"nosey Mom" Vs Paedophiles.

[F2P Nate]

"He did very nasty stuff to others. Obviously I am glad it didn't happen to me", what are you talking about.

 

Very nasty as in have sexual relations with them? Just because he did it many times doesn't mean its any more or less wrong then this time.

Those kids haven't risen to the occasion to share their stories though have they, little do you know.

[Samurai Kenji]

Those kids haven't risen to the occasion to share their stories though have they, little do you know.

 

Exactly so you can't assume that he's tied them up played doctor on them and raped them like you seem to be doing.

 

Also have you thought about taking up my challenge?

[John Adams]

In their defense, a couple of hundred years ago having sex and conceiving children at the age of 12-14 wasn't uncommon. They're not argueing it should be allowed for these children to be intimidated into having sex but that if she agrees to it that it should be perfectly fine.

 

"In their defense"? What you have left out is that those children had no choice in the matter. They were first forced into the marriage, and then forced to have children.

 

"Agrees to", I would think you would be hard-pressed to find a 12 yearold to simply "agrees" to have sex with a 20 yearold. Now, one that is "pressed into", or 'bribed into", or "made to do so", that is a different story.

 

And if what your last line said was true, that is exactly what I am argueing against. It is not "fine", it is not "right". What it is is "sick", and "wrong".

 

Well thats the kind of bad thinking that gets many innocent people thrown into jail.

 

"Innocent"? "Innocent"? You are not joking are you?

 

The "innocent" people of whom you speak are not innocent. Not in the slightest. What they are, are sick twisted people who should have be jailed.

 

Most kids who are middle class or upper class likely won't ever be raped or have an adult attempt to have sex with them. This whole "stranger danger on the internet" is way too overblown and as I have said before, and I think it needs repeating, it is a modern day witchunt, looking for something thats not there, and in this case the witch is the so called "sexual predator on the internet".

 

"So called"? "So called"? It is real. However, not every person who goes online is a "sexual predator". Not even close.

 

And being 12 isn't some kind of "innocent thing" like everyone keeps bringing up, if anything kids are maturing faster now a days cause they can look up porn on the internet, and are able to be more knowledgable about sex and their feelings and what not about it at a younger age.

 

Yes, it is an "innocent thing". They are not grown up people, they are children. Children without alot of experience, who may not realize what is happening until to late and something horrible has already happened.

 

As I said before, we are no longer in the Middle Ages, where we sell off our children at a young age to be forced into having children until they die.

 

THIS IS NOT PEDOPHILIA!

 

Yes, it is.

 

She's bleeding and as i've said is no less secually and developementally capable then the average 16 or 17 year old who we as society have no real problems with letting run off with a 50 year old man.

 

There, you are wrong. Just as a child of one or two lacks as advanced of a brain as a child of 12 or 13. The child of 12 or 13 lacks as advanced a brain as a child of 16 or 17. They lack the knowledge, as well as other things.

 

Actually, as a society (atleast in the United States), the majority of us do have problems with such things.

 

In my eyes him wanting to have a secual relation with her is no worse then him wanting a sexual relation with a more petite 16 year old it's just a matter of how society chooses to better inform the 16 year old because some old man picked a number out of a hat and said that people over that age can do more then people below it.

 

"That number", defines a time in the growth of a human.

 

By your logic, it would be okay for a grown man of 20, to have sex with a child of five, if said child has the ability to produce children? After all, "wanting to have a [sexual] relation with her is no worse then him wanting a sexual relation with a more petite 16 year old it's just a matter of how society chooses to better inform the 16 year old." I say no. It is not right, in either case (the two year old, or the 12 year old, or even the 16 year old).

 

Let us take your word as fact for a moment, and let us say that knowledge is not given to a child until they turn 16. That does not change that the 12 year old still lacks the knowledge. And furthermore, as a universal fact, children make mistakes. Those mistakes should not have to scar the child for their life, simply because no adult stepped in and said "No, it is wrong for an adult to take advantage of a child, and have sex with that child." We as a society have a duty to our children, and to keep them from making such mistakes. They should not be forced to make horrible mistakes on their own, in order to learn from them. That is not to say we should keep our children from making mistakes, they should be allowed to. However, having sex with an adult is not one of those that should be allowed.

 

All you Anti-pedo's in this topic are acting like he's this fat creepy psychotic 40 year old. Tell me would this be a big deal if the male was 16? having been both 16 and 20 i can honestly say i'm not all that different. When your going through (or just getting over) puberty numbers and quantitative figures don't really make much of a difference.

 

Note the age difference has shrunk from 7, to 4. It is safe to assume the knowledge of the 16 yearold is greater then the 12 yearold. Legally, if the 16 yearold agrees to it, the law can not object.

 

Also, I never said he was a "fact creepy 40 year old." He is, however, sick, and creepy.

 

Yes, they make a huge difference. Or are you for a 60 yearold having sex with a five yearold, or a sex yearold, or a seven yearold, if they agree to it?

 

I for one am not. I am 100% against adults having sex with a minor more then four years younger then them (and I am only for the four year gap, if the minor agrees to it, otherwise it is, by definition, rape).

 

As for your preference of the law over nature, i can do nothing but respect your opinion theres no way to debate your preference you have your opinion i have mine. I see nothing wrong with this the only difference i see between 20 and 12 is one different digit and a different numerical order i see her as a woman by physical standards you obviously don't agree.

 

No, I do not agree, because mentally, the average 12 yearold is not a woman.

 

Meidou, just because she's menstruating doesn't mean her frontal lobe has developed enough to make fully rational decisions. They are physiologically/cognitively less mature than people older than them. They probably still think as a child. It's not until later teenaged years that the cognitive rationality associated with being mature is developed.

 

You posted what I was going to say.

 

No, but it at least introduces them to the idea of sex which by what many people in this topic are making it out as if 12 year olds have no idea what their opposite sex's sexual organs are and maybe finding out what some of their fetishes are etc....

I'm not saying it right or wrong, its just that that is what the facts are.

 

You realize that there are such things as "Sex-ed classes"? Not everyone learns from porn...

 

"What the facts are"? The facts are the man is a horrible, sick person, and I am glad he went to jail for it.

 

~John

Edited September 14, 2009 by John Adams

[Samurai Kenji]

No, it is wrong for an adult to take advantage of a child, and have sex with that child." We as a society have a duty to our children, and to keep them from making such mistakes.

 

Except what authority do you have to judge it as a mistake? I'll invite you to take up my challenge aswell.

 

my mother was 13 when she gave birth to me and my dad was in his mid to late 20's i CHALLENGE AND DARE YOU to explain why she and her mother and her mother and her mother were all capable of having a succussful relationship with these "Hunters" and now live pretty fufilling lives without any real complaints about there childhood and why this girl can't.

 

My mother was brought up in a very American culture and had a child with a very American man. He may or may not have just been interested in getting some fresh good kitty! or he may have legitimately loved and cared for my mom none the less he eventually left her and she was forced to care for yours truly all by herself she was left a single mom to a "Pedophile" but within a couple years she got over it moved to the states got a university degree and is now living happily and even ocassionally meets with that pedophilic monster to have a cup of coffee with him when she visits Los Angeles. Why are these 2 so different? infact the Man in this article is a bit younger then my dad is and is certainly much less mentally developed and my mom was no further ahead developmentally then any other girl her age. Yes 8 times out of 10 things go bad but that means 2 times out of 10 they go right it's a gamble and so long as they know the odds and have some guidance i feel a girl of 12 years of age has the right to decide whether she wants to have a sexual relationship with this man.

 

Yes, it is.

 

No, it's not.

 

 

pedophilia /pe·do·phil·ia/ (-fil´e-ah) a paraphilia in which an adult has recurrent, intense sexual urges or sexually arousing fantasies of engaging or repeatedly engages in sexual activity with a prepubertal child.pedophil´ic

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[F2P Nate]

Those kids haven't risen to the occasion to share their stories though have they, little do you know.

 

Exactly so you can't assume that he's tied them up played doctor on them and raped them like you seem to be doing.

 

Also have you thought about taking up my challenge?

Wouldn't you like to know. As much as you think i would love to sink my teeth into your family's sordid past, it's a public forum, i choose not to but believe me what a field day i would have with it.

 

In addition, i never said anything of the sort, everything i say comes from what has been put forward as fact in this post. Yours well....i don't know what justifies your actions or puts you to sleep at night, but whatever it is I'm sure as hell glad it's not in my neighborhood.

 

I care about the kids, not your personal life, get your head out of the clouds.

 

I remember when i was visiting my mother watching the news a few months back, she turned around to me and said "this world is getting sicker by the day", she wasn't too far off the truth.

Edited September 14, 2009 by TheBlackSuperman

[Samurai Kenji]

As much as you think i would love to sink my teeth into your family's sordid past, it's a public forum, i choose not to.

 

I care about the kids, not your personal life, get your head out of the clouds.

 

My mom was a kid though i'm using my own family as an example since i don't feel like researching someone elses family up. But if it really makes you feel better.

 

Jennifer was 13 when she gave birth to meadow and james was in his mid to late 20's i CHALLENGE AND DARE YOU to explain why she and her mother and her mother and her mother were all capable of having a succussful relationship with these "Hunters" and now live pretty fufilling lives without any real complaints about there childhood and why this girl can't.

 

Jennifer was brought up in a very American culture and had a child with a very American man. He may or may not have just been interested in getting some fresh good kitty! or he may have legitimately loved and cared for Jennifer none the less he eventually left her and she was forced to care for Meadow all by herself she was left a single mom to a "Pedophile" but within a couple years she got over it moved to the states got a university degree and is now living happily and even ocassionally meets with that pedophilic monster to have a cup of coffee with him when she visits Los Angeles. Why are these 2 so different? infact the Man in this article is a bit younger then James is and is certainly much less mentally developed and Jennifer was no further ahead developmentally then any other girl her age. Yes 8 times out of 10 things go bad but that means 2 times out of 10 they go right it's a gamble and so long as they know the odds and have some guidance i feel a girl of 12 years of age has the right to decide whether she wants to have a sexual relationship with this man.

 

Better? Sorry i'll admit i do have a bad habit of sharing more of my personal life then others probably want me to. I'm well aware of that and try to avoid it but when i get into a heated debate like this i tend to forget. I'm suprised that your the first person to ever mention it to be completely honest.

 

 

In addition, i never said anything of the sort, everything i say comes from what has been put forward as fact in this post. Yours well....i don't know what justifies your actions or puts you to sleep at night, but whatever it is I'm sure as hell glad it's not in my neighborhood.

 

No you didn't but you implied something of the same principle purhaps not even close to the same severity but thats what it sounded like to me.

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[F2P Nate]

My mom was a kid though i'm using my own family as an example since i don't feel like researching someone elses family up. But if it really makes you feel better.

Surprisingly enough, it actually makes me feel worse.

 

This is the world we live in.

[Samurai Kenji]

Surprisingly enough, it actually makes me feel worse.

 

This is the world we live in.

 

Why because not everyone chooses to live by everything a bunch of old men decide is right and wrong? If someone is happy with there life what kind of sicko would tell them that they feel sorry for them because they did something a little different from your ignorant American societal norms and laws.

 

EDIT: Oh wait your not American are you?

 

Substitute American with Zealandia since i'm directing that post at more people then just you

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[F2P Nate]

Surprisingly enough, it actually makes me feel worse.

 

This is the world we live in.

 

Why because not everyone chooses to live by everything a bunch of old men decide is right and wrong? If someone is happy with there life what kind of sicko would tell them that you feel sorry for them because they did something a little different from your ignorant American societal norms and laws.

I don't know how you managed to conjure the "bright side" out of that article, long story short, he took advantage of her, she had a kid, he had enough then ditched her most likely moving on to greener pastures, she grew up hardened her skin and made the best out of a bad situation, forgave him and that's about the jist of it.

 

The only real fact worth noting is he still took advantage of a kid, end of story, the only turning point is forgiveness, still means what he did was wrong.

 

In addition, New Zealand actually, possibly the most safest country on earth. I wonder why.

Edited September 14, 2009 by TheBlackSuperman

[Samurai Kenji]

I don't know how you managed to conjure the "bright side" out of that article, long story short, he took advantage of her, she had a kid, he had enough then ditched her most likely moving on to greener pastures, she grew up hardened her skin and made the best out of a bad situation, forgave him and that's about the jist of it.

 

I guess theres not a "bright side" to the situation however it turned out no worse then any other guy ditches baby momma story its unfortunate but nothing sick or wrong occured and she was never scarred by the fact that she had sex with an older man. Also why do you assume he took advantage of her it's not often but as i think i forgot to mention he did indeed for a while legitimately love and care for her without any unnatural sexual urges they had sex after having atleast a bit of a normal relationship. Whos to say this 20 year old was going straight for the sex yes he probably was but that doesn't mean the next 20 year old to like a 12 year old girl is going to be the same. I'm not denying that the man in the article was quite possibly a creep if i knew him i certainly wouldn't want anything to do with him but i still stand by my opinion that a 12 year old and a 20 year old wanting to have a relationship isn't that terrible and isn't pedophilia and therefore shouldn't really be a crime (or atleast not a severe one)

Edited September 14, 2009 by Meidou

[F2P Nate]

I don't know how you managed to conjure the "bright side" out of that article, long story short, he took advantage of her, she had a kid, he had enough then ditched her most likely moving on to greener pastures, she grew up hardened her skin and made the best out of a bad situation, forgave him and that's about the jist of it.

 

I guess theres not a "bright side" to the situation however it turned out no worse then any other guy ditches baby momma story its unfortunate but nothing sick or wrong occured and she was never scarred by the fact that she had sex with an older man. Also why do you assume he took advantage of her it's not often but as i think i forgot to mention he did indeed for a while legitimately love and care for her without any unnatural sexual urges they had sex after having atleast a bit of a normal relationship. Whos to say this 20 year old was going straight for the sex yes he probably was but that doesn't mean the next 20 year old to like a 12 year old girl is going to be the same. I'm not denying that the man in the article was quite possibly a creep if i knew him i certainly wouldn't want anything to do with him but i still stand by my opinion that a 12 year old and a 20 year old wanting to have a relationship isn't that terrible and isn't pedophilia and therefore shouldn't really be a crime (or atleast not a severe one)

Be honest, do you think he had no sexual urges? He's a man now lets be honest if he's close enough to be in a relationship with her then there was definitely sexual urges involved. The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds, that means while he was with her, this person he's "apparently" attracted to and has formed a close and "loving" relationship with and he is spending considerable amounts of time with, he's thinking sexual thoughts at least 8 times a minute, that's about 480 sexy thoughts an hour, and 11520 sexual thought's a day and you're telling me out of those 11520 sexual thought's hes not having any sexual urges about this kid? well hmm and hmm i say that is a god damned miracle son, he is either brain dead or we have a one of a kind man on this earth, put him in the Guinness book of world records. Maybe there was no sexual advances on his part, but the possibility of the thought was definitely wracking his brain.

 

Maybe not every single situation turns out exactly the same but the risk factor is still considerably high and outweighs this "love factor" you keep trying to push forward, it just simply is not proof enough against any statistic that it is indeed a safe cause, and that's not to say it doesn't happen because I'm sure it does and is possible, just highly, highly unlikely or without some kind of well.....deeper intent. As for you thinking it shouldn't be a crime well, that's your conclusion i suppose, It's like saying you could aim a gun at a man and fire it 10 times, 8 out of 10 of the shots fired you just may hit him and render him dead, but out of those same 10 shots there's a chance that 2 shots just may miss him and he could live, so just because there is that small chance, firing guns at people shouldn't be a crime......no.

 

Also I stand by mine that a 12 year old isn't old enough to maturely make a stand alone decision without being influenced in some way. You're going to have kids one day my friend, and i hope for their sake you make the right decision.

 

We're going in circles now and neither of us are growing any closer to convincing each other regardless. Good debate, and i think it's time for us to free up the discussion to the rest of the forum, it's golfing time anyway baby.

[Samurai Kenji]

Also I stand by mine that a 12 year old isn't old enough to maturely make a stand alone decision without being influenced in some way. You're going to have kids one day my friend, and i hope for their sake you make the right decision.

 

No probably not they don't sound fun and i'm not really into long relationships but thats not really important.

 

We're going in circles now and neither of us are growing any closer to convincing each other regardless. Good debate, and i think it's time for us to free up the discussion to the rest of the forum, it's golfing time anyway baby.

 

I agree if anyone brings up anything new and exciting i'll be glad to reply but i'm out of this to my hands are sore and my post count is higher i'm satisfied.

 

Have fun golfing. (isn't it like 9 am in NZ though?)

Edited September 15, 2009 by Meidou

[soxking]

Parents on your streets should be fearful.

Well thats the kind of bad thinking that gets many innocent people thrown into jail. Most kids who are middle class or upper class likely won't ever be raped or have an adult attempt to have sex with them. This whole "stranger danger on the internet" is way too overblown and as I have said before, and I think it needs repeating, it is a modern day witchunt, looking for something thats not there, and in this case the witch is the so called "sexual predator on the internet".

And being 12 isn't some kind of "innocent thing" like everyone keeps bringing up, if anything kids are maturing faster now a days cause they can look up porn on the internet, and are able to be more knowledgable about sex and their feelings and what not about it at a younger age.

But they're not growing up faster! They just think they are. My little brother (who is twelve) thinks he has everything figured out. He thinks he knows what's cool, what isn't, what's appropriate, who is friends really are, and many other things. The point is, he doesn't. He could be talked into doing almost anything if he thought it would make him 'cool.' That's the same for many kids I know.

 

A lot of you seem to think that once we're old enough to make babies, we should screw until our heart's content. We're aren't animals though. We don't have sex with just the intention of making babies. There's a whole emotional side to relationships that, despite what many of you seem to think, exists. It's not all about "so I stick it in your vag, right?" A lot of kids think they are ready for sex, but never anticipate what comes with it.

[Michael Jackson]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds. Anyways, my parents read my texts (and my msn conversations, and facebook chat, you name it (I'm a 14 year old male)) Now like many debates, I think this comes down to stupidity. Ok, there are cases where people with learning disabilities or much below average IQs get take advantage of and I think that's disgusting, but in this case as far as we know, this was a regular 12 year old girl. As a regular 12 year old girl I would think that some alarms would start ringing in your head if a strange man started contacting you via, text asking to meet up, making sexual remarks. In my old school (elementary) grades 6 through to 8 (11,12,13 year olds around) we have a VIP program I'm not sure what it stands for (no, its not very important person) but basically a police officer comes in and talks about problems in the real world, outside of school. Drugs, sex, (and rock and roll lol.) sexual predators, harrassement and abuse and the list goes on. Most of what we talk about is total crap about bullying however the school board is trying to educate the kids in these topics. Ok, the "nosey" mom in this scenario seems like a hero, saving your daughter from a sexual predator would make every parent proud but, with a few serious discussions and a tight parent-child bond chances are she would not have almost fallen prey to the pedophile. Now since I'm 14 I have a lot of personal experience with the whole nosey parent situation so let me clear it up for some f you. chances are what happend was the child and and parent/parents got in an argument, the child stopped talking to the parents or giving attitude or a variety of other ways you can "get back" at your parents. The parents wanted to know what was going on in their child's life so they started reading their texts, msn conversations whatever. The child gets contacted by a sexual predator except a) they are still mad at their parents so they just choose to continue the silent treatment, b) they feel they can no longer share these things with their parents because the parent's might get even more angry, or c)they are just plain stupid.

Now onto the pedophile, I can understand that some men may have urges tosexual relations with young children, and in my opinion it may be illegal but with consent from both parties it isn't THAT bad, as long as no one is being taken advantage of. Who knows maybe this peophile wanted to take this child out to a romantic dinner, do all the right things except with a younger child and is that really so wrong? (this is hypothetical 99% chance this wasn't going to happen) Needless to say taking a child and raping them, or worse is disgusting by most anyone's defintion of the word, so I'm not going to touch on that topic. My opinion is this entire situation could've been easily avoided with a stronger parent/child relationship.

[William Howard Taft]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds.

It doesn't matter. That "fact" is bullshizzle. Lemme show you.

 

 

Think about sex in six seconds.

 

It won't happen, unless you have an...overweight person fetish.

Edited September 15, 2009 by Demon Jelly

[Adam?]

I don't see why this has to be an issue, that mom is just overprotective, kids are kids sometimes they choose to have sex with people older than them, so theres nothing wrong with this and now England is sending an innocent man to jail for 4 years just because he wanted to be in a sexual relationship.

No. There aren't two sides to this when one argument is completely laughable. The girl was 12 and not old enough to make any decisions regarding sex with someone twice her age.

[soxking]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds.

It doesn't matter. That "fact" is bullshizzle. Lemme show you.

 

 

Think about sex in six seconds.

 

It won't happen, unless you have an...overweight person fetish.

It's called average for a reason. That's like saying "oh my average speed on the way to work today was 60mph" and then someone saying "nope! I bet you drove 30 at least once!"

[Kahlan Amnell]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

You learn that at Fifth grade , at other schools, even at 4th.

 

All of that, mind you. Unless you have a bad educational system.

 

On topic: Wow... Whatever. That kid is um... I don't know. That 20 year old is an idiot. But for the 20 year old to be that attracted, the kid must have lied and pretended that she was older.

[Egghebrecht]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds.

It doesn't matter. That "fact" is bullshizzle. Lemme show you.

 

 

Think about sex in six seconds.

 

It won't happen, unless you have an...overweight person fetish.

It's called average for a reason. That's like saying "oh my average speed on the way to work today was 60mph" and then someone saying "nope! I bet you drove 30 at least once!"

the word you weer looking for was "stereotyping" or "cameldung" not "avarage"

[Cattius]

+ at 12 (if shes in year 7 at school) shes only just started learning about puberty and how her bodies changing. It wont be 1 or 2 years later till she'd properly learn about the full extent of sex and relationships. Involving contraceptives and pregnancy prevention.

 

You learn that at Fifth grade , at other schools, even at 4th.

 

All of that, mind you. Unless you have a bad educational system.

 

On topic: Wow... Whatever. That kid is um... I don't know. That 20 year old is an idiot. But for the 20 year old to be that attracted, the kid must have lied and pretended that she was older.

At the schools I've been to, they start teaching us about puberty and sex from a SCIENTIFIC point of view in year 6 (your grade 5), but they don't start teaching about it in terms of an actual relationship until year 8 (grade 7). I didn't even know what sex was until we started those lessons, and I didn't want to know about it. I certainly wasn't emotionally mature enough at 11, 12 for sex, I don't think I am now (I understand not everyone's like this, I'm just trying to back up Gonza's point). The year 6 lessons were compulsory but the year 8 ones weren't, and I requested to be withdrawn from them. Fitting condoms onto a plastic model isn't exactly my idea of a great lesson

 

I don't think not having sex education until after year 6 makes an education system bad at all. I hated those lessons, most of my friends did too. We were not ready for those lessons :/

[Scrum]

Fitting condoms onto a plastic model isn't exactly my idea of a great lesson

I enjoyed that lesson

 

But seriously, at the age when you're in Year 8 it should be compulsory to learn about sex etc, because no matter what, people are exposed to it and people may even be having it. It'll come back to bite you later if you don't do it.

[Cattius]

Fitting condoms onto a plastic model isn't exactly my idea of a great lesson

I enjoyed that lesson

 

But seriously, at the age when you're in Year 8 it should be compulsory to learn about sex etc, because no matter what, people are exposed to it and people may even be having it. It'll come back to bite you later if you don't do it.

It hasn't hurt me so far :/

 

No I just think it's stupid, I have no intention of having sex for a long time yet so I don't see why I should have to learn about it. There's compulsory sex education in year 10 so I'll just learn about it then.

 

Anyway, my point was you cannot say 'oh they're 12 they're ready for sex'. Some 12-year-olds might be, but others won't.

[Scrum]

Fitting condoms onto a plastic model isn't exactly my idea of a great lesson

I enjoyed that lesson

 

But seriously, at the age when you're in Year 8 it should be compulsory to learn about sex etc, because no matter what, people are exposed to it and people may even be having it. It'll come back to bite you later if you don't do it.

It hasn't hurt me so far :/

 

No I just think it's stupid, I have no intention of having sex for a long time yet so I don't see why I should have to learn about it. There's compulsory sex education in year 10 so I'll just learn about it then.

 

Anyway, my point was you cannot say 'oh they're 12 they're ready for sex'. Some 12-year-olds might be, but others won't.

Yeah, but it'll benefit everyone if you teach them at 12 because you'll be like "Oh, I remember putting on a condom 6 years ago, on this plastic vienerschnitzle"

 

Then the guy behind the counter will say "that'll be £12.99 for all those biscuits"

 

My point was it's better to know it at an age where some people will be doing that, because it prepare you for if you do it 2, 4, 10, or 90s years later, and anything in between.

[William Howard Taft]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds.

It doesn't matter. That "fact" is bullshizzle. Lemme show you.

 

http://leatherhead.files.wordpress.com/200...ip-image001.jpg

 

Think about sex in six seconds.

 

It won't happen, unless you have an...overweight person fetish.

It's called average for a reason. That's like saying "oh my average speed on the way to work today was 60mph" and then someone saying "nope! I bet you drove 30 at least once!"

No, it said "the average male", not "on average, a male thinks about sex every six seconds". It's stated as average guys think about sex every six seconds. The syllogism would work like so:

 

IF X is an average male,

THEN he thinks about sex every six seconds.

 

Which is not true. Nobody thinks about sex every six seconds, except for erotomaniacs. Thus, the syllogism presented in the "factoid" is invalid.

 

That said, I think about sex maybe four or five times a day, that I'm consciously aware of. Because I am better at controlling subconscious behaviors (being a human and all that shizzle), I don't randomly jump on attractive females and start going at it. Therefore, given both the syllogism and my own personal experience, I'd say the "fact" is pretty much bullshizzle.

[Choccy]

The Average male thinks about sex every 7 seconds...

I heard it was every six seconds.

It doesn't matter. That "fact" is bullshizzle. Lemme show you.

 

http://leatherhead.files.wordpress.com/200...ip-image001.jpg

 

Think about sex in six seconds.

 

It won't happen, unless you have an...overweight person fetish.

It's called average for a reason. That's like saying "oh my average speed on the way to work today was 60mph" and then someone saying "nope! I bet you drove 30 at least once!"

No, it said "the average male", not "on average, a male thinks about sex every six seconds". It's stated as average guys think about sex every six seconds. The syllogism would work like so:

 

IF X is an average male,

THEN he thinks about sex every six seconds.

 

Which is not true. Nobody thinks about sex every six seconds, except for erotomaniacs. Thus, the syllogism presented in the "factoid" is invalid.

 

That said, I think about sex maybe four or five times a day, that I'm consciously aware of. Because I am better at controlling subconscious behaviors (being a human and all that shizzle), I don't randomly jump on attractive females and start going at it. Therefore, given both the syllogism and my own personal experience, I'd say the "fact" is pretty much bullshizzle.

 

The 6 second thing is lies.