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Gavin
I read this recently. It was something that Bertrand Russell said. Basically, it postulates that everything has a cause. I've read time and time again in other threads that something had to have caused the Big Bang and this must be God because nothing can come out of nowhere. God is the cause of everything. But then, what made God? If we suppose that something needs a cause, then we must suppose that this is true for God as well. Now, some may say that God is incomprehensible and that he was always there. The problem is then that if we can then suppose that something doesn't need a cause, why is it so hard to believe that the something else eg Big Bang doesn't need a cause? This is a logical fallacy. If one thinks like this logically, they are somewhat contradicting themselves. So to prevent the contradiction, we suppose that everything does not necessarily require a cause (as we've done so for God).
Dwarrior
If not everything requires a cause, then isn't in plausible that we weren't created by god, nor the big bang?
Dreak
'everything has a cause' is simply a reason not to kill/destroy something

sure, everything has a function SOMEWHERE, but that doesn't mean we can't miss them



about god, there has never been any logical thing in religion.
Blyaunte
QUOTE (Dwarrior)
If not everything requires a cause, then isn't in plausible that we weren't created by god, nor the big bang?


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Tabt
Maybe its a Russian Doll situation, God was made by a bigger God, who was made by a bigger God who was made by a..you get it idea tongue.gif

You never know. stranger things have happened laugh.gif
Demutig_wind
Please no, you don't know what kind of headache it gives me trying to envision nothingness. Last time I spaced out for close to 3 hours just trying to think about nothingness, a true void. It is completely beyond human comprehension to envision nothingness. You might come up with black, but black in wrong. And emptiness is wrong.

Anyway, M-theory says nothingness is impossible to attain, nothing cannot exist and anything can happen given infinity, all it takes is for the right vibrations and an entire universe can pop out of nowhere or perhaps a deity. And technically that is not a beginning since as soon as they are brought into existence, they always existed.
Gavin
QUOTE (Demutig_wind @ Nov 3 2009, 04:16 AM) *
Please no, you don't know what kind of headache it gives me trying to envision nothingness. Last time I spaced out for close to 3 hours just trying to think about nothingness, a true void. It is completely beyond human comprehension to envision nothingness. You might come up with black, but black in wrong. And emptiness is wrong.

Anyway, M-theory says nothingness is impossible to attain, nothing cannot exist and anything can happen given infinity, all it takes is for the right vibrations and an entire universe can pop out of nowhere or perhaps a deity. And technically that is not a beginning since as soon as they are brought into existence, they always existed.


Lets not bring M-theory into things anymore because I don't think you're qualified as a string theorist to make these claims about physical reality. Also, string theory is at the moment, not a description of reality. Enough with your pseudoscience and fancy terms.
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