Separate Skill Logs From Other Rs Media.

[Fatalysm]

Put it on trial, if activity picks up as a main forum then keep it there. If it doesn't pick up, then maybe you just have to accept that it's just not that popular.

[Kemosabe]

One of the serious issues with Sal's is that it's slowly dying. We're not getting any new members and the older ones are slowly quitting RuneScape, then eventually leaving the forums altogether.

 

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite. By putting ours further on show by splitting it into its own forum we'll increase traffic to it. When new members join, it'll be one of the first things they see. Having a log increases activity as the owner usually updates it (as long as other people show they're interested by posting in it, but that's another issue for another time), so rather than having newbies coming and leaving, we could possibly be looking at larger flow into the rest of the forums as they stay.

 

There are no negatives in splitting skill logs, only positives.

 

Put it on trial, if activity picks up as a main forum then keep it there. If it doesn't pick up, then maybe you just have to accept that it's just not that popular.

When was the last time you actually spent time in there? :D It's pretty much the most active RuneScape part of these forums. There is no issues with flow into it, it's just it would be a large bonus to increase it further.

Edited May 14, 2011 by Kemosabe

[Ambo100]

There are no negatives in splitting skill logs, only positives.

 

More scrolling to do for people who don't look at skill logs :D

[Micael Fatia]

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite.

That's not true, the clan sections of RSC and Tip.it are a lot more active than their skill logs sections.

Skills logs are only the most active part of forums that have no clan community like ours, and when we had one I assure you it had more activity than the skill logs section.

There are no negatives in splitting skill logs, only positives.

I don't see any negatives but I don't see any positives either. You are saying that this change will bring more activity and new members to Sal's but what evidence do you have to support this?

Any examples of forums that did the same thing and got more members because of it or something? Because we can't just make changes like this based on a hunch or just to please a few members.

[Yoyoma]

One of the serious issues with Sal's is that it's slowly dying. We're not getting any new members and the older ones are slowly quitting RuneScape, then eventually leaving the forums altogether.

 

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite. By putting ours further on show by splitting it into its own forum we'll increase traffic to it. When new members join, it'll be one of the first things they see. Having a log increases activity as the owner usually updates it (as long as other people show they're interested by posting in it, but that's another issue for another time), so rather than having newbies coming and leaving, we could possibly be looking at larger flow into the rest of the forums as they stay.

 

Skill logs are easily the most popular part of our forum, aside from scape lounge (but can that really be "popular"?).

 

I change my original stance (ty to Kemo).

 

I believe that there are no negatives to moving Skill Logs. Skill Logs has enough traffic to make it its own forum.

 

Maybe we could move the achievements section under a new Skill Logs section, as their similar and then skill logs wouldn't be a main section on its own.

[Easl]

One of the serious issues with Sal's is that it's slowly dying. We're not getting any new members and the older ones are slowly quitting RuneScape, then eventually leaving the forums altogether.

 

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite. By putting ours further on show by splitting it into its own forum we'll increase traffic to it. When new members join, it'll be one of the first things they see. Having a log increases activity as the owner usually updates it (as long as other people show they're interested by posting in it, but that's another issue for another time), so rather than having newbies coming and leaving, we could possibly be looking at larger flow into the rest of the forums as they stay.

 

Skill logs are easily the most popular part of our forum, aside from scape lounge (but can that really be "popular"?).

 

 

 

Scape lounge, RS questions, Rs discussion all seem far more popular, along with comments being more than "good luck I support" (ok, so the quality isn't much higher in the boards, but you get my point)

 

Personally I think it would be better in it's own category, renamed to The Progress Board or something?

[Yoyoma]

Personally I think it would be better in it's own category, renamed to The Progress Board or something?

 

Meh. Sounds kind of dumpy. In terms of traffic, scape lounge and RS Questions garner the most traffic. But in terms of popularity, I'd say Skill Logs trumps all.

 

I would move Skill Logs to its own forum and put Achievements under that.

[Kemosabe]

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite.

That's not true, the clan sections of RSC and Tip.it are a lot more active than their skill logs sections.

Skills logs are only the most active part of forums that have no clan community like ours, and when we had one I assure you it had more activity than the skill logs section.

There are no negatives in splitting skill logs, only positives.

I don't see any negatives but I don't see any positives either. You are saying that this change will bring more activity and new members to Sal's but what evidence do you have to support this?

Any examples of forums that did the same thing and got more members because of it or something? Because we can't just make changes like this based on a hunch or just to please a few members.

I have absolutely no evidence, but I think it's a fairly obvious thing. It definitely won't save the forums, but it won't do any harm.

 

I seriously don't see why people would be opposed to it. What kind of harm will it do to the forums?

 

Also, stop bringing clan sections into this. We all know you're big on clanning, but this entire thread is based on skill logs. Sure, those sections might be bigger on other sites, but achievement sections sure are hell aren't small.

 

Scape lounge, RS questions, Rs discussion all seem far more popular, along with comments being more than "good luck I support" (ok, so the quality isn't much higher in the boards, but you get my point)

 

Personally I think it would be better in it's own category, renamed to The Progress Board or something?

Skill logs are easily the most active RuneScape based part of our forums. RuneScape Questions: You get a few people asking questions, getting their answers, and leaving. There's nothing in there to make them stay. RuneScape Discussion, similar thing.

 

Those aren't kind of forums that will make people stay. If you make skill logs/achievements more accessible and visible, and even easier for people to make (dropping post requirements for pictures in there), you're going to get other people committing to their skill logs, and if they're new forumers, staying for longer on the forums. I'm a perfect example of this.

[Micael Fatia]

Also, stop bringing clan sections into this. We all know you're big on clanning, but this entire thread is based on skill logs. Sure, those sections might be bigger on other sites, but achievement sections sure are hell aren't small.

I only brought clan sections into this because of something you said:

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite.

Which is a lie. Skill logs section is only the most active area of Sal's realm out of all the major fansites and that's just because our clan section died. It's a fact. And I haven't checked but in RSC I'm pretty sure there are other sections more active than the skills logs. If you don't want me to bring clans into this then stop making stuff up just to further your argument. Besides I wasn't even the one who mentioned the clan section first, it was Easl.

 

I seriously don't see why people would be opposed to it. What kind of harm will it do to the forums?

And what good will it do? It won't bring more activity to Sal's just because you say it will.

Edited May 15, 2011 by Micael Fatia

[Yoyoma]

Are we discussing ideas of whether or not to separate the skill logs or to bring more site traffic to the forums and make sure people stay?

 

Because they are entirely different.

 

If we're trying to address both issues, I think that we should separate Skill Logs from RuneScape Media.

[Kemosabe]

Also, stop bringing clan sections into this. We all know you're big on clanning, but this entire thread is based on skill logs. Sure, those sections might be bigger on other sites, but achievement sections sure are hell aren't small.

I only brought clan sections into this because of something you said:

Skill logs/achievement areas are probably the most active RuneScape based part of any fansite.

Which is a lie. Skill logs section is only the most active area of Sal's realm out of all the major fansites and that's just because our clan section died. It's a fact. And I haven't checked but in RSC I'm pretty sure there are other sections more active than the skills logs. If you don't want me to bring clans into this then stop making stuff up just to further your argument. Besides I wasn't even the one who mentioned the clan section first, it was Easl.

OK, maybe I was wrong. But you can't deny that achievement sections are a huge part of any RuneScape based part of any fansite.

 

I seriously don't see why people would be opposed to it. What kind of harm will it do to the forums?

And what good will it do? It won't bring more activity to Sal's just because you say it will.

Maybe I'm wording this wrong. While I definitely cannot say for sure that this will bring more activity, my observations are pretty much based on truth and common sense. It won't save the site, but it won't do any harm and it could possibly make a difference.

[Eval Riz]

I don't think anything bad can come from separating the skill log section. As others have said, the skill log section sees a large amount activity, especially in comparison to some of the other forums. Separating it doesn\'t make it any more important, or for that matter make other forums less important than they were.

 

I've been a part of Runescape in some way or another since 2005. For a few years, I remember coming to Sals just to look at skill logs. I wasn\'t even a member of the site and yet I still logged in as a guest just to look at them and read. Other skill logs inspired me to make one of my own and even inspired me in-game.

 

The activity in that forum serves as proof that it's a great part of this community. Increasing it\'s publicity may only be beneficial, not only to the amount of replies that loggers receive (which is the selfish way to look at it), but it also may increase the general interest that guests may have in the community when they come to visit Sal's Realm.

 

I seriously don't see why people would be opposed to it. What kind of harm will it do to the forums?

And what good will it do? It won't bring more activity to Sal's just because you say it will.

Maybe I'm wording this wrong. While I definitely cannot say for sure that this will bring more activity, my observations are pretty much based on truth and common sense. It won't save the site, but it won't do any harm and it could possibly make a difference.

I agree with Kemosabe. Given that no harm can come, why not try? It can only benefit the community, not hurt it.

Edited May 16, 2011 by Eval Riz

[Yero2000]

I don't think anything bad can come from separating the skill log section. As others have said, the skill log section sees a large amount activity, especially in comparison to some of the other forums. Separating it doesn\'t make it any more important, or for that matter make other forums less important than they were.

 

I've been a part of Runescape in some way or another since 2005. For a few years, I remember coming to Sals just to look at skill logs. I wasn\'t even a member of the site and yet I still logged in as a guest just to look at them and read. Other skill logs inspired me to make one of my own and even inspired me in-game.

 

The activity in that forum serves as proof that it's a great part of this community. Increasing it\'s publicity may only be beneficial, not only to the amount of replies that loggers receive (which is the selfish way to look at it), but it also may increase the general interest that guests may have in the community when they come to visit Sal's Realm.

 

I seriously don't see why people would be opposed to it. What kind of harm will it do to the forums?

And what good will it do? It won't bring more activity to Sal's just because you say it will.

Maybe I'm wording this wrong. While I definitely cannot say for sure that this will bring more activity, my observations are pretty much based on truth and common sense. It won't save the site, but it won't do any harm and it could possibly make a difference.

I agree with Kemosabe. Given that no harm can come, why not try? It can only benefit the community, not hurt it.

 

As a guest, you said you were inspired by it, just the way it is. If you were inspired by it like that, then it is fine and doesn't need separating, no?

[Yoyoma]

As a guest, you said you were inspired by it, just the way it is. If you were inspired by it like that, then it is fine and doesn't need separating, no?

 

But what is wrong with separating them?

 

I say we do a trial period of about two weeks. If it doesn't work, then no harm done!

 

Note:

I joined the forums because I hated the RuneScape Blue skin. :D

[_Ej]

My opinion is if it's not broke, why fix it? Things are fine as they are now, so I don't see a massive problem. I'd be more worried about some of the very inactive forums, rather than a very active one like this.

[Moog]

My opinion is if it's not broke, why fix it? Things are fine as they are now, so I don't see a massive problem. I'd be more worried about some of the very inactive forums, rather than a very active one like this.

 

I know that it isn't a huge issue at all, but isn't this forum for posting feedback?

 

And yeah I know what you mean... *pokes library*

[Yoyoma]

My opinion is if it's not broke, why fix it? Things are fine as they are now, so I don't see a massive problem. I'd be more worried about some of the very inactive forums, rather than a very active one like this.

 

I know that it isn't a huge issue at all, but isn't this forum for posting feedback?

 

And yeah I know what you mean... *pokes library*

 

 

It is. It's for suggestions and feedback. This falls under that category.

[_Ej]

My opinion is if it's not broke, why fix it? Things are fine as they are now, so I don't see a massive problem. I'd be more worried about some of the very inactive forums, rather than a very active one like this.

 

I know that it isn't a huge issue at all, but isn't this forum for posting feedback?

 

And yeah I know what you mean... *pokes library*

It was good to put it out there, to see what everyone thinks :D.

[PaladinPker]

I joined the forums because I hated the RuneScape Blue skin. :D

 

Brilliant! Use the trashiest default skin possible so lurkers have to sign up!

 

To all of you claiming that no negatives can come, you also have listed no positives. While you say "Then why not, maybe a positive will show up somewhere?", it is equally likely that a negative could show up somewhere as well. I see no good reason to do this; skill logs already dominates runescape media anyways.

[Kesthetic]

My opinion is if it's not broke, why fix it? Things are fine as they are now, so I don't see a massive problem. I'd be more worried about some of the very inactive forums, rather than a very active one like this.

 

But Jagex does it all the time, why shouldn't we?

[Yoyoma]

I joined the forums because I hated the RuneScape Blue skin. :D

 

Brilliant! Use the trashiest default skin possible so lurkers have to sign up!

 

It worked for me!

 

But Jagex does it all the time, why shouldn't we?

We are a Jagex-supported fansite...

[Yero2000]

I joined the forums because I hated the RuneScape Blue skin. :D

 

Brilliant! Use the trashiest default skin possible so lurkers have to sign up!

 

It worked for me!

 

But Jagex does it all the time, why shouldn't we?

We are a Jagex-supported fansite...

 

I thought we weren't supported by Jagex in any way? Just a fansite?

[_Ej]

I thought we weren't supported by Jagex in any way? Just a fansite?

Note sure of the official term/title, but Sal's is a Jagex Platinum ranked site, or something like that. We're kind of one of the 'approved' sites.