further with their free and nice apps and utilities like Silverlight, Internet Explorer, the NT kernel, their server editions, WM, Visual Studio, Xbox, Zune, XNA, games, and more.
Thats the reason for having license keys and piracy protection built-in.
Yup, apple is very similar, yet they sell the products pretty overpriced because of less occupation of market, but still offer free apps. (But its locked to Apple computers)
10.6 has no registration, no gay codes, and super-fast installation.
There you see, its easier for people to get past it when there is no code to enter, and that the system is mostly exposed even before installation. You would just insert a Linux disc, run it on the option LiveCD, copy the files from system and BAM!In Windows, you NEED the key to at all install the system and makes it impossible to snap the system out of a system that hasnt been installed. On a computer that is directly bought, there is only the installer files for the system and the manufacturers custom apps, where there is no way to get past the original install without modifying the boot files.
The manufacturers choose the OS to use on computers they make, they arent bound to Windows.
Acer and other manufacturers needed a light system for netbooks, so they chose Linux. Linux is Open source, so that many can work on it without being paid, just for own joy, or something else. But else they choose Windows for its wide use and compatibility. Yourself you arent bound to a system, you can switch to whatever you want. Still there is many that WANTS to use Windows. Me, i want it for games and development.
The people on that site doesnt understand the ecosystem of companies like Microsoft, its all depending on other parts.
We wouldnt have todays Xbox if no one bought from Microsoft in 1990's and we wouldnt have Microsoft today if no one bought Windows 3.1 and other older systems.
The guys on that site start commenting a system that is even not released..
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