"nosey Mom" Vs Paedophiles.

[Gonzyy]

Source : http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-...&ocid=today

'Nosey' mum saved teen from sex attack

'Nosey' mum saved teen from sex attack

© ITN 2009

A teenager who was groomed online by a paedophile has been warning others about hidden internet dangers, after being saved from a sex attack by her "nosey" mother.

Amy was 12 years old when she attracted the attention of Oliver Randall, a 20-year-old Southampton University student who made contact with her through a social networking site.

She sent him her mobile number by accident whilst chatting to a friend on an instant messenger service and he started to send her texts, trying to organise a meeting with her. Her mother found the "lurid messages" and confronted her daughter.

Amy, whose name has been changed to protect her identity, said: "It suddenly got quite scary as he started making sexual references... He asked me if I would send him pictures of myself and I said no. He did very nasty stuff to others. Obviously I am glad it didn't happen to me, but I was lucky because my mum found out what was going on. My nosey mum literally saved me from getting hurt."

Dorset Police said Randall, who is from Bridport in Dorset, was jailed in December 2008 for four years, after admitting 23 charges including engaging a child under 13 in sexual activity, inciting a girl under 13 in sexual activity, grooming children on the internet and making and taking indecent images of children.

Prosecutor Joanna Morrissey said: "If it wasn't for her mother being suspicious and contacting the police, the activities of Randall may never have come to light."

 

Well on one hand its an invasian of personal space to have your mom read your texts but is it a good thing. What are your views? If things like this keep happening more and more parents will read our texts ... I just can't believe she kept his number after he made sexual suggestions she couldve blocked his number

 

Your Views?

Edited September 14, 2009 by Gonza Man

[Scrum]

Well she's obviously a very stupid girl, not because she let it get to that point, but not stopping it there, so she should be babied like that.

 

Ps. Spelling is Nosey Mum vs Paedophiles.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Scrum

[Ice]

She sent him her mobile number by accident

 

Yeh of course.....

 

:|

[Cxkslei]

Pedophiles are just becoming more and more stupid in my opinion. That's a good thing.

[Samurai Kenji]

She sent him her mobile number by accident whilst chatting to a friend on an instant messenger service and he started to send her texts

 

Yeah, all 12 year old girls are going to tell there moms they sent a 20 year old creep there cell phone number. Honestly the age of consent needs to be lowered, if you can bleed you can bleed. My mom was 13 when she had me and my dad was in his mid 20's my mom knew what she was getting into and was mature enough to handle the consequences as would any other 13 year old if western parents stopped babying there children until they turn 20. She has boobs she can bleed its not paedophelia its no worse then having a petite fetish.

[Whitey]

Why was she attracted to a so called "20 year old"?

 

I know this isn't the 1930's anymore but can't young adults (LOL) get someone there own/similar age?

[rsm30]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Zon70

[soxking]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

[Choccy]

Yummy mummy to the rescue!

[Scrum]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

I don't see anything wrong if the girl isn't clever enough to object. She was saved by her Mum. She obviously couldn't get out herself. Which is stupid.

[ZacharyB]

Not that there's anything wrong with your parents reading your texts anyway. If they pay for your phone, they have the right to read your texts.

[rsm30]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

Hey, even Meidou somewhat has a same opinion on this as me, so its not like I'm only saying this cause I'm biased or anything. And yes I find nothing wrong at all about a 20 year old being in a sexual relationship with a 12 year old. Why is it wrong? Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Zon70

[ZacharyB]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

Hey, even Meidou somewhat has a same opinion on this as me, so its not like I'm only saying this cause I'm biased or anything. And yes I find nothing wrong at all about a 20 year old being in a sexual relationship with a 12 year old. Why is it wrong? Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

 

What if the girl is prepubescent? I'm not sure if it's the case here, but I'm just talkin in general.

[soxking]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

Hey, even Meidou somewhat has a same opinion on this as me, so its not like I'm only saying this cause I'm biased or anything. And yes I find nothing wrong at all about a 20 year old being in a sexual relationship with a 12 year old. Why is it wrong? Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

It's not just this, you always seem to be on the side of pro-kid relationships. Why is this wrong? Because kids are easy to convince, especially if you're an adult. Kids have a respect for adults, and look up to them. We shouldn't let adults use this power to take advantage over innocent kids.

[Gonzyy]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

The girl is 12. You don't see anything wrong with a 20 year old, who has had sex with other young kids before, having sex with a 12 year old? Now, I'm going to ask this in all seriousness. Are you a pedophile? Like seriously, are you?

Hey, even Meidou somewhat has a same opinion on this as me, so its not like I'm only saying this cause I'm biased or anything. And yes I find nothing wrong at all about a 20 year old being in a sexual relationship with a 12 year old. Why is it wrong? Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

 

What if the girl is prepubescent? I'm not sure if it's the case here, but I'm just talkin in general.

 

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention. Its just not right. As soxking said children are easy to manipulate, this man obviously has a thing for children in particular and it's not right that he grooms them over the internet for sex and then takes pictures of them... but its different opinions i guess

[Rene]

Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

 

Because we no longer live in the dark ages.

 

Life expectancy is no longer 30-35 years old but easily 75-80+ if you're lucky enough to live in a good European country. As thus society has adapted and people are no longer forced to fly through life. Kids are allowed to be kids and although one could argue that there are those whom are mature enough to take on the responsibility there is no longer the pressure and several kids just aren't prepared to take on the responsibility of raising a kid or have the access to the means that it would require and having a kid is a risk and responsiblity that comes with sex. One might argue that abortion is always an option but this might not be because of the parents opinion or a girl her own ethical beliefs.

[William Howard Taft]

Besides finding it "disgusting" because of the age difference, how is it bad? That seems to be the thing no one can answer.

 

Because we no longer live in the dark ages.

 

Life expectancy is no longer 30-35 years old but easily 75-80+ if you're lucky enough to live in a good European country. As thus society has adapted and people are no longer forced to fly through life. Kids are allowed to be kids and although one could argue that there are those whom are mature enough to take on the responsibility there is no longer the pressure and several kids just aren't prepared to take on the responsibility of raising a kid or have the access to the means that it would require and having a kid is a risk and responsiblity that comes with sex. One might argue that abortion is always an option but this might not be because of the parents opinion or a girl her own ethical beliefs.

Or the safety of the mother. Abortion is not only a problem for the embryo/child/whatever you want to call it, but also on the mother. I'm not convinced that a twelve year old child would handle an abortion well. Just pointing out.

 

I think that, on the whole, this is a reason to not let your kids know about the internet until they're of a good age...this and those "u fudgein n00b" kids on FPS games.

[Samurai Kenji]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

Which is a fault of the educational system just because we don't have to rush through life anymore doesn't mean we have to baby our teenagers. When a girl starts bleeding out her peehole it means that nature says she's good to go. She can say no if she wants and i'll respect that but I hold natures standards high above societies you might find that sick but i find you sick for conforming to what a bunch of grouchy old men say is good and bad. Personally i wouldn't be interested in a 12 year old simply because they tend to be whiny, irritating and superficial but if i were a little hornier, it was legal and the girl asked, yes i'de go for it. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents unless the girl is a really late bloomer then she's pubescent and if you think that pubescent sexual relations are "disgusting" and wrong then you'd better all go out and buy your purity rings.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[Scrum]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

Which is a fault of the educational system just because we don't have to rush through life anymore doesn't mean we have to baby our teenagers. When a girl starts bleeding out her peehole it means that nature says she's good to go. She can say no if she wants and i'll respect that but I hold natures standards high above societies you might find that sick but i find you sick for conforming to what a bunch of grouchy old men say is good and bad. Personally i wouldn't be interested in a 12 year old simply because they tend to be whiny irritating and superficial but if i were a little hornier, it was legal and the girl asked yes i'de go for it pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents unless the girl is a really late bloomer then she's pubescent and if you think that pubescent sexual relations are "disgusting" and wrong then you'd better all go out and buy your purity rings.

Plus one Meidou @@@

 

That's what I wanted to say but I didn't know how to word it and I'm not clever enough either

[Gonzyy]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

Which is a fault of the educational system just because we don't have to rush through life anymore doesn't mean we have to baby our teenagers. When a girl starts bleeding out her peehole it means that nature says she's good to go. She can say no if she wants and i'll respect that but I hold natures standards high above societies you might find that sick but i find you sick for conforming to what a bunch of grouchy old men say is good and bad. Personally i wouldn't be interested in a 12 year old simply because they tend to be whiny, irritating and superficial but if i were a little hornier, it was legal and the girl asked, yes i'de go for it. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents unless the girl is a really late bloomer then she's pubescent and if you think that pubescent sexual relations are "disgusting" and wrong then you'd better all go out and buy your purity rings.

 

But not many of the stories concerned with pedophilia show people who respect what the underage girl wants...

[Choccy]

I'm sure at 12 it's a bit too young, in my opinion at-least. And like someone pointed out, young girls aren't mature or responsible enough to make rational decisions or withstand pressure from older men. I also think that a young girl who faces something like pregnancy will struggle, they are too young to go through that. While I don't want to tell people what they should and shouldn't do, I think that the parents should have some say till they are at-least 16. I know a girl who lost her virginity at a very young (11), and she's been sexually active with multiple people since, but I know she's too young to understand the risks she's letting herself into

[Rene]

Which is a fault of the educational system just because we don't have to rush through life anymore doesn't mean we have to baby our teenagers. When a girl starts bleeding out her peehole it means that nature says she's good to go. She can say no if she wants and i'll respect that but I hold natures standards high above societies you might find that sick but i find you sick for conforming to what a bunch of grouchy old men say is good and bad. Personally i wouldn't be interested in a 12 year old simply because they tend to be whiny, irritating and superficial but if i were a little hornier, it was legal and the girl asked, yes i'de go for it. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents unless the girl is a really late bloomer then she's pubescent and if you think that pubescent sexual relations are "disgusting" and wrong then you'd better all go out and buy your purity rings.

 

This still does not change the fact that she most likely does not have the mental maturity to consciously decide about sex and consider the possible consequences it might have. (Although being perfectly honest, I doubt that changes much when you would ask a 16 year old guy)

 

Preconception is not fail proof. Actually a Clan Leader of a Runescape Clan I was once in got his girlfriend pregnant because of a teared condom (although both were in university at the time) and the girl was raised heavily catholic and refused an abortion whereas he didn't want to have to give up on his studies to raise a baby but he also didn't want to just abandon his girlfriend. In the end it ended up with his girlfriend doing an abortion after all through much arguments and they ended up with a shattered relationship.

 

Fact is sex isn't just all fun but also has serious consequences. Although the chance of preconception not being effective is small a person still needs to be aware of the consequences that come with it.

 

Also young boys who weren't properly educated on the usage of condoms yet (ages 13~) would also have a heightened risk of a teared condom or having sex withtout one at all as well.

[Samurai Kenji]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

Which is a fault of the educational system just because we don't have to rush through life anymore doesn't mean we have to baby our teenagers. When a girl starts bleeding out her peehole it means that nature says she's good to go. She can say no if she wants and i'll respect that but I hold natures standards high above societies you might find that sick but i find you sick for conforming to what a bunch of grouchy old men say is good and bad. Personally i wouldn't be interested in a 12 year old simply because they tend to be whiny, irritating and superficial but if i were a little hornier, it was legal and the girl asked, yes i'de go for it. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents unless the girl is a really late bloomer then she's pubescent and if you think that pubescent sexual relations are "disgusting" and wrong then you'd better all go out and buy your purity rings.

 

But not many of the stories concerned with pedophilia show people who respect what the underage girl wants...

AKA Rape which i deem just as terrible a crime whether its a 50 year old man raping a 6 year old girl or a

20 year old girl raping a 30 year old man (it happens occasionally).

 

I also think that a young girl who faces something like pregnancy will struggle, they are too young to go through that

 

My Mom was 13 when she had me my grandma was somewhere in the 14-15 range as was my grandma, great grandma and great great grandma all of them and myself were fathered by men almost twice there age but we all turned out fine. Once you've hit puberty maturity is a matter of conditioning parents need to realise that there kids aren't kids anymore and they need to start learning to be adults pretty damn soon.

 

 

Preconception is not fail proof. Actually a Clan Leader of a Runescape Clan I was once in got his girlfriend pregnant because of a teared condom (although both were in university at the time) and the girl was raised heavily catholic and refused an abortion whereas

 

pfft if she was a real catholic she wouldn't be wearing a condom anyways. I agree sex can have serious consequences but in reality a 12 year old isn't much less capable then a 16 year old girl and we all know that most people are getting laid somewhere around there (infact i think the average was 13 years old last time i checked).

 

EDIT: Lol i thought that clan leader you were talking about was Stu' but i forgot he's like 14 or 15 isn't he

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[Gonzyy]

AKA Rape which i deem just as terrible a crime whether its a 50 year old man raping a 6 year old girl or a

20 year old girl raping a 30 year old man (it happens occasionally).

 

But in this case the girl made it clear that she didnt want to advance sexually but the man continued.

[Rene]

My Mom was 13 when she had me my grandma was somewhere in the 14-15 range as was my grandma, great grandma and great great grandma all of them and myself were fathered by men almost twice there age but we all turned out fine. Once you've hit puberty maturity is a matter of conditioning parents need to realise that there kids aren't kids anymore and they need to start learning to be adults pretty damn soon.

 

That is because in Japan (I asume?) you have different standards.

 

Kids don't need to learn to be adults damn soon as soon as they show signs that they can reproduce. Why do you want to force people to be mature at such a young age when through hard work and evolution we have reached a time where we can finally allow people to live their lives a bit slower and have some fun in them. This is what childhood is all about and through having fun kids can also slowly develop into mature adults by making mistakes.

 

We live in a diferent world now and it took hard work to get here. Primitive throughts like the fact that women should be ready to reproduce as soon as they can are no longer standard here.