Click This

one NFT for the road please

Yo. Surprised you remembered your password, actually.

Hello.

So... Roleplay anyone?

Holy shizzle, Fencefry! That's a really nostalgic name. How've you been?

I got the email saying I've been here for 8 years. I don't know what to say.

What is this I am disappoint Goodbye

Hey, I never said I was leaving forever. Thanks guys.

It seems that I’ve also reached the end of my road here at Sal’s. It’s been a long way with many memories and many experiences that I cherish, but I feel it’s time to end my journey here. I don’t deny that recent events helped me to reach this decision, but most of what I have come to know and love here at Sal’s has come and gone. I may be looking at some of these things with rose-tinted glasses, but the Roleplay Room, the Story Mat, the forum paper, the Salcast, and even the ‘Scape Lounge were great. Now, I find myself coming here rarely, and when I am here, I’ve little to do. So before I leave, I’d like to give a shout out to a few people for making Sal’s an awesome place, even if they’re no longer here to see it. Fake, Ellibereth, Redmonke, Bob-Sama, Zooey, Luna, Ent, Finisterra, Dani, Aliath, Silavor, Snow, Leo, Finway, Emanick, Naota, Sonata, Ryo, Adam?, Goggie, and any of you who I may have forgotten about –You guys are awesome. Thank you. If anybody wants to keep in touch, my Steam name is still Click This, and I also am Click This over at RPGuild. My e-mail has been the same for years. Thanks for all your time. I’ll probably drop in every so often. It’s a damn shame that Sal’s has declined so much over the years. Ciao.

Well it seems everyone's been sitting around for the past few months waiting for someone else to start a RP thread. Someone's gotta just sit down and do it, and that sounds like a fun idea for an RP. I'd say run with it! That's the gist of it, but I'm less inclined to start one in the Lounge and I feel others are as well. The only way I see roleplays even remotely working in the 'Lounge would be to either pin topics or have an entirely separate subforum within it, which we've all but agreed is impossible.

My argument is for having the roleplays put into the Library, unless I'm misinterpreting your sentence. >.<

But you won't get any RPs going if the RP community refuses to post here. As for topics getting pinned, well I highly doubt that's going to happen. It would be favouring a group of people over other groups, what if the Mafia players decided they wanted their popular Mafia games pinned too? What if Adam? and the DSZ fans decide they want the DSZ topic pinned? What if the bronies decide they need a topic pinned too? I just don't see it working. The way is see it the moderators have presented their argument as to why the RPs should stay here, and it's a good argument, but now they should let the RP community decide. Because if refusing to move the RP topics to the Library means killing the RP community (if they do not accept the mod team decision) then I think you'll agree it's preferable to move the topics. I don't know about you but I'd much rather have the RP community last a little longer (even if not much longer) than lose it right now because of this. The bold is where I got the idea of some RPers boycotting, because, if they resist the change, what other way are they resisting other than to not RP here. I interpreted that more of being less-inclined to roleplay, but I suppose we shouldn't nitpick and get back on the main topic of fixing this stuff.

'Tis alright, Micael. It happens. :P Seacon, you implied that some of us would boycott the 'Lounge should the mods decide against it, which to me, came out of nowhere.

When did I put any words in your mouth? In both occasions I used the word 'might' - "[...] 'might' not accept the decision[...]" "[...] 'might' only have two options [...]". Never said it was a fact you or anyone else would stop RPing nor even once mentioned your name in one of my posts. I merely stated it was a possibility keeping the topics here would do more harm than good, and seeing as the RP community is almost dead the only thing worse than 'almost dead' as far as I know is 'dead'. Common sense. So please I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth. Peace, Micael. I was addressing Seaconmorae.

Sure, but what about people that are not roleplaying in such theoretical aforementioned roleplay?

Here's your account you made almost exactly a year ago.

First thing's first. Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said I or any roleplayers would actively refuse to post in the 'Scape Lounge should nothing happen. Although, you may right that I would be further discouraged to create a roleplay in the Lounge in the fear of wasting time and effort. In this particular case, the change is difficult because it absurd. Players that intend to roleplay do no go looking for roleplays in a Lounge, they go looking in the creative section, which in our case is now the Library. There are a multitude of other forums that place their roleplays and roleplaying community within a 'Library' type subforum. With that said, potential roleplayers are more likely to mistake a roleplay in the Lounge as a forum game and pass it off; conversely, people that mistake it for a forum game might enter it and derail it. This was seen in the latest mafia game, although the mods dealt with it like a champ. The Scape Lounge may get the most traffic in the forum, but it does not mean that it is the right traffic. I know a few odd roleplayers that check by every so often to see if a roleplay has sprung up. How will they react when they see no roleplaying section at all? Well, they'll check the Library, expecting, logically, for them to be there, and when they don't see it, they'll probably leave, never to come back. Now, I'm saying this is going to be case, but it's a likely scenario that further tears apart the community.

By that extention, does not Mafia threads belong there as well? :P Have you seen what the Scape Loungue's Mafia games are like? They're basically giant repetitive arguments, I don't see how that's anywhere near the same as a collaborative story. Any mafia game is a repetitive argument which squabble over details, trying to pinpoint a flaw, or some form of inconsistency which might be exposed as a lie. I would consider mafia games to be roleplaying at a rather high level, because you need to put yourselves into the shoes of a role with limitations, and you need to basically act it out for your own survival. Regardless of the quality of Scape Lounge games, a cop needs to connect his investigations with posting patterns, a doctor needs to stay out of suspicion, a jester needs to be suspicious while not obviously so, and the mafia needs to appear pro-town. Scape Lounge games might have a higher ratio of players failing to live up to their roles, but they still try to play their role. It is storytelling, just from a different perspective and in real-time. After all, a mafia game is the reality crafted by the Game Master and the decisions made by the players. It really is not that different from the reality crafted in a RP thread, though the form of it is rather different. :P Although, when everything is said and done, my question was mainly a diversion from my main argument from the Moderator's Forum. I just wanted some additional impressions and opinions on other arguments to gauge whether or not the sum of opposing arguments is compelling enough to outweigh the pros for having them stay in the Scape Lounge. :P Albeit that may be true, at the end of the day, a roleplay is still a higher quality written piece than a mafia game. The perfectly executed mafia game will never live up to a perfectly written roleplay that hasended. Ideally, a finished roleplay at the end could be bundled up and sold as a novel if the roleplayers wished, publishing issues aside. A mafia game could never achieve that. The major motivations behind my argument is simply preservation. Keeping these things in the Scape Lounge ruins any further chance for roleplaying to continue, where it is not appreciated, and it also makes it difficult to read back on a roleplay as one would do in the Library. Just as I like to read stories in the Library, I like to read past roleplays. There's also the matter of purging; the Scape Lounge has commonly been purged, but the Library has not been purged in seven years. I don't want to lose the roleplays to a purge.

In your own opinion, Micael, what exactly would be the harm in keeping them in the Lounge, if you look beyond the Library as an argument? :P Several reasons, one being the Scape Lounge having the highest topic turnover rate in the entire forum, and the fact that the Roleplay Room has never been purged before, making the Scape Lounge a clusterfudge of topics that makes it impossible to find or navigate to topics that you want to reread. As I stated before, there is a clear distinction in the quality of writing in roleplays than the topics found in the Scape Lounge, and should belong in the Library as literary pieces, not to rot in the Scape Lounge left to die behind the slew of welcome and leaving topics.

No problem --It's disappointing to see such a thing happening. Now it's a waiting game.

http://runescape.salmoneus.net/forums/topic/360185-what-happened-to-the-roleplay-room-and-its-topics/

RIP Roleplay room, 2007-2013. Let's hope we're merged back into the Library.

I've already given my input on the other thread, but I'd just like to reiterate that it would be best to have the former Roleplay room merged into the Library.

Glad to hear. Thank you. Hopefully this can be all sorted out.