It is a sad world when there are no small~mid sized clans out there anymore. Big clans have their fun, but small clans are where everything starts. I feel like all the people around here have let themselves down because everyone is to scared to try something. Everyone in Ancient Legion, Illusion, Gladz, CR, Anyone who still post here....PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MY SANITY CREATE A NEW CLAN. I miss seeing rivalries take place. I miss see two clans competing just for the sake of their name. Yeah the clan you are in is good...but it started from nothing. Make a clan and do what you want with it. Make it how you like. Shape it to your needs/wants. I'm almost willing to actually play RS again just to make a clan to fight against someone and make a new rivalry(Not going to happen though).


PEOPLE....STEP IT UP....DO SOMETHING....MAKE PEOPLE REMEMBER YOU....IT'S NOW OR NEVER.....

Hey, Ancient Legion is still alive -- we had two wars today and won them both.

I know your alive...every clan I mentioned is still alive. What I said was for one of your members to leave your clan and start a new one. Then I'd be able to watch E-Drama....

Really? I despised seeing clans fighting for the most ridiculous reasons... But I got a strange kick out of it.

I might make a clan.

We PK 3-4 times a week. It's a shame that the only clans we saw this week were CoR, RoT, NI, DK and VR.

It's always fun watching clans fight for stupid reasons. Make a clan and I'll make one and we can be rivals lol.

Do it yourself.

Sorry Chris I am super inactive right now, and I don't see any new clans in my future right now.

Unless you want to make one?

As Lamb said, we won 2 wars reciently, but with no solid place to post, they were both fun wars. If we can get word out that these boards still exist, then we can start posting again. As for starting a new clan, well....with the fall of Sal's CD, we(AL)just barely survived and we are a semi-top clan in the small/mid clan world, so starting a new clan would be impossible. Also, why is Feverient here? Srsly.....

Because I wub you honey.

But seriously, Sals CD has returned, it's in the works. The whole small and medium sized clan world is holding its breath. We'll fill the void you all so desperately need. This place has only whinos and complainers.

There's no one here with the 'get-up and go' that running a Clan Disc needs. Y'all should move on out.

Haha oh how the mighty have become the weak. I would laugh in your face if I could, but since that's not plausible I will instead just laugh at you(Any returning comment about how your "E-Thug IRL" or you'd "killz me" or that I wouldn't actually do it is just a retarded reply waiting for me to take control. Please don't make it easy for me to make you look like your a mentally deranged person.)

Too many distinguished members have left for RSC. It won't be like the old days just because Sal's CD(fake)lives, I mean who do you guys have that makes you so proud? Orichocos? lol. Also, Feverient, you have only a few posts on your post count. Tell me, is this your first time(you, as a person sitting infront of a computer)ever posting on Sal's or are you a returning member banned by the "evil" mods?

Exer is also still alive and warring 3 times a week. We barelly lose fights but We don't post our wars anymore on zybez because we are tired of all the flaming wars which comes arround ... and on sals yea ... tbh sals is dying out imo.

I've quited rs 1.5 years ago and if i see sals now then its quite dead.

and tbh whats the point of pking when only clans you meet nowadays are top 10 who slaughter your poor 60-90 ops in less then 10 mins ... makes no sence.

The only thing which comes up to me is start pking with clans and team up against the bigger ones. how else can u even stand a chance ?

There are more places than one to PK in the wilderness. If smaller clans wanted to have Pk Ri's without being bothered than all they have to do is to look around and find alternatives.

The clan world is dying. Join a large clan while they are still open.

the clan world isn't dying, it's just changing

long live seduction

Yup, gotta admit its pretty sad to see that this place died out. We had it pretty good in 06-07.

I agree

On Topic, a lot of small clans are about to open soon.

Theres Tainted Legends a Gk, cast off. Another clan that Pkpete is taking part in. The less mentionable Vanquished also known as Tukuruk #27 (his streak continues). Vengeance. As it as the clanworld for the smaller based clans isn't dieing they just go straight to mainstream and cant survive at rsc because of all the drama. Direct them here and things would be different.

On a side note Welcome Back Seduction, Wish you guys the best.

WELL I JUST JOINED EVERLASTING SOULS

AND WE'RE GONNA WAR DIVINE HEROES, OREOS' CLAN!

PREPARE FOR E-DRAMA

go join vanquished bro

tuk loves it

I haven't posted here in mucho time.

Really all you need back is Ronin.

Definition of a Cwa Clan.

I've failed too many times to attempt another, lol.

But yeah. Hi.

It was really sad to see a some idiots that weren't even part of this community since the beginning, idiots that couldn't even follow pretty simple rules and got banned for stupid reasons such as having large signature because they were too awesome and couldn't be bothered to read the rules, ruin the good clan community we had here. Sure it wasn't perfect but no community is perfect, just look at RSC. Then after being banned the idiots decided to start an anti Sal's moderator campaign and somehow they managed to convince some people that were actually good posters to join their small pathetic riot. They decided to create their own failed community that lasted what? 3 months maybe? Did anyone really think that some forums led by idiots that couldn't even follow simple rules would last?
I really doubt this place will become active again. The idiots that ruined it will never come back, and all the respectable Sal's CD members that actually were here since the beginning and helped making Sal's the second biggest clan community are all retired and don't have patience to start new clans. People like Chris, PkPete, Bears, Destiny, Finished, Shino, Roamy and a lot more. I really miss the old rivalries between clans like 3xtermination, Blaze, The Revolution, Forgotten Templars, DDB, Eclipse, Triforce, Sunflower Mafia, DG, VVV, GoG, Heretic Destiny, Incendiary, TBW/DB, GK and all the other cool clans. Good times.
The clan world is going through a pretty tough time, small-mid clans are closing (and even some top clans like DI, SE, EH etc) and all the members are joining the top clans. There are huge power gaps now, like who can take VR 1v1? It takes DF, Corr, EoS and some NI to stop VR and because of the whole crashing war clan like RSD and TT don't have anyone to fight and it wouldn't surprise me if they closed too.

I know what you mean! The clan I am in has upwards to 30 members, but we know each other very closely. Some of these members I have been a clan with sense around 2007. Smaller clans can have advantages, because they will be able to know every member better.

Micael, you said the exact same thing 3 months ago and this is the result of noone heeding your advice.

Someone needs to step up and make some new forums. Im getting tired of reading only RSC and EoS forums.

Can people stop complaining about what has been done in the past? Get over it. This place will never be as active as it once was. To many original Sals Clans have closed. Agree or Disagree with what happened, the truth of the matter is the Moderators on this site had no intentions of helping the CD expand. They didn't care what happened. They lost a significant amount of users and web traffic and didn't blink an eye.

This CD was going no where, like a car spinning in mud. While I definatly think it should have been handled diffrently, the idea was sound in making a new site. We needed something to spice things up and I think its pretty obvious that the majoirty of the community felt so to..

If you guys are aiming to makes sals active again, the ill be right behind you. Sals was fun, and i enjoyed it with MOD. And if people think the small clan world is dieing then i truely dont agree from personal experience with Mod.

Actually I will pretty much read over anything RedShuster post because I find it to be rather....uninteresting. On the other hand, if anyone else has anything to say then by all means speak your will as I am all ears. Micael is corrected in his ideology, and it was because of some 'fat-heads' that this section went way wrong. The community was fine with the rules because we were very much under-moderated. The only people you can blame for that is ourselves for not reporting enough post. Had we given the moderators an incentive to look in here than maybe it could have been a little cleaner, but the fact of the matter is that nothing was broken. It's like a lot of older people say, "If it ain't broke, than why fix it?" This simple question means so much now days. People think they have new, better, easier, and simplified ways to do pretty much anything. Once again, they are wrong though...

If any of you 'older' people on these forums, whose opinions I actually respect, care to discuss possible ways to slowly make a move in the right direction then message me. I am long retired, and I will not guarantee you anything other then the fact I will do what I can when I can.

Possibly the most fatuous argument I've seen thus far, Sals certainly out does itself in terms of hosting FAIL more frequently than I surmised. Your vituperative display quoted above concerns some six hundred people - that's six hundred 'idiots' by the way. The sole premise of your argument is that every known community is thoroughly flawed, therefore all the 'idiots' should return to Sals because this place can be no worse than any other.

Hold on. Have you any idea what it takes to lead and be in a clan? The time? The dedication? You're welcome to second best. They sure as Hell have second rate intelligence perusing and posting away.

Forgive us if we strive for something better. Keep your 'what ifs' and 'maybes,' I'd rather spend that time failing my way to success than fail my way into a bottomless pit of pessimism and despair. The carrot and stick approach Mods wielded here failed catastrophically, there are other places clanners can go and the reformed Sals CD will do its utmost to provide not only a haven to free thinkers, but an unbiased, discussion site tailored to the needs of clans, their members and other stakeholders.

What Michael says isn't advice - it's the midnless rantings of a feeble-minded naysayer who should use paragraphs and a spoiler saying "Beware, spewing utter drivel and copious crap here!"

Anyhow, yes, Sals CD is back and it will be open very soon - same location as before /forums Thank yours truly for the Pro Skin A place where clans are central to the site, rather than just an afterthought? Thall be Sals CD.

I never said I wanted the idiots back bud, I want the good members that were forced to leave because this place became inactive when you started your failed forums that didn't last 5 months, these members I miss all quit now and obviously are not coming back. As for the idiots, the ones who caused all the trouble, when they left only two words came to my mind. "Good riddance".

I've been clanning since I was level 83, so that's around 4 years of clanning.
Not all the individuals were made to be leaders and I just don't have the time nor the energy to lead a clan. But I've lead PvP teams and never had any problems. I don't know what this has to do with my intelligence through but seeing that you seem to think your superior than me I'm sure you'll explain me.

Something better? But the thing is there was nothing wrong here in the first place, I remember when the first clans started posting here (yeah before you joined this community I'm sure ) members of this community used to say "this is Sal's not RSC take back your flames and spam to where you came from" whenever someone trolled this forum. And the thing is the moderators you idiots criticized so much were the ones that made this place flame free by following the rules and warning people for breaking the rules instead of just deleting their posts like rsc moderators do most times. Before 2 or 3 people started the anti-mod campaign nobody ever had complained about the mods. You cried so much you wanted to have more mods here (while most of you just wanted to be promoted to feel superior) when they gave you a mod that followed the rules like you wanted half of you instantly got banned for stupid things because you didn't bother to read the rules.

This just proved how intelligent you actually are. Your just another idiot that uses other people's grammatical errors to try to look e-cool and that flames anyone who disagrees with him.

Who the heck are you anyway I've been here since the start and I'm pretty sure I've never seen you before. Looking at your post count you just came here to start crap or your one of the members that couldn't follow super simple rules and got banned.

Whats the point in argueing in whats happened, best thing to do is try to find a solution. Even if SalCD/Refuge worked, we would've still had a nice medium sized claning community. But that didn't quite work out/hasn't worked out, and current Sals is also not working out.

Problem is, that there aren't that many medium/small sized clans around today. Best thing I can think of is to just invite or advise clans to post here, to help flurish a small community again.

I can see this current thread still going on and on, with only arguements and if's/but's, which is pointless.

Also, people shouldn't really blame individuals for the switch from sals to salscd, because from what I remember, the majority at the time were in favour of the switch mainly due to some questionable/lack of moderation within these forums. I just hope that another small community is started which is successful, whether it be here or somewhere else doesn't matter.

Hardly anyone will return to the new salscd.

Respect Michael

The community is already starting to trickle back here. Like anything, it will take time before we have a decent community again. Right now Ancient Legion, Seduction, The Sabres, Gladz(to a degree) are all posting semi-actively. What would make the community more interesting would be a rivalry between someone, or a new clan to challenge everyone and get people more active again.

did you guys miss me?

Really? No, we thrived when Bounty hunter first came out. We developed because of what we did in BH, but when BH was turned to single, we couldn't do anything. CWA was the only thing and we were great at that too. In fact, we had at least 20% more people come to our BH fights than CWA fights because they knew we would win. Everyone knew we would win in that PvP type situation. What are you going to do when JaGex takes out BH, stop fighting? At least we continued with the clan and became great at fighting in CWA.

I'm just happy that it seems a few people are starting to come back, and we are seeing some new clans emerge.

Yes, new clans like Everlasting Souls.[/shameless advertising]

Would it be possible for me to get Micael, Claw, Lambug, and Dager in an IRC channel at some point this weekend? I would very much like to discuss something with all of you at once.

I'm ok with it, idk about the others though.

I understand what you guys are chatting about. Everytime I try to look for a clan with a semi small clan like mine, I barely find any on Sal's. It's usually filled up with top clans with 50+ members and requirements with like 90+ opts etc. It's really hard to find a decent clan to war, but hey...I can deal with it. I hope you guys will somehow find a way to relieve this, good luck!

Never really heard of your clan before, but would you like to join us in our conversation possibly tonight?

Our clan is somewhat new to the RS communities, but we've been a clan for around 7 years. We're leaving our isolation of 6 years

Sorry, the CK does not use an IRC channel. It's mostly a "new concept" with IRC channels for us, but I would be really glad to join your conversation if possible.

All we need to know is what IRC to join....

I'll let ya'll know about this time tomorrow night. I'm at the hunting camp so I don't have an IRC client on my computer. I should be able to get in touch with ya'll tomorrow.

I offered merges to many clans but they all died instead of accepting i wonder whos nexy.

Merges really never work, Leadership conflicts ect.
Unless you're VR. You just hand out ranks so you don't lose members, that always works to.

You are Silly, As an ex Vr member your bs offends me. The ranks of vr are pretty consistent.