Drugs

[Gravedigg154 0]

What are your thoughts on drugs, their legality, usage, danger, etc.

I know that drugs are a touchy subject for some people so please stay respectful.

 

I love the use of drugs as a recreational pastime.

Laying back and smoking weed with my friends is a lot of fun and considerably less harmful than drinking.

I strongly believe in the legalization of marijuana.

 

And GO!

 

EDIT: I guess I left out other drugs ;)

I believe that use of harder drugs is fine too as long as you make sure it stays in a recreational manner.

Know your limits, and more importantly, know yourself.

If you think your gonna get addicted to cocaine, don't do it.

Edited June 14, 2009 by Gravedigg154

[Twist of Fate 289]

I overdid my limit on weed once. My memory didn't come back in time for me to pass geometry for the year. Hi summer school. However, I don't judge people for doing anything. I know that they're definitely more careful than I am.

It shouldn't exactly be legal, just decriminalized.

Edited June 14, 2009 by Twist of Fate

[Pixel Bunnie 3]

Drugs is a very broad term and it's difficult to debate the dangers and the legalization because it depends entirely on the drug. I've said many times I would support the legalization of marijuana, however, I wouldn't say the same for amphetamines, barbiturates or lysergic acid diethylamide simply because the dangers are a lot greater. Although I would not preach against individual use, making it legal will provide more complications on a larger scale.

[Gravedigg154 0]

I didn't want to do just one drug.

They can debate over whichever one they see fit to talk about.

Please elaborate on these complications?

[Po22 0]

Thizz. I think we should legalize thizz as a three month interval kind of thing. For recreation. Oh btw thizz is ectasy.

[Gravedigg154 0]

I don't know e has alot of crap in it.

Random fillers, amphetamines, DXM, god I don't even wanna know exactly.

But it's so fun. ;)

I don't see that drug ever being legalized.

[jack-nicholson 0]

The Netherlands classification system of "Hard drugs" and "Soft drugs" seems to make a lot of sense to me. Because there are obviously drugs which are a danger to society as a whole, cocaine, opium, amphetamines, etc. But Cannabis's only real threat to society now is the fact that it's distribution is in the control of gangs and drug dealers.

 

Of course any drug can be abused and lead to the destruction of the individual.

[Dreaded 0]

Although I don't smoke of do drugs in any way...

 

I feel the marijuana should be legalized but cigarettes made illegal. Why?

Cigarettes are much more harmful than weed, and they are addictive.

[Samurai Kenji 0]

As long as you don't effect someone elses life with your drug taking theres no problem with it.

 

I feel the marijuana should be legalized but cigarettes made illegal. Why?

Cigarettes are much more harmful than weed, and they are addictive.

 

If we did that then our economy would get thouroughly Ddosed hence why they haven't been made illegal already.

Edited June 14, 2009 by Meidou

[iToast 16]

I believe in the legalisation of marijuana, it's not a lethal drug and is safer than alcohol. However, I do not believe drugs like ecstasy and cocaine should be legalised, as they are much more dangerous.

[Scrum 8]

To be honest if you legalise cannabis, it will be less "cool" so less people will do it ;)

 

At least, that's what I think. I don't judge people unless they're into alot of stupid things (ie. bunking off school, smoking, getting totally pissed every weekend, fights). Class A & Most Class B drugs certainly shouldn't, I don't know many Class C ones.

[Dreaded 0]

I feel the marijuana should be legalized but cigarettes made illegal. Why?

Cigarettes are much more harmful than weed, and they are addictive.

Why in the world should the government have a say in what you do to your body, as long as it doesn't directly hurt others?

 

The government should care about it's people, right?

I understand that the banning of cigarettes will cause the economy to flunk even further, so I really can't argue about that.

 

Like iToast said, even alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana. Anyway, to me, all drugs are harmful.

[Dark Zestal 0]

free country. I don't use drugs, but people will do it anyways, and all they hurt are them selves, so i'm against drunk driving or something similar, but whatever.

[Irish of Lad 0]

Woah last time i checked there were no recorded deaths from e in 2006 (well i think it's 2006 no sure) i didn't think was that bad, and is it me or am I the only one here who hasn't smoked/drunk/taken any kind of drugs ;) lol jk

 

Anyways all drugs are bad, no matter which way you look at it. Think about it was the 1 hour thrill realy worth the hangover and long term effects? and the thrill is the only positive thing about drugs

[Gravedigg154 0]

Woah last time i checked there were no recorded deaths from e in 2006 (well i think it's 2006 no sure) i didn't think was that bad, and is it me or am I the only one here who hasn't smoked/drunk/taken any kind of drugs ;) lol jk

 

Anyways all drugs are bad, no matter which way you look at it. Think about it was the 1 hour thrill realy worth the hangover and long term effects? and the thrill is the only positive thing about drugs

Wow you are terribly uneducated on drugs.

There have been several deaths from e, one just happened in Edmonton (city in Canada) a month ago.

Also almost all drugs last more than one hour.

LSD can last 14 hours, and DOB can last up to 24.

Marijuana doesn't have long term effects other than maybe it being harder to concentrate if you smoke average amounts every day.

And the only "hangover" you get from it is a little tired.

The thrill is also not the only positive things about drugs.

Marijuana relaxes you, and has even been shown to open up bronchiole tubes.

[_life 1]

I really have no stance on the legalization of drugs (excluding the obvious ones which can harm others and be a serious provocative factor to violence, amongst other things), but I do go against the use of it. Of course I do my best to warn others of the dangers and risks that drug-users take, but I really have no place in punishing them or taking it off them. I have no right to stop you from doing the things that you're doing to your body. It's your body and your life that you're putting on the line. All I can do is warn you, nothing more. I only begin to care when such drugs lead you to injuring or effecting other people personally. It's no fair that others have to deal with the consequences of you using drugs.

 

Honestly, I have absolutely no intentions of 'doing drugs' in the future. God gave us life and this holy body to love and worship him, not to chuck it on the death row just for the sake of impressing friends, crushes/loves et cetera.

[Kwinten 24]

Honestly, I have absolutely no intentions of 'doing drugs' in the future. God gave us life and this holy body to love and worship him, not to chuck it on the death row just for the sake of impressing friends, crushes/loves et cetera.

Please don't get religion into every single topic you go to. Holy body? shizzle mate. And God must be such an ego tripper, creating creatures just for the sake of worshipping him.

Edited June 15, 2009 by lilshu

[Gravedigg154 0]

Honestly, I have absolutely no intentions of 'doing drugs' in the future. God gave us life and this holy body to love and worship him, not to chuck it on the death row just for the sake of impressing friends, crushes/loves et cetera.

Please don't get religion into every single topic you go to. Holy body? shizzle mate. And God must be such an ego tripper, creating creatures just for the sake of worshipping him.

This and also you must never ever drink either or ever plan too.

[Sloscin809 0]

I think weed should be legalized for all ages,its perfectly okay.. healthier than cigs IMO. And it would get some of my friends out of court and juvi besides for tagging,and stealing and that stuff.

[Kwinten 24]

I think weed should be legalized for all ages,its perfectly okay.. healthier than cigs IMO. And it would get some of my friends out of court and juvi besides for tagging,and stealing and that stuff.

Yeah, great job, legalize soft drugs for all ages, why not?

[Shade Pure 0]

Drugs should be kept illegal, although marijauna is safer than cigarettes. Cigarettes have over 2,000 IDENTIFIED chemicals and thousands of unidentified chemicals that are a result of the chemicals mixing with the air, which is why second-hand smoke is more lethal.

 

Drugs should be kept illegal, and cigarettes should be too... ;)

[Toungy 0]

Drugs is a very broad term and it's difficult to debate the dangers and the legalization because it depends entirely on the drug. I've said many times I would support the legalization of marijuana, however, I wouldn't say the same for amphetamines, barbiturates or lysergic acid diethylamide simply because the dangers are a lot greater. Although I would not preach against individual use, making it legal will provide more complications on a larger scale.

In my opinion, amphetamines are not drugs to be afraid of, if used carefully and responsibly.

 

Amphetamines are a class of stimulants used medicinally mainly as anti-depressants and medicine for ADHD/ADD. By far the most commonly used amphetamines are methylphenidate (Ritalin/Concerta) and regular (dextro-) amphetamine (medical name Adderall, street name speed). Ritalin is a similar chemical to amphetamine, but its action is much more comparable to that of a low dose of cocaine. They both work in the sympathetic and central nervous system, releasing the natural hormones dopamine ('reward' hormone), serotonin ('love' hormone) and noradrenaline (wide range of effects). Its primary action as a performance booster and ADD suppressor is through increased noradrenaline levels, which in its turn stimulates glucose release in the body and improves endurance and the ability to concentrate. The hormone serotonin promotes motivation and social binding, and dopamine calms the user down, producing a mild euphoria and sense of well-being, which decreases ADHD symptoms.

 

In non-pharmaceutical terms, amphetamines allow the user to work harder, focus for longer periods of time and more easily find the motivation to work without being toxic, addictive or intoxicating to the user. At least, in prescription doses (5-25 mg.) In my opinion, these are 'safe' doses to use occasionally for people who don't have ADHD/ADD. When referring to 'speed' as a drug, much higher doses are usually referred to. The threshold dose for recreational use is about 25-50 mg, which produces drastically different effects from the lower doses. If more than 25 mg of amphetamine is used, there can be a drop in hormone levels that the brain has stored, which causes a hangover and 'dip' after the drug wears off. In these doses, the drug can be toxic to the nervous system and has the risk of causing dependence.

 

So basically, it's relatively safe to use a very small amount of amphetamine/methylphenidate (about as safe as two cups of coffee) when you have ADHD or ADD, but higher doses are very risky and can cause serious mental problems, including addiction, psychoses and heavy cravings that can last for months upon months.

 

Although I don't smoke of do drugs in any way...

 

I feel the marijuana should be legalized but cigarettes made illegal. Why?

Cigarettes are much more harmful than weed, and they are addictive.

I think both should be legal. Cigarettes are a serious health risk but it is up to the person whether or not he/she wants to smoke. The effects are very mild (though also very addictive), and as long as non-smokers don't have to suffer from second-hand smoke, I think it's okay if adults smoke tobacco.

 

Woah last time i checked there were no recorded deaths from e in 2006 (well i think it's 2006 no sure) i didn't think was that bad, and is it me or am I the only one here who hasn't smoked/drunk/taken any kind of drugs ;) lol jk

 

Anyways all drugs are bad, no matter which way you look at it. Think about it was the 1 hour thrill realy worth the hangover and long term effects? and the thrill is the only positive thing about drugs

There have been quite a few deaths from ecstasy use. Ecstasy is one of the least safe drugs to use. Pure MDMA (also known as 'ecstasy') is rare, and the pills are very commonly impure, containing other drugs as well like amphetamine, ketamine (a very addictive opiate), heroin, cocaine, ritalin, DXM, BZP, etc. 'Real' X (pure MDMA) is relatively safe to use but causes a serious down that can last for up to a few weeks.

 

And there are only a few short-acting drugs. They include alcohol (1 hour or more, depending on how much is consumed), cocaine (5 mins - 1 hour), ketamine (half an hour - 1 hours, depending on dose), general solvents (5 mins - 2 hours), poppers (1-5 mins), nicotine (10 mins - 1 hour) and heroin/morphine (1-3 hours). These are also the most dangerous and addictive drugs that are commonly used, legally or illegally. The longer acting drugs like marijuana, LSD, mushrooms, 2C-B, etc. are not considered to be addictive and none of them cause a hangover.

 

I think weed should be legalized for all ages,its perfectly okay.. healthier than cigs IMO. And it would get some of my friends out of court and juvi besides for tagging,and stealing and that stuff.

Yeah, great job, legalize soft drugs for all ages, why not?

Yeah... why not? Please explain to me, in biological terms, why it would be more irresponsible to use marijuana at a young age than to, for example, drink a glass of cola (which contains phosphoric acid, nitric acid, hydrochloric acid, carcinogenic flavors and colors, etc.). Many, many people agree that marijuana is not nearly as dangerous as most people think. It is a very mild, short-acting drug that has, 'till date, not been shown to be toxic in any way, except for some mild throat irritation (which subsides after a few days of not using the drug) and short-memory loss (which also subsides after a few days).

 

Of course, the short term effects include intoxication and more severe memory loss... which is why it should be banned in schools and while driving. But that's up to the user to be responsible. (And I have never, ever met anyone who 'needed' to smoke marijuana. Not even the heaviest users that I know)

 

(Though I do think that it should be illegal for children under 16 years old, as they can't really judge whether or not it would be responsible for them to use the drug.)

Edited June 15, 2009 by Toungy

[Gravedigg154 0]

Woah last time i checked there were no recorded deaths from e in 2006 (well i think it's 2006 no sure) i didn't think was that bad, and is it me or am I the only one here who hasn't smoked/drunk/taken any kind of drugs ;) lol jk

 

Anyways all drugs are bad, no matter which way you look at it. Think about it was the 1 hour thrill realy worth the hangover and long term effects? and the thrill is the only positive thing about drugs

There have been quite a few deaths from ecstasy use. Ecstasy is one of the least safe drugs to use. Pure MDMA (also known as 'ecstasy') is rare, and the pills are very commonly impure, containing other drugs as well like amphetamine, ketamine (a very addictive opiate), heroin, cocaine, ritalin, DXM, BZP, etc. 'Real' X (pure MDMA) is relatively safe to use but causes a serious down that can last for up to a few weeks.

 

And there are only a few short-acting drugs. They include alcohol (1 hour or more, depending on how much is consumed), cocaine (5 mins - 1 hour), ketamine (half an hour - 1 hours, depending on dose), general solvents (5 mins - 2 hours), poppers (1-5 mins), nicotine (10 mins - 1 hour) and heroin/morphine (1-3 hours). These are also the most dangerous and addictive drugs that are commonly used, legally or illegally. The longer acting drugs like marijuana, LSD, mushrooms, 2C-B, etc. are not considered to be addictive and none of them cause a hangover.

I would just like to add some things, first heroin is extremely rare in ecstasy. I did a search of ecstasydata.org for pills containing heroin, and out of 1688 entries, I found one which contained heroin.

And as LSD does not cause a hangover, it can cause schizophrenia, and no one knows the long term effects of the research chems such as 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E, etc.

[Samurai Kenji 0]

And as LSD does not cause a hangover, it can cause schizophrenia, and no one knows the long term effects of the research chems such as 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E, etc.

 

It causes schizophrenia? (No i honestly didn't know that)

 

But as far as i know LSD is one of the safest drugs there is (atleast on a biological scale)

You could actually chug a large jar full of Acid without any physical damage. The only damage that is caused by LSD is when an unfortunate bloke gets whats known as a "bad trip" which could cause nightmarish hallucinations and feelings that cause temporary or permanent Insanity but most average moderate-slightly heavy users will never experience these feelings and therefore the brief joy it brings is well worth the slight negative effects.

And yes i have used it occassionally.

[Gravedigg154 0]

Well it doesn't cause schizophrenia.

That was a bad way to say it.

If you have a history of schizophrenia, it can bring it out at an earlier time, but on the same token, so can marijuana.

Just not as easily.

And you are correct the amount you must take to overdose is astronomical.