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Any Canters not visited the Citadel yet this week?
Solarspot posted a blog entry in A Spot in the Corner
Anybody in Canting not visited the citadel yet this week? We're still at 19 visitors, around 3 hours away from the build tick. -
Apparently I'm back. And writing on my Runescape blog. Been in Runescape (itself) a few times recently, even despite leaving for the better part of a year. Can't say I exactly like seeing the squeal of fortune, or most of the other new offers... But I missed Canting away. Also, I observed myself buying a month's membership card a little while ago. So I might have one more go at the game after all. And just pretend most of the stuff added to the game since last year doesn't exist. So how's everybody been?
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Canting and Luring: Are We Talking About the Same Thing Here?
Merch Gwyar posted a blog entry in Merch Gwyar's Blog
The subject of luring has been a hot topic recently in Canting Away. But are we all talking about the same thing? Our clan was targeted by people (or person, on multiple accounts, as some suspect), who sought to take advantage of the famous generosity of Canting members. Alongside inconsistencies in stories, or retelling the same one in private with several different people, it soon became clear what was happening. The guilty party was immediately banned, but the sense of betrayal remained. It's hardly surprising, therefore, that some Canters are vigilantly watching new members, in case it's the same scammer returned. I've been approached with a request to ban all item loaning and present giving within our clan. I've resisted, because that's not Canting's way. We've survived since 2007 with the minimum of rules (and those largely matters of IRL protection and in-game equality). The family that we've built has been forged around genuine friendship, compassion and kindness. It would be a shame to even attempt to smack a sledgehammer response down over there, just because of one bad egg. Especially since that person was only in the clan for a week. But that isn't all. These conversations have been using the word 'luring' a lot. The trouble is that no-one has defined what that means within the context. Luring can be a clever PKing strategy, which even I can respect. Or it can be a heinous PKing abuse, which I most certainly do not. Let me give examples of these two things. Imagine for a moment that Cossack says to Gri3f that he wants to fight him in the Wilderness. They should both bring their best fighting outfits, with spiky bits everywhere, and as much food and potions as they wish to take. Gri3f says, 'Kk!', gets changed and rushes off to the ditch. Coss follows him, but at the 11th hour doesn't jump the ditch. Gri3f does and finds, to his horror, that Warlock and I are waiting with runes and arrows at the ready. Warlock binds him. I shoot arrows at him. Gri3f dies in a screaming fit of pixels and we all share his Bandos and rocktails between us. Coss would have lured him, but this is fine, because Gri3f is a pwnage PKer and he knew precisely what he was getting into. He was fully aware of the (no) rules of the Wilderness and how to defend himself in it. It would have been his own stupidity that got him killed. (And also the fact that this little scenario is pure fantasy, as Gri3f could PK the crap out of the three of us put together; and there's no way I'd even be in the Wilderness to be shooting arrows.) My feeling is that PKing is fine for those who want to do it. The story above told sounds to me like PKing strategy. I don't like it, but then again, I don't like PKing. That's no reason for me to want other people to abstain from it. The strength of Canting is that we each do our own thing. This gives us a lot of great in-game expertise to fall back on. Take the Sal's clan wars at Xmas. We'd have been in trouble if Gri3f hadn't been there to help us. To me, luring is when someone who doesn't know the dangers is being taken where (s)he can be PKed. In my scenario, Gri3f knew from the outset that he was crossing into the Wildy for a PKing session. He knew what the Wildy is. At least that's how I would read it. But then you get the other sort of luring. When I was a mithril noob, being told to pull the Ardy lever because it takes me somewhere good, I didn't know what the Wilderness was. I had no idea what PKing was. I was told in advance that it wasn't dangerous on the other side of that lever. That is luring in its worst form; and that is what I'd not like to see in Canting. What happened to us, with regards the scamming individual, is being called luring, but is it that? It was malicious greed, but it had nothing to do with PKing. For the sake of Canting's PKers, I think we should be clarifying exactly what we're trying to say here. <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 I now want to hand over to Warlock. As a member of Canting practically since its inception, he knows well the ethos there. He's also long been a general of the clan, which is a decision that I have never regretted. He is very used to overseeing queries and complaints, though we get few enough of those in such a laid-back clan as Canting Away. Moreover, he has experience of PKing itself. Personally I think what he has to say is very valuable here. Consider him a guest blogger hereon. Warlock's Take on Canting and Luring Firstly, I'm not entirely certain that I agree with some Canters' view of lurers, While I don't necessarily approve of them, and they try to take advantage of less experienced players by playing off their lack of knowledge and potential greed, there are fundamental differences. In the vast majority of cases, lures depend on the player being lured entering the Wilderness (or dangerous Clan Wars arena), despite the multiple warning by Jagex that other players can (and, most likely, will) attack them, and not to bring anything at all that they are not prepared to lose. This step is always made by the player being lured, it is always their choice to take the metaphorical 'leap of faith', as it were; it is extremely difficult to be lured if you listen to the warnings, since starting RuneScape in 2004, I have not once fallen victim to a lure, almost solely because I've read the warnings presented to me. and not given other players I've just met the opportunity to do so. While I'm not necessarily supporting luring, I see it as little different from any other form of PKing, if I were to go to the Mage Arena in level 52 Wilderness to get my God cape back, I wouldn't expect people not to attack me on the way merely because my aim was not to fight with them, the Wilderness is supposed to provide a balance of risk vs. reward, and lurers will almost always use the allure of a massive reward, the player being lured being the one to decide themselves that the risk is worth it. We have to consider both how banned lurers might react (potentially launching a 'luring vendetta' against Canting members as a form of vengeance?) as well as what any judgement might mean to the message Canting is sending out to other members. If we condemn lurers, do we also condemn RC PKers? What about people who PK KBD killers or Green Dragon hunters? The list goes on. Ultimately, the line between luring and other forms of PKing is often so thin, distinguishing between them in order to condemn luring often tends to a highly controversial and hypocritical rule being passed. I am aware that Merch Gwyar is not a great fan of PKing, but I'd like to think that even she sees that PKing has its place, and while being killed is often frustrating at best, it is a vital part of the game, and something many players enjoy greatly, training skills or even boss hunting merely doesn't provide the same thrill as PKing, nothing in RuneScape has a higher risk and, potentially, higher reward. This having been said, I would strongly recommend not taking disciplinary action against luring Canters, mostly because of the effect it could have on Canting's prosperity and growth as a clan, as well as the open and inviting atmosphere we intend to provide, rather than unfounded hostility against those who choose to partake in a perfectly legitimate aspect of the game. It may be worth reminding you that dicing, while also viewed as an atrocity by many people, was something that (a Canting member*) often partook in after his return, and, in my personal opinion, although I am evidently guilty of much bias, I still believe he's one of the greatest members Canting has ever had the privilege to have. I completely agree with Merch's feelings about diversity within the clan and it keeping us strong. I think what has kept me with Canting for so long is just that, there are no forced requirements, people are pretty much free to do as they please within the rules of the game, joining Canting doesn't mean you have to change your playing style at all if you don't want to, and I love that about it. It was for these reasons that, admittedly, I was initially skeptical about Canting becoming an official clan when the system was first released. I honestly thought that the lack of clan-like structure would cause massive problems within our ranks and that we should have stayed as a friend's chat. Since then, however, watching Canting develop as a clan has changed my mind. While, in the first few months, I still feared the structural differences from the conventional clan system would prove to be detrimental, having seen the bonds of friendship between our members tried and tested by updates alienating F2Pers or those who dislike skilling such as citadels, I'm confident that the right choice was made. Canting has grown in a way even I could never have imagined, it's no longer just a group of friends chatting, yet it's unlike any clan I've ever witnessed as well; in my mind, at least, it's become more of an international community than anything else, even stretching outside the boundaries of the virtual world with the meetup last year. While my rambling has deviated somewhat away from the issue of villanising luring, the underlying principle is interlinked. The diversity and accepting nature of our community is one of our greatest strengths, and to take that away would be little short of criminal. * Redacted by Merch Gwyar, as I didn't know if had that member's permission to include his name. ;)- 5 comments
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We were discussing the psychological significance of the Clan Citadels during a recent dialogue in Canting Away. During the process of this, Canting Away member and Gielinor citizen Lillantra made a rather unusual assertion. I am quoting her here so that her analysis may further research into the psychological and sociological significance of Clan Citadels henceforth. Note: The following contains language that may be too appropriate/articulate/graphic for some readers. Version of this post using euphemisms to hide the real meaning of everything said here coming soon. That is all.
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So... A few days ago Jagex announced that they were dropping support for some of the older versions of Java. This just so happened to include the version my computer had. It also just so happened to be the newest version my computer could run. :P I still had an old RS client installed. From 2 years ago or some such. Would it work? Nope. Download a new version. Install said version. And? It can't install on Windows 98. (my computer has Win98 SE, FYI). Talked to a few people on the forums and in Canting about it. Near everybody said I shouldn't be bothering with an 11 year old Pentium 3 running a 12 year old operating system. Not like it was my old computer that drew me into Runescape to start with, not like I'd worked around my computer's age a hundred times prior or anything... I had to replace my computer. My new computer fund has $0 in it. I've never spent a penny to buy a computer. Ever. Can't really afford to now, either. So, I start to settle in to the fact that I would simply have to quit Runescape now. Should probably start finding ways to chat with the folks from Canting, if my other computer can't handle the Lobby. I should probably mention that computer, since I'm typing this from it: I have a laptop, with 256MB RAM, a 1066 MHz processor that never runs that fast, and XP stuffed onto the harddrive. Lags with everything I try, can't handle most games, simply doesn't have the memory. But it can run some newer stuff with it's new fangled operating system. On Saturday (the 11'th) we had a power outage. I was away from the computer, but it must've been fine. Restarted on its own. I went on Runescape, argued about my computer (and talked about lots of stuff, Canting Away isn't that bad lol) about whether I should replace the computer, then left for the night. Woke up Sunday morning. My computer was stuck on. Apparently we had an other black out overnight. Mouse won't do anything. Keyboard doesn't do anything. Monitor isn't getting a signal. Numlock is off (it's set to On by default). I try the power button. On light goes from green to yellow, nothing else happens. Try restart; on light goes yellow again, nothing else happens. Hold the power button down for a minute, nothing happens. Few more tries? Nothing. Flick the power bar off and on. Computer doesn't restart itself with the power. I hit the power button. Nothing. Restart, power light goes from blank to yellow. Nothing else. Few more tries? Nope. Deadcomputeritis? Looks like it. :D :P -.- :D Note: We opened it up today, tried fiddling around with it. Got it to turn on again in the same zombie-style it did at first, not responding to anything, not displaying an image, not obeying the off button. Everything else we tried suggests we can't fix it. It's not a disconnected cable. It's not anything set wrong. Some part or another is fried, and we have no compatible computers to swap parts with it, so we can't do any real troubleshooting. Probably just have to salvage the few parts on it that are likely still working (harddrive, CD burner, DVD reader. Could take the floppy drive, but it's shaped for that computer specifically. And we have more floppy drives sitting around in boxes). Guess it's just gone for good. So I've been using the laptop for everything this week. On the bright side? Laptop can handle the RS lobby just fine. So I can still talk in Canting. Downside? Java still crashes whenever I try to login.
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Canting Away Summer Solstice Radio Chat Transripts
Aximili E I posted a blog entry in Bored, Thy Name is Aximili E I
Here are the transcripts from Canting Away Summer Solstice Party Radio show which you can hear by clicking here: *** (01:35:57):Welcome to the Aximili E I Chat Room. Spynripper says to (01:47:41): :) Aximili E I says (01:49:14): hi again! lol rafftank says to (01:51:37): hai Aximili E I says (01:53:55): hey raft =P Spynripper says to (01:54:42): oh, you can call him raft? Aximili E I says (01:54:42): the wait has been killing me all day rafftank says to (01:54:49): AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH rafftank says to (01:54:55): ITS RAFF >:D Aximili E I says (01:55:01): ffar? Spynripper says to (01:55:07): but we have to call him raff Aximili E I says (01:55:18): or is a tank? rafftank says to (01:55:21): hwow about I call axi... rafftank says to (01:55:28): Montypython lover? Aximili E I says (01:55:35): I'll kill you.... =p rafftank says to (01:55:50): but you love monty python so much! rafftank says to (01:56:01): you said its the BEST thing in the world Aximili E I says (01:56:15): you are going to pay for this you here me? rafftank says to (01:57:00): :D rafftank says to (01:57:04): you called me raft rafftank says to (01:57:06): I have the right Aximili E I says (01:57:56): you mean left. rafftank says to (01:58:16): wut Aximili E I says (02:00:48): the show is no live rafftank says to (02:00:58): k Simple013 says to (02:01:33): Hm... apparently Merch blog directs here Simple013 says to (02:01:54): wonder why it took three tries Vaskor says to (02:07:55): Woot rafftank says to (02:08:19): vaskor! rafftank says to (02:08:36): mornin Vaskor says to (02:08:36): Hi ! Simple013 says to (02:08:59): 'Ello Vaskor rafftank says to (02:12:51): i killed axi :) Spynripper says to (02:13:06): you bully! K Karl 5 says to (02:13:40): ohai K Karl 5 says to (02:14:01): finally managed to register :/ Reali-Tee says to (02:14:19): gettin hi surfing the blogchannels rafftank says to (02:15:19): awesome story bro K Karl 5 says to (02:15:45): somebody say mah name? :) Merch Gwyar says to (02:18:39): Aximili, it's free on Skype Merch Gwyar says to (02:18:45): I call from skype normally Merch Gwyar says to (02:18:49): and it's free Vaskor says to (02:19:29): I am in K Karl 5 says to (02:19:53): i could call but i has a blank mind K Karl 5 says to (02:21:03): we got teleported :L K Karl 5 says to (02:21:19): people in dung Spynripper says to (02:21:48): where is the house? Merch Gwyar says to (02:22:35): Yanille w77 Spynripper says to (02:22:46): oh, that's where I live :) rafftank says to (02:25:20): hai axi I keel you :)] rafftank says to (02:25:42): i killed axi K Karl 5 says to (02:25:43): :L K Karl 5 says to (02:25:46): nub raffy Vaskor says to (02:25:46): it was raff rafftank says to (02:25:52): i admitted Vaskor says to (02:25:53): I revenged you rafftank says to (02:26:23): rofl rafftank says to (02:31:21): i didnt send axi to canifis rafftank says to (02:32:23): i sent vaskor to fally though :/ rafftank says to (02:33:49): merch dced and we got kicked out Vaskor says to (02:33:54): rafftank - I have long memory, I won't forget!!! K Karl 5 says to (02:34:06): shes back Spynripper says to (02:34:26): can we get a refund? cossack127 says to (02:37:56): i sent ax and all those others to canifis :P rafftank says to (02:44:05): karl¬ rafftank says to (02:48:55): lies! cossack127 says to (02:49:45): :D rafftank says to (02:50:17): tuss rafftank says to (02:53:37): i got karl!! Vaskor says to (02:54:29): bye! rafftank says to (02:55:04): no axi, i pwn you in rsc rafftank says to (02:55:15): i beat you in both our duels rafftank says to (02:55:33): i got karl again!!! rafftank says to (02:58:28): i got axi in canifis Spynripper says to (02:59:26): byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rafftank says to (02:59:55): baiii Aximili E I says (02:59:55): ill get the transripts up in a moment... -
Canting Away Summer Solstice Radio "report"
Aximili E I posted a blog entry in Bored, Thy Name is Aximili E I
Okay I have been able to check BTR to see if I can do a show during both house partys Unfortunately there is no availablilty at the time of Merch's (at least for me) the early morning house party... oh well at least I can do the later one. So I will have a live in game report live on BTR during Merch's house party at 5pm EST here is the link to the radio show: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/aximili-e-i/2...-solstice-party The show will last an hour(same as merch house party). Feel free to call in and tell us how you thought of the party or of merch house or anything Canting Away Festival related :mad: P.S. is the time correct in relation to daylight savings? Can someone check for me please? -
It is FINALLY time for another BTR Canting Away Gathering! This time Full of Pie and Kayla are in charge. As before I will be the switch board operator I'll try and stay out of the conversation this time a bit better :D ... There are 2 ways to "call in" Skype or a long distance phone call to New York City so unless you have unlimited long distance now would be a good time to get Skype :D You show not need to register at Blog Talk Radio to be able to listen in and call in. I can't remember if you need to register as a Listener to chat in the chat box. I should have the Chat box up and running about 15 mins before the show. Here is the link to the show page: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/aximili-e-i/2...dio-gathering-2 Time May 6th(THUR) @ 12:00 pm Eastern US/4:00PM GMT(I hope I got that conversion right) Calling in # (917) 889-8656 (not free) or "click to talk" via Skype(free) Length : 60 mins Hope I didn't miss anything...
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Hiding And Go Canting Away Winter Festival
Aximili E I posted a blog entry in Bored, Thy Name is Aximili E I
I went to Canting Away's Winter Festival the last two days and here is what I did: When I got home on the 18th I checked the list to see which event was going on and I asked when I logged in to double check and it was the hour of kindness like I had suspected so I decided to play Scrooge: 05.00: P2P: Nezantra will be grabbing his net and going to Puro-Puro. Run around with him catching implings there! (US Central Time: 23:00 (18th); US ES Time: 24:00 (18th)): Got 2 ninja implings, my first 2! Was lagging so I decided to log off for the night.... 16:00: P2P: The Hunt for Aximili E I! Hide and seek organised by Aximili. Will you be the one to find him? Details in Aximili E I's blog. (US Central Time: 10:00 (19th); US ES Time: 11:00 (19th)): I had tons of fun hosting this event to see the results check this out! Skipped the GWD event as I can't do GWD yet... 18:00: P2P Choccy will be leading the charge into Castle Wars! Let's go get a flag! (US Central Time: 12:00 (19th); US ES Time: 13:00 (19th)): There was a lot of people there! Unfortunately my internet couldn't handle the amount of people so I was in very bad lag the whole game so I drop out of the event after the first game... 19:00: F2P: We will attempt to have a simultaneous line of fires stretching from Varrock west gate to Fally north gate. We will meet at Varrock west, where Simple and I will both have supplies of logs and tinderboxes for those who weren't prepared. tongue.gif Each person will have 10 logs and wait 10 spaces ahead of their friend. When everyone is in position, then the shout will go up in Canting and everyone lights ten fires in a row. Hopefully, we'll light up the entire track, down the stairs and across that nice bit of grassland. (US Central Time: 13:00 (19th); US ES Time: 14:00 (19th)): I mange to get help from both an unofficial Runescoop cc and the Even2all Clan cc to help us out. We manged to get the whole line going with the help we got from random people in the world and the 2 I recruited along with using 20 logs instead of 10... all in 1 try! Here are some of the pics I took of the last section...: This was my last Event I could attend I bid everyone farwell... Thanks to Merch for setting the Winter Festival up and to all the hosts of events that I joined in on! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! -
Here are the "winners" of Hunt for Aximili E I! Congrats to you all!
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Hunting For A Most Elusive Game: Aximili E I!
Aximili E I posted a blog entry in Bored, Thy Name is Aximili E I
I'm hosting an event for Canting Away's Winter Festival: Here are the details: 16:00: P2P(world 77): The Hunt for Aximili E I! Hide and seek organized by Aximili. Will you be the one to find him? (US Central Time: 10:00 (19th); US ES Time: 11:00 (19th)) All you need for my event is a seeking ring(either 'seek' or 'both') from Faruq(He's in Al Kharid just to the south of the entrance to the Dueling Arena) and be wearing it. I will hide (with a hide ring) somewhere in Runescape... Come find me and get your picture taken with the "famous" RSC NOOB! The picture will be displayed showing your expert Seekingness here on this blog! I will go to a new location after each time I have been found. Hints will be given if not found in 10 mins or so...GOOD LUCK!