Mohorak
Oct 11 2009, 09:35 PM
I found
this on Digg recently and it struck me as obvious. If you've ever watched FOX news channels, the Republican tendencies are blatant. I'd like to see what people think about this. I try not to get too deep into political debates, but this to me just strikes me as a journalistic integrity thing. After all, the main point of journalism is to provide news and other information in a neutral, non-biased way.
After you give the solid facts, you can invite open-minded debate, but it's just sad to see a 'free' nation's media biased when people are supposedly fighting for journalistic integrity in supposedly 'worse-off' countries.
Your thoughts.
LightSlei
Oct 11 2009, 09:38 PM
Yes.
That's common knowledge

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FOX does not = News.
CNN has been going the way FOX has lately except that they're licking the Democrats to death like little puppies.

.
I honestly hate the American News Stations now.
Definition
Oct 11 2009, 10:23 PM
24 hour news isn't 24 hour news, it's political opinion and commentary.
Of course it's biased.
Po22
Oct 11 2009, 10:25 PM
I can't tell if this topic is serious or not. I thought it was established in the 90's that FOX news is a cesspool of lies.
Mohorak
Oct 11 2009, 10:26 PM
No, no, no, not if it's BIASED or not, whether it's directly part of the Republican Party.
D-Jizzy
Oct 11 2009, 10:51 PM
No, FOX is not part of the Republican Party, though they'd like to be.
blad
Oct 11 2009, 11:34 PM
None of the stations have any news anyways, it's sensationalist crap. Fox kisses the republicans' asses, MSNBC kisses the democrats' asses, CNN just talks about whatever young blond girl is missing this week. NPR is the way to go
Vera
Oct 11 2009, 11:37 PM
cnn bashing fox news
pretty hilarious imo
but then again id still rather watch cnn than fox
Lol
Oct 11 2009, 11:39 PM
FOX, in a word, sucks.
The extreme republican bias is almost laughable.
D-Jizzy
Oct 11 2009, 11:43 PM
@blad: bahahahahaha. They kiss Democrat asses too.
It's really impossible to find anyone who doesn't kiss someone's ass nowadays actually. As far as politics I find Al-Jazeera trustworthy unless Muslims get involved.
Maggotswr
Oct 12 2009, 12:37 AM
QUOTE (blad @ Oct 11 2009, 09:34 PM)

MSNBC kisses the democrats' asses

not really. they are extremely liberal sure but they are also extremely critical of the democratic parties more moderate views. if they had to pick a party they would go democrat though
QUOTE (blad @ Oct 11 2009, 09:34 PM)

NPR is the way to go
NPR is pretty good.....radio is boring though
Nachomamma8
Oct 12 2009, 12:39 AM
I don't really have an opinion because I could honestly care less... Can't say I watch a whole lot of Fox anyways.
Adam?
Oct 12 2009, 12:42 AM
No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!
D-Jizzy
Oct 12 2009, 12:43 AM
QUOTE (Adam? @ Oct 12 2009, 01:42 AM)

No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!

They probably do but they really suck at loving America intelligently
Choccy
Oct 12 2009, 07:35 AM
The only american stations I get are Bloomberg and CNN, both seem like 24/7 market analysis. I watch BBC and euronews which seem to be more impartial. However saying that..the people they interview makes them seem bias.
Twist of Fate
Oct 12 2009, 07:40 AM
Fox are pretty much McCain/Joe Wilson wannabes.
I really wish I saw their report on Joe's outburst during the Obama speech.
Mr Grieves
Oct 12 2009, 08:46 AM
I genuinely don't know of any news channels that are unbiased and neutral.
Mohorak
Oct 12 2009, 12:16 PM
QUOTE (Maggotswr @ Oct 12 2009, 01:37 AM)

QUOTE (blad @ Oct 11 2009, 09:34 PM)

MSNBC kisses the democrats' asses
QUOTE (blad @ Oct 11 2009, 09:34 PM)

NPR is the way to go
NPR is pretty good.....radio is boring though

NPR is great, especially the more cerebral humor shows like Wait.. Wait... Don't Tell Me. It makes radio less boring.
chaos9999
Oct 12 2009, 12:29 PM
Why doesn't Fox just come out of the closet and say "We're a conservative propaganda network". Their viewers won't care. You'd have to be an idiot to not think the likes of Hannity, Beck, and and Malkin aren't far right spinmasters. Bill O'Reilly, the guy who attacks liberals every
holiday, snicker snicker, is the voice of reason over there. Well, maybe they shouldn't say propaganda, but why do they pretend to be fair and balanced? Sean Hannity has sworn to get rid of all of Obama's constitutionally appointed advisers, deputy assistants directors of agencies, and others. You know, the so called
"czars". Can you honestly trust what he says about any executive appointment? Oh, and then there's Glenn Beck, Roger Ailes new monkey boy. He has exposed himself over and over again as a guy with a deep seeded hatred for liberals. I'm not saying he doesn't like liberals. I'm saying he has a deep seeded hatred for them. His latest book, the Great Strawman Massa.... I mean, uh, Arguing with Idiots, is basically a list of right wing talking points, nothing new.
D-Jizzy
Oct 12 2009, 03:16 PM
Bro, I don't like the czars either. That's probably the only sane thing that Hannity discusses, getting rid of the czars. I don't care if they're not actually czars. It doesn't make them any more constitutional.
chaos9999
Oct 12 2009, 03:28 PM
QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Oct 12 2009, 04:16 PM)

Bro, I don't like the czars either. That's probably the only sane thing that Hannity discusses, getting rid of the czars. I don't care if they're not actually czars. It doesn't make them any more constitutional.
I suggest you go
here. The link gives you information on what the czars really do. Take the Afghanistan "czar" for example. He is really a representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. Appointing such a position is one of the President's constitutional powers. And I rarely heard complaints when Bush appointed "czars". Frankly, were there any complaints when it was done prior to Obama at all? This whole concept of czars is nothing new, nor is it any threat to freedom. In short, it is ridiculous to attack Obama over appointing people to head the various bureacracies and agencies, a practice that I can assure you has been around longer than any of us on this forum.
D-Jizzy
Oct 12 2009, 03:45 PM
I have not really heard of the practice before. That is why I had not criticized it previously.
It does not affect MY freedoms, but it can upset the carefully-placed checks and balances put within the federal government by the Constitution. That is my problem with the idea.
Scrum
Oct 12 2009, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (Adam? @ Oct 12 2009, 06:42 AM)

No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!

I think Glenn Beck hacked Adam
D-Jizzy
Oct 12 2009, 03:49 PM
QUOTE (Scrum @ Oct 12 2009, 04:46 PM)

QUOTE (Adam? @ Oct 12 2009, 06:42 AM)

No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!

I think Glenn Beck hacked Adam
Glenn Beck would have started on a batshizzle insane tirade.
Scrum
Oct 12 2009, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Oct 12 2009, 09:49 PM)

QUOTE (Scrum @ Oct 12 2009, 04:46 PM)

QUOTE (Adam? @ Oct 12 2009, 06:42 AM)

No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!

I think Glenn Beck hacked Adam
Glenn Beck would have started on a batshizzle insane tirade.
No he was too emotional to start that, he loves America too much.
Maybe he'd get off the wailing in 5 minutes or so.
Samurai Kenji
Oct 12 2009, 05:36 PM
Tbh FOX is no more biased then any other nws station. There just absolutekt terrible at being subtle and going under the radar/. It's impossible for a person to be completely unbiased without stating absolute pure fact. The script writers for the shows have opinions and beliefs on issues and fox's writer(s) just happen to be pretty far right-wing.
I prefer to watch a news channel that has a view on an issue whether it's my view or not it gives me something to think about rather then 45 minutes of wikipedia article fact.
Maggotswr
Oct 12 2009, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (chaos9999 @ Oct 12 2009, 01:28 PM)

QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Oct 12 2009, 04:16 PM)

Bro, I don't like the czars either. That's probably the only sane thing that Hannity discusses, getting rid of the czars. I don't care if they're not actually czars. It doesn't make them any more constitutional.
I suggest you go
here. The link gives you information on what the czars really do. Take the Afghanistan "czar" for example. He is really a representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan. Appointing such a position is one of the President's constitutional powers. And I rarely heard complaints when Bush appointed "czars". Frankly, were there any complaints when it was done prior to Obama at all? This whole concept of czars is nothing new, nor is it any threat to freedom. In short, it is ridiculous to attack Obama over appointing people to head the various bureacracies and agencies, a practice that I can assure you has been around longer than any of us on this forum.
for those that don't like reading
Dager
Oct 13 2009, 05:33 PM
The only "News" part about News is murder, rape, floods, charity, etc. All the other "details" are just opinions.
Sobend
Oct 13 2009, 05:38 PM
The only person I like at Fox News is Bill O'Reily. Everyone else drives me insane because they are too biased.
embluss
Oct 14 2009, 11:21 AM

ok, beck and Hannity are definitly republicans- I'll give you that- but O'Reilly and the morning and early evening people are not propagandists. Fox- with the exception of beck and Hannity- are far less biased than msnbc, nbc, and cnn. it is insane to call people propagandists for not going along with everything the president says and does.
Maggotswr
Oct 15 2009, 01:25 AM
@ Sobend and embluss
Beck is a moron not a Republican. No self respecting Republican would like to be paired up with the likes of him. and do you honestly think O'Reily and the morning people would ever consider siding with a Democrat...on any issue? All of their opinions seem to be the exact same opinions of ever other Republican in the House and Senate.
Vera
Oct 15 2009, 01:33 AM
QUOTE (embluss @ Oct 14 2009, 11:21 AM)


ok, beck and Hannity are definitly republicans- I'll give you that- but O'Reilly and the morning and early evening people are not propagandists. Fox- with the exception of beck and Hannity- are far less biased than msnbc, nbc, and cnn. it is insane to call people propagandists for not going along with everything the president says and does.
I like how your avatar says "I have no idea what the hell a socialist is!". Although O'Reilly isn't intentionally partisan, his conservative bias is obvious. O'Reilly claims to be independent, Beck claims to be libertarian, but in the end, they're conservative nuts.
Sparhawke
Oct 15 2009, 05:14 AM
I have always likened most American news channels and imparticular FOX as nothing but televised circuses.
If you want unbiased coverage of the world stage watch the BBC, one of the most respected channels in the world, with decades of experience of journalism, if you want entertainment, watch Fox News...brought to you by an entertainment company.
But generally all people will be biased in some way and there is no way around it, you just have to find the better sides to watch and make up your own mind.
Morte
Oct 16 2009, 02:05 PM
There's a reason I don't watch any major news station. Because they lean one way or another. However, I find it hilarious that a few people are saying that FOX is blatantly biased, but not mentioning the other party-butt-kissing stations.
Is it because they're against your views? Do they say something that makes you uncomfortable because it just might be true, so you lash out at the station, not the view itself?
If we condemn one news station, we condemn all who do the same. And, you know? I'd be fine with that.
Fruityfed
Oct 16 2009, 03:21 PM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-sept...lin-gender-cardMight not be able to view it if you're not from the US, dunno. Just thought it was interesting.
Samarkov
Oct 16 2009, 07:23 PM
QUOTE (LightSlei @ Oct 11 2009, 07:38 PM)

Yes.
That's common knowledge

.
FOX does not = News.
CNN has been going the way FOX has lately except that they're licking the Democrats to death like little puppies.

.
I honestly hate the American News Stations now.
I agree with you. Both stations are biased, and to get thw hole truth anymore, you need to watch both 24/7 and interpret it the way you want.

~~Samarkov
Mohorak
Oct 16 2009, 07:25 PM
Ok, one more thing.
I really like both The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. They make fun of everyone equally, so I feel it's less biased than the regular news stations :ironic: .
But I heard that Comedy Central is owned by FOX. Is this true? And if so, do you think FOX minds being made fun of?
Samarkov
Oct 16 2009, 07:27 PM
QUOTE (Mohorak @ Oct 16 2009, 05:25 PM)

Ok, one more thing.
I really like both The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. They make fun of everyone equally, so I feel it's less biased than the regular news stations :ironic: .
But I heard that Comedy Central is owned by FOX. Is this true? And if so, do you think FOX minds being made fun of?
I'm not entirely sure if this is true, but they probably don't really care. Always good to laugh at yourself.
~~Samarkov
Definition
Oct 16 2009, 07:31 PM
QUOTE (Mohorak @ Oct 16 2009, 08:25 PM)

Ok, one more thing.
I really like both The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. They make fun of everyone equally, so I feel it's less biased than the regular news stations :ironic: .
But I heard that Comedy Central is owned by FOX. Is this true? And if so, do you think FOX minds being made fun of?
Murdoch would kill Jon Stewart's career if he had the chance.
I am not joking.
Comedy Central is owned by Viacom, which is owned by Paramount, and used to be owned by CBS,
Saberwolf116
Oct 18 2009, 11:36 AM
Of course they're biased; all American news networks are when it comes to U.S. politics, hence the reason I read non-U.S. news agencies.
the mon
Oct 18 2009, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (Scrum @ Oct 12 2009, 03:51 PM)

QUOTE (Demon Jelly @ Oct 12 2009, 09:49 PM)

QUOTE (Scrum @ Oct 12 2009, 04:46 PM)

QUOTE (Adam? @ Oct 12 2009, 06:42 AM)

No, they're not. They just *sniff*, they just love America SO DAMN MUCH!
I think Glenn Beck hacked Adam
Glenn Beck would have started on a batshizzle insane tirade.
No he was too emotional to start that, he loves America too much.
Maybe he'd get off the wailing in 5 minutes or so.
He would probably tell everybody to get off the phone. Even though this is a forum.
All news stations are biased, but Fox is especially biased.
Ph201
Oct 18 2009, 09:32 PM
Fox is very especially biased.
Fang
Oct 18 2009, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (blad @ Oct 12 2009, 12:34 AM)

None of the stations have any news anyways, it's sensationalist crap. Fox kisses the republicans' asses, MSNBC kisses the democrats' asses, CNN just talks about whatever young blond girl is missing this week. NPR is the way to go
+1 to this, bro.
But you have to admit, Keith Olberman is hilarious.
Ph201
Oct 18 2009, 10:29 PM
I like the BBC every night as I go to sleep.
Fnord
Oct 19 2009, 06:49 PM
I think that Faux news consists of political commentators, which spin the news and comment on it, but some like Billo the clown have the nerve to say they don't spin it;
Maggotswr
Oct 20 2009, 01:54 AM
QUOTE (Fang @ Oct 18 2009, 07:53 PM)

QUOTE (blad @ Oct 12 2009, 12:34 AM)

None of the stations have any news anyways, it's sensationalist crap. Fox kisses the republicans' asses, MSNBC kisses the democrats' asses, CNN just talks about whatever young blond girl is missing this week. NPR is the way to go
+1 to this, bro.
But you have to admit, Keith Olberman is hilarious.
apparently he does football(NFL) commentary. which is weird. he is funny though, in a mess with the liberal kinda way(my favorite)
P.S. Rachel Maddow rocks
Redicaluss
Oct 22 2009, 06:04 PM
Anyone can see that Fox isn't a good source of news at all. I'm a conservative and I hate the ignorance and nincompoopery that goes on in those studios. CNN is the same way, just in the liberal direction. I only really trust BBC as a steady mainstream news source.
Axindarkfire
Oct 29 2009, 02:23 PM
FOX is a political operation by the far right, and does a poor job of hiding this. It is NOT a news station, it is a political opinion station. Also, it happens to be an opinion that has been tried and failed every time it was used! And people still think it is a good thing!
What people do not understand, is that socialism is NOT the same thing as communism. Communism fails.
Free public education, police, fire departments...those are ALL socialized systems. Countries with socialized medicine pay 1/4 of the cost for 4 times the quality as compared to the US.
Blyaunte
Oct 29 2009, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (Axindarkfire @ Oct 29 2009, 03:23 PM)

FOX is a political operation by the far right, and does a poor job of hiding this. It is NOT a news station, it is a political opinion station.
Orly? Hell - I thought it was a comedy network ...
Axindarkfire
Oct 29 2009, 03:15 PM
/Orly? Hell - I thought it was a comedy network .../
LOL it would be HILARIOUS if it was a bunch of Poes working together!
But, sadly, even if this was true, there are still people who base their opinions off of what they heard on fox
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