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I don't think anyone suggested resurrecting the RP subforum Samsara, they're asking for the RP topics that are now located here (Scape Lounge) to be moved to the Library.

 

So if now Salmoneus decided to turn Sal's Realm into a My Little Pony forum and the RuneScape players decided to stop posting here because of it who would be killing Sal's RS community? Salmoneus or the RS players?

You cannot force people to accept changes they do not like. No matter how you paint it in the end you might only have two options: option A) let the RP community stay alive a little longer; or option B) kill it. Which one would you choose?

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I don't think anyone suggested resurrecting the RP subforum Samsara, they're asking for the RP topics that are now located here (Scape Lounge) to be moved to the Library.

 

Thanks for the heads up, I've changed my post.

 

So if now Salmoneus decided to turn Sal's Realm into a My Little Pony forum and the RuneScape players decided to stop posting here because of it who would be killing Sal's RS community? Salmoneus or the RS players?

You cannot force people to accept changes they do not like. No matter how you paint it in the end you might only have two options: option A) let the RP community stay alive a little longer; or option B) kill it. Which one would you choose?

 

We didn't make it impossible for RPs to exist--we just gave them a new place to. Change is always difficult, but I don't think that what we've done is hurting the health of the RP community. I believe it's the opposite (see Yuanrang's post on this same page).

 

Also, who the hell told you about our MLP plans? The mod forum is leaking again...

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First thing's first. Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said I or any roleplayers would actively refuse to post in the 'Scape Lounge should nothing happen. Although, you may right that I would be further discouraged to create a roleplay in the Lounge in the fear of wasting time and effort.

 

In this particular case, the change is difficult because it absurd. Players that intend to roleplay do no go looking for roleplays in a Lounge, they go looking in the creative section, which in our case is now the Library. There are a multitude of other forums that place their roleplays and roleplaying community within a 'Library' type subforum. With that said, potential roleplayers are more likely to mistake a roleplay in the Lounge as a forum game and pass it off; conversely, people that mistake it for a forum game might enter it and derail it. This was seen in the latest mafia game, although the mods dealt with it like a champ. The Scape Lounge may get the most traffic in the forum, but it does not mean that it is the right traffic.

 

 

I know a few odd roleplayers that check by every so often to see if a roleplay has sprung up. How will they react when they see no roleplaying section at all? Well, they'll check the Library, expecting, logically, for them to be there, and when they don't see it, they'll probably leave, never to come back. Now, I'm saying this is going to be case, but it's a likely scenario that further tears apart the community.

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I came back to RP, and realized my worst fear happened when I saw-- well, didn't see, The Role-Player's Room.

 

However small the role-player community may be, to cater them with simply keeping a subforum that's already there (ie, doing nothing) isn't that big of a deal. The perceived low activity or the 'validity' of the posts there affect no-one but the RPers, don't they?

 

Click This, what was the name of that website you joined? I just noticed your signature.

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I came back to RP, and realized my worst fear happened when I saw-- well, didn't see, The Role-Player's Room.

 

However small the role-player community may be, to cater them with simply keeping a subforum that's already there (ie, doing nothing) isn't that big of a deal. The perceived low activity or the 'validity' of the posts there affect no-one but the RPers, don't they?

 

Click This, what was the name of that website you joined?

 

Here's your account you made almost exactly a year ago.

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I came back to RP, and realized my worst fear happened when I saw-- well, didn't see, The Role-Player's Room.

 

However small the role-player community may be, to cater them with simply keeping a subforum that's already there (ie, doing nothing) isn't that big of a deal. The perceived low activity or the 'validity' of the posts there affect no-one but the RPers, don't they?

 

Click This, what was the name of that website you joined?

 

Here's your account you made almost exactly a year ago.

 

And hadn't checked back since, apparently. Thanks!

 

Can anyone clue me in on what's going on with the role-playing situation here?

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To distinguish it as an RP I suggest a simple "RP" at the start of the topic, along with a statement that says the topics with said title are, in fact, not a forum game, and is actually a role play and not some forum game.

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To distinguish it as an RP I suggest a simple "RP" at the start of the topic, along with a statement that says the topics with said title are, in fact, not a forum game, and is actually a role play and not some forum game.

 

The problem with that is that eventually our stories become lost in a sea of spam.

 

I enjoyed having a separate forum for role-playing; all of our stories were archived. I regret not saving any of it, most of my first writing was there.

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Aliath, its as easy as looking at the content button in everyone's personal profile.

 

Sure, but what about people that are not roleplaying in such theoretical aforementioned roleplay?

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First thing's first. Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said I or any roleplayers would actively refuse to post in the 'Scape Lounge should nothing happen. Although, you may right that I would be further discouraged to create a roleplay in the Lounge in the fear of wasting time and effort.

When did I put any words in your mouth? In both occasions I used the word 'might' - "[...] 'might' not accept the decision[...]" "[...] 'might' only have two options [...]". Never said it was a fact you or anyone else would stop RPing nor even once mentioned your name in one of my posts. I merely stated it was a possibility keeping the topics here would do more harm than good, and seeing as the RP community is almost dead the only thing worse than 'almost dead' as far as I know is 'dead'. Common sense.

So please I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth.

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Aliath, its as easy as looking at the content button in everyone's personal profile.

 

Thank you for that!

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Aliath, its as easy as looking at the content button in everyone's personal profile.

 

Sure, but what about people that are not roleplaying in such theoretical aforementioned roleplay?

Ummm what? I don't understand the question. What aforementioned roleplay?

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First thing's first. Please don't put words in my mouth, I never said I or any roleplayers would actively refuse to post in the 'Scape Lounge should nothing happen. Although, you may right that I would be further discouraged to create a roleplay in the Lounge in the fear of wasting time and effort.

When did I put any words in your mouth? In both occasions I used the word 'might' - "[...] 'might' not accept the decision[...]" "[...] 'might' only have two options [...]". Never said it was a fact you or anyone else would stop RPing nor even once mentioned your name in one of my posts. I merely stated it was a possibility keeping the topics here would do more harm than good, and seeing as the RP community is almost dead the only thing worse than 'almost dead' as far as I know is 'dead'. Common sense.

So please I'd appreciate if you didn't put words in my mouth.

 

Peace, Micael. I was addressing Seaconmorae.

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Aliath, its as easy as looking at the content button in everyone's personal profile.

 

Sure, but what about people that are not roleplaying in such theoretical aforementioned roleplay?

Ummm what? I don't understand the question. What aforementioned roleplay?

 

He's saying that our stories will be lost to people who would simply like to read them.

 

At the core, most of us role-play out of love of writing. It's a giant writing exercise for me, not a game. We're writing a story where, generally, one writer writes from the point of view of one character. If A Song of Ice and Fire had been written by multiple authors, each assuming exclusive control over one character, would it have any less merit as literature?

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Even still, I can go look at anyones previous content, so its very easy to do it.

 

And, Click, when did I put words in your mouth? If it seemed so, I apologize, as that's not how I meant it.

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'Tis alright, Micael. It happens. :P

 

Seacon, you implied that some of us would boycott the 'Lounge should the mods decide against it, which to me, came out of nowhere.

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To reiterate, in case the ridiculous comparaison to mafia comes up: role-playing is, for most of us, a big writing experiment.

 

We're not playing a game, we're writing. Likewise, mafia is a very interesting social experiment. I'm not trying to detract from it; it's just not what we do.

 

When I'm RPing, I'm writing. I'm not pretending to be someone else, I'm just writing another character. I'm working with another writer to advance the plot, and help each-other with our writing and creativity. If A Song of Ice and Fire had been written by multiple authors, each assuming exclusive control over one character, would it have any less merit as literature?

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Even still, I can go look at anyones previous content, so its very easy to do it.

 

You could do that, but new people to RPing here or to Sals in general would first have to find the role playing threads in order to figure out whose members' content they'd need to browse. Also, not to mention 'Find Content' can be really tedious sometimes.

 

 

Hopefully I interpreted what you were saying correctly; if so, that process seems somewhat redundant to me.

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If we get RP's going then they will not be drowned. [...]

I suggest that if/when we get a RP going, that we request it pinned if it's very popular, and if goes for an amount of time (up to mods for the length) without acyivity, it gets unpinned. Just an idea.

But you won't get any RPs going if the RP community refuses to post here. As for topics getting pinned, well I highly doubt that's going to happen. It would be favouring a group of people over other groups, what if the Mafia players decided they wanted their popular Mafia games pinned too? What if Adam? and the DSZ fans decide they want the DSZ topic pinned? What if the bronies decide they need a topic pinned too? I just don't see it working.

 

The way is see it the moderators have presented their argument as to why the RPs should stay here, and it's a good argument, but now they should let the RP community decide. Because if refusing to move the RP topics to the Library means killing the RP community (if they do not accept the mod team decision) then I think you'll agree it's preferable to move the topics.

 

I don't know about you but I'd much rather have the RP community last a little longer (even if not much longer) than lose it right now because of this.

 

The bold is where I got the idea of some RPers boycotting, because, if they resist the change, what other way are they resisting other than to not RP here.

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If we get RP's going then they will not be drowned. [...]

I suggest that if/when we get a RP going, that we request it pinned if it's very popular, and if goes for an amount of time (up to mods for the length) without acyivity, it gets unpinned. Just an idea.

But you won't get any RPs going if the RP community refuses to post here. As for topics getting pinned, well I highly doubt that's going to happen. It would be favouring a group of people over other groups, what if the Mafia players decided they wanted their popular Mafia games pinned too? What if Adam? and the DSZ fans decide they want the DSZ topic pinned? What if the bronies decide they need a topic pinned too? I just don't see it working.

 

The way is see it the moderators have presented their argument as to why the RPs should stay here, and it's a good argument, but now they should let the RP community decide. Because if refusing to move the RP topics to the Library means killing the RP community (if they do not accept the mod team decision) then I think you'll agree it's preferable to move the topics.

 

I don't know about you but I'd much rather have the RP community last a little longer (even if not much longer) than lose it right now because of this.

 

The bold is where I got the idea of some RPers boycotting, because, if they resist the change, what other way are they resisting other than to not RP here.

 

I interpreted that more of being less-inclined to roleplay, but I suppose we shouldn't nitpick and get back on the main topic of fixing this stuff.

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Looking back, I see I misinterpreted the bolded area. My bad. I see you meant resist the change in the way of having RPs put into The Library.

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