Roleplay Room Discussion Thread

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Looking back, I see I misinterpreted the bolded area. My bad. I see you meant resist the change in the way of having RPs put into The Library.

 

My argument is for having the roleplays put into the Library, unless I'm misinterpreting your sentence. >.<

[Seaconmorae]

Let's drop these last few posts click, because its one misinterpretation after another.

[Seaconmorae]

Speaking of reviving the RP of Sals, I have an idea for a RP. It's not an action one like the most famous of Sals RPs, but I think it might fair well nonetheless. Seeing as I have no experience whatsoever with being a "dungeon master" for lack of a better term, I would need a partner in crime or two to make it successful. It's an idea I've had for awhile.

 

The earth as we know it is gone. The majority of humanity has been wiped out by a virus. About 150 of each race has been saved, and are on large ships called arks. About 50 years from the period called the Arrival of Noah, scientists have deemed the earth habitable for humans once again. Some of man's prey have become more dangerous in their adaptation and mutation.

 

Humans were killed by the virus, whilst animals were mutated, though the scientists call it forced evolution.

 

The point? To establish a colony for humans to begin anew. The arks have been under a very strict, routine dictatorship. The roleplay will end when it seems like humanity can stand on its own two feet without us playing gods. It's set about 60 years after today. Roughly.

 

 

 

Just an idea. The large deal of it is negotiable/changeable

[Yuanrang]

But the problem, Yuanrang, is that if you keep the RPs here it's quite probable you're condemning RPing to an even quicker death. Because judging by the reactions of the few RPers left it's quite obvious they're not satisfied with the mod team decision, they might not accept it and stop RPing, or worse: they might stop using Sal's because it's very possible some of them only come here to RP or to reminisce about the 'golden age' of Sals RPing.

If they choose to do so, then the death of the RP community is on their hands because in such a scenario, they are the ones trying to extort the Site & Community management to follow their whims.

 

That said, I think the people within the RP community is both mature and open-minded enough to not put forth such a petty ultimatium in the first place. I think they realise that in the end, the desire to roleplay together would take precedence and that extortion will get them nowhere. :P

 

As for topics getting pinned, well I highly doubt that's going to happen. It would be favouring a group of people over other groups, what if the Mafia players decided they wanted their popular Mafia games pinned too? What if Adam? and the DSZ fans decide they want the DSZ topic pinned? What if the bronies decide they need a topic pinned too? I just don't see it working.

Now, I am not saying that this is going to happen, but what would be the problem with changing the system around a bit? Let us say that a topic reach amount of posts (let us use 100 posts in this case) and is still active. What would be the problem if we then allow for members to report the topic to be pinned? Once it grows inactive (no posts in a certain amount of time), we unpin it. That way the relevant topics become put in a visible location, and it is the interest in the topic itself which decided whether or not it is pinned. 100 posts is probably too low, but the details can be sketched out. Pinning and unpinning really does not take a lot of time, so it is not like it takes a long time for Moderators.

 

My point is, we can come up with many solutions and ways to make everything looks smooth, organised and streamlined. Why do we not try to come up with a good alternate solution rather than shun change? I am a traditionalist, I hate change, but in this case I think it is for the best for both the RP community and the overall community. :P

 

The way is see it the moderators have presented their argument as to why the RPs should stay here, and it's a good argument, but now they should let the RP community decide

The Staff is expected to be objective, the RP community is not. You misunderstand something pivotal. This is not a democracy and it never has been. Ultimately, it is the Staff which makes the decision. However, we want to make sure that we listen to every side. I think the Sal's Community deserves to be heard, to be listened to and be allowed to give their arguments. Community feedback is why we have evolved in the way we have, we are not going to stop that. It is in our lifeblood to be influenced by the Community, but when the decision has to be made, it is the Staff which has to consider all the variables, all the arguments and to make an objective decision for the common good. It is why we were promoted in the first place.

 

..and no, I am not saying that we will just go "Sorry guise, we decided something none of you agree with, deal with it." because we have not decided, but sometimes, we have had to make controversial decisions. Maybe we do the same in this particular case as well, I do not know. Time will tell, but I would like you to understand that if that happens, we took this entire discussion most seriously and no matter what, we will weigh the pros against the cons, evaluate every argument, and then make an informed decision. :P

 

So if now Salmoneus decided to turn Sal's Realm into a My Little Pony forum and the RuneScape players decided to stop posting here because of it who would be killing Sal's RS community? Salmoneus or the RS players?

If he did, then we would be Sal's Realm of My Little Pony. There is no "Hey guys, I have an idea: How about turning this into a MLP forum?" involved in such a case. He will either tell us that he is going to do it, or he will just do it. The Staff, which are basically his eyes and ears, would have to follow it or demote ourselves.

 

I have seen Sal revert entire changes or suggestions because he has disagreed with, but those cases are rare. Usually, he considers all the arguments before giving consent to an option, but he has the ultimate say in any discussion and I think all in the Staff know as much, even if he rarely has to use that sort power. It is the same with the Staff. We rarely use it as well, but it does happen. :P

 

 

Players that intend to roleplay do no go looking for roleplays in a Lounge, they go looking in the creative section, which in our case is now the Library.

I think that people currently go to the LIbrary because they know that's where it is. These established members will be confused at first, but that is solved rather easily. We could make an announcement or a pinned topic in the LIbrary saying all RP discussions/games/stories has been moved to notify them. Chances are, they will visit the Scape Lounge anyway since that is what people usually do. If the RP community is active there, then it is really not a problem.

 

As for new members which has no real experience whatsoever, they usually tend to have no idea what is going on anyway, so whether they find it in the LIbrary or the Scape Lounge is quite frankly of no real consequence. What I do know is that they will visit the Scape Lounge, yet they might not visit the Library. At least by having it in the Scape Lounge, most people will be aware that there actually are roleplaying threads instead of locking it away to the historically least visited and least popular forum we have had for the lifespan of the Forum itself.

 

I am sure that some people specifically go to the Library to look for RP threads, I do not deny that. I am just saying that everyone goes to the Scape Lounge regularily to see what is going on.

 

With that said, potential roleplayers are more likely to mistake a roleplay in the Lounge as a forum game and pass it off; conversely, people that mistake it for a forum game might enter it and derail it. This was seen in the latest mafia game, although the mods dealt with it like a champ. The Scape Lounge may get the most traffic in the forum, but it does not mean that it is the right traffic.

First of all, just report these people like any other people do when they do something they should not. The Staff will handle it.

Secondly, considering the roleplayers were complaining that you were dying and could not get a roleplaying thread going prior to this debate, I would not start being picky about whether or not increased traffic is the right traffic for you. When you are hanging from a ledge, about to drop to certain death, it is usually not a smart idea to be "Uhmmm, I do not think your arms are strong enough to save me" when someone comes and tries to help you. It would likely be the best gamble to grab said person's hand and then try with your own strength to raise yourself up.

If people do not understand how to roleplay, teach them. As long as they are interested to learn, why on Earth do you want nothing but established, experienced, roleplayers? That is a surefire way of making sure the RP community dies. If you want to avoid trolls, then poke the Staff. Our existence on this forum is basically to deal with such matters. Report them and make sure you contact us. We will do our jobs, so these trolls would be dealt with. :P

 

I know a few odd roleplayers that check by every so often to see if a roleplay has sprung up. How will they react when they see no roleplaying section at all?

I would imagine they would ask someone or, if not, do a search for old threads or maybe even look at a pinned topic or announcement that we have put in that section. What, do you honestly think we can not solve something so trivial as that? There are plenty of ways for us to make sure that latecomers will stay updated as long as they even bother casting a cursory glance around. If not.. well, then I do not think anything would change it. I mean, after all, we did remove the specific subforum so they would just see that and leave anyway. If they enter the Library, they will see it.

 

However small the role-player community may be, to cater them with simply keeping a subforum that's already there (ie, doing nothing) isn't that big of a deal. The perceived low activity or the 'validity' of the posts there affect no-one but the RPers, don't they?

Keeping an entire sub-forum for about 5 people is not very reasonable, which is why we removed it. When we did, we moved all the topics to the Scape Lounge. While I am sure some of you would want it to happen, we can not actually move the threads back again. It is a change which is now permanent, so it is probably best to just accept that and keep the discussion going about things which actually can be changed and accomodated.

[Micael Fatia]

This sounds to me like the sort of 'we have not yet decided' given to the Clan Community and we all know how that ended.

Not that I am comparing the Clan Community to the RP Community, we were far more immature, arrogant and demanding and caused so much more trouble than the rest of the forums altogether. But still a large part of the drama could have been avoided if you had told us your decision from the beginning instead of making us wait I don't even know how long in anticipation. It only lead to increased frustration and actually gave hope to the community that that we would get what we had asked for, which in the end contributed greatly to the death of the CD. A simple 'no it's not going to happen' would have saved a lot of trouble.

 

(Note that I use 'we' because I was a member of the clan community, but personally I've always been of the opinion the sectional moderators idea was a stupid idea. The leaders of the little revolution and the ones who wanted the sectional moderators simply had hopes they would be the ones getting promoted and wanted to have some sort of authority over the rest of us. It's ridiculous really.)

[bros before hoes]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Edited August 1, 2013 by bros before hoes

[reepicheep]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

[bros before hoes]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

[reepicheep]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

[bros before hoes]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

 

If they wanted to help out, then why aren't they listening to what the RPers want?

 

 

 

Look at all the attention the RP community has gotten in the past few days because this topic is in the scape lounge.

 

Rather than repeating arguments about why it should be moved to the Library, let's spend some time focusing on how we could make what we have work.

 

Negative attention? Is that really want the RP community wants?

 

Why not instead of ignoring the community, you guys actually do what it wants for a change?

Edited August 1, 2013 by bros before hoes

[reepicheep]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

 

If they wanted to help out, then why aren't they listening to what the RPers want?

This is not a democracy and it never has been.

 

And pretty much everything else Yuan said.

[bros before hoes]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

 

If they wanted to help out, then why aren't they listening to what the RPers want?

This is not a democracy and it never has been.

 

And pretty much everything else Yuan said.

 

Well then maybe that is the issue here, and has always been the issue with these forums.

[reepicheep]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

 

If they wanted to help out, then why aren't they listening to what the RPers want?

This is not a democracy and it never has been.

 

And pretty much everything else Yuan said.

 

Well then maybe that is the issue here, and has always been the issue with these forums.

That is a matter of opinion. I don't see it as an issue, you do.

[bros before hoes]

This is literally the most unnecessary argument I've seen on Sal's. There is absolutely no reason why RP should not be moved into The Library. And if it causes so many problems to move them into The Library, why the hell can't you just give them their goddamn RP forum back?

 

And then the bull shizzle about the difference in a RP thread and a Mafia game. How does it make more sense to merge two forums together because there are similarities in ONE of the threads in the other forum? Why not move Mafia games in the RP forum instead of moving all of the RPer into the Scape Lounge because Mafia games are kinda like RP?

Did you not at all read any mod posts? ._.

 

I have read every single post since this topic was moved to the Scape Lounge, and all I have read is speculation from the Mods that the RP community will grow while the RPers are unhappy about the change. How can they actually expect a community to grow if it is unhappy? Move this shizzle to the Library if you move it anywhere. All of the argument by the staff haven't made sense to me, not because I don't understand them but because they seem counterproductive.

I'm not sure what the hurry is here. All I see the mods doing is trying to make the RP forum more active, so I don't see the problem. They'll come to a consensus at some point, and until then bickering about it won't help anybody.

 

If they wanted to help out, then why aren't they listening to what the RPers want?

Because what a community wants and what a community needs aren't always synonymous. (And we are listening, and understand their request. We just don't want to jump to a haste decision. We have an opportunity to rekindle the RP community, and it's something we would like to see happen. The staff currently thinks that bringing RP topics to the Scape Lounge is the best way to do that.)

 

Rather than repeating arguments about why it should be moved to the Library, let's spend some time focusing on how we could make what we have work.

 

What the RPers of Sal's need is a place that they can be creative with their writing without the floods of organized spam.

 

If you guys are so reluctant to move the RP out of the Scape Lounge, then why not give them a sub-forum inside of the Scape Lounge like the Fun n Games section?

[reepicheep]

What the RPers of Sal's need is a place that they can be creative with their writing without the floods of organized spam.

We've suggested remedies to handle that, which have been largely ignored.

Besides, you'd think a mafia game would be just as susceptible to spam and any problems there may have been were dealt with swiftly.

[Yuanrang]

This sounds to me like the sort of 'we have not yet decided' given to the Clan Community and we all know how that ended.

Not that I am comparing the Clan Community to the RP Community, we were far more immature, arrogant and demanding and caused so much more trouble than the rest of the forums altogether. But still a large part of the drama could have been avoided if you had told us your decision from the beginning instead of making us wait I don't even know how long in anticipation. It only lead to increased frustration and actually gave hope to the community that that we would get what we had asked for, which in the end contributed greatly to the death of the CD. A simple 'no it's not going to happen' would have saved a lot of trouble.

Now that is utterly unfair. I do not know how many years I spent trying to have some form of dialogue between the Staff and the Clan Community, but if there is one thing I know, I told the Clan Community countless times that they should drastically lower any form of expectation they had. One of the largest desires you guys had was for instance Clan Moderators that exclusively handled that section. I do not know how many times I had to tell you guys that we would never lower our standards and give out any form of moderating powers to people who could not prove that they were objective or capable to follow the overall Forum Rules.

I do not know how many arguments I had to have when Clan Leaders basically said "This is our forum, we can moderate it, the Staff can GTFO" and not really understand what they were being told. We gave you a list of (rather reasonable) things for you (as a Clan Community) to do if you wanted progress and get some of your demands/requests fulfilled. I do not know how many years I tried to defend you guys ad nauseum, petitioning on your behalf and trying to convince my fellow moderators, when a host of fellow Staff members kept looking at all the horrible things you guys did and saw that you were unwilling to change. Maybe it was the hack attempts on fellow clan members. Maybe it was the clan spamming us with homosexual pornography, or those particular cases of pedophilia being spread, but the Clan Community shattered any form of goodwill up until the point it was too late and we could actually turn the Staff Mentality around.

Surprisingly enough, it is hard to convince intelligent people to trust a group of people with some good people surrounded by far more horrible people.

 

Is this a debate about the Clan Community? No, but arguments as that just annoys the hell out of me. The Clan Community drove itself to its own doom, and yes, we had no interest in saving you. The difference with that entire situation compared to this is that, surprise surprise, we actually want to save the roleplaying community and get it back on its feet. We have come up with alternate solutions and remedies abound to fix concerns and potential issues related to such a change, but apparently they are either willingly or unintentionally ignored.

 

 

You know what, to save ourselves a lot of hassle on this: Who here has actually posted frequently in the Library in the last month?

 

I know I have not, I have only posted here because it is in the damn Lounge else I would not have noticed it if it was in the Library. I am willing to bet that this apply to a lot of people viewing this thread or posting in it, as well.

 

Either way, I think Lilshu is right in the sense that we keep debating the same thing over and over again so I am more interested in spending time fleshing out all the answers to the two potential outcomes. I know we have a fairly simple plan if we move the RP back to the Library (basically, accomodate it there and make it as visible as possible), but is that enough? In the same way, what can we do to accomodate the RP here in the Lounge if that occurs?

Lilshu, Samsara and myself have come up with some suggestions and ideas, but we are going to need feedback on it as Lilshu says. Having one outlined option and one unknown option does not mean we pick the outlined option, it just means we will do it ourselves and be more likely to miss, should we choose the Scape Lounge. The best way for the RP Community to be ultimately be content, is to tell us what we need to do in both potential outcomes, and I think we more or less have the Library covered since the RP community does not want change. What then, do you guys want from the Scape Lounge? :P

Edited August 1, 2013 by Yuanrang

[Micael Fatia]

Actually the point I was trying to make is that it's pretty obvious you've already came to a decision and pretty much everyone here has reached that conclusion already. There's no need to continue with the farce that you listen and that you're still debating thanks to the feedback you received. I find it insulting.

The three moderators who posted here (you, lilshu and Samsara) all are of the same opinion, and who else can participate in the mod forums debate? Salmoneus and Don have been pretty inactive the past month or so, Goggie has been missing in action for the past two weeks, that leaves Doom and I just don't see Doom championing for the RP community.

 

You said it yourself this is not a democracy, they/we could have the best arguments in the world to have the RP topics moved that you still wouldn't move them because you already decided you won't do it.

 

I have no idea why you went and listed all the immature shizzle the Clan Community did, did I not say we were basically arrogant, immature idiots who caused a crap load of trouble? We absolutely did not deserve getting what we asked for, but the RP community did nothing wrong as far as I know and they're only asking for something really simple: move their topics to the Library. As I've said before no matter how right you might be in the end it doesn't matter if the RP community isn't happy, it's not possible for the RP community to grow if they don't feel confortable posting here.

 

I don't know what 'argument' you saw in my post to annoy the hell out of you, my post was basically me saying you've already decided what you're going to do the same way you had already decided we would not get any sectional moderators due to lack of candidates and due to the fact we did not deserve getting what we asked for and never actually gave us a definite answer which only made things worse.

[bros before hoes]

What the RPers of Sal's need is a place that they can be creative with their writing without the floods of organized spam.

We've suggested remedies to handle that, which have been largely ignored.

 

I think right now, we need to stop discussing the idea of moving the threads into the Library. Points have been made, and they're being evaluated. Repeating the same stuff over and over is detrimental to the discussion at hand.

 

How can we make a Scape Lounge RP work? If an RP thread is incredibly active, we can pin it. We can put together a listing of past RP threads and pin it. We can prevent nonparticipants from making spam posts in the threads. I think that addresses most of the issues raised so far, but we need feedback on this.

 

You're already getting feedback. But just as you claim we are ignoring your ideas, you are also ignoring the feedback.

[Yuanrang]

You're already getting feedback. But just as you claim we are ignoring your ideas, you are also ignoring the feedback.

I am fairly sure he was talking about specific feedback on what people feel needs to be addressed to make sure the RP threads can fit in the Scape Lounge, a matter which has had very little feedback given. He did not say we have not gotten feedback, he is just saying that now we need feedback on something that has been neglected because the focus on the past discussion has been on something else.

 

It is a bold statement to say we are ignoring feedback since you are not privy to the Moderator Board and that discussion. Just because we do not throroughly exhaust a discussion about a piece of feedback, or we indicate that we want to move on, does not mean we ignore it. It means we take it into consideration and bring it to the Moderator's Board where the actual decision will be made after all the arguments have been weighed and valued. :P

[Click This]

Speaking of reviving the RP of Sals, I have an idea for a RP. It's not an action one like the most famous of Sals RPs, but I think it might fair well nonetheless. Seeing as I have no experience whatsoever with being a "dungeon master" for lack of a better term, I would need a partner in crime or two to make it successful. It's an idea I've had for awhile.

 

The earth as we know it is gone. The majority of humanity has been wiped out by a virus. About 150 of each race has been saved, and are on large ships called arks. About 50 years from the period called the Arrival of Noah, scientists have deemed the earth habitable for humans once again. Some of man's prey have become more dangerous in their adaptation and mutation.

 

Humans were killed by the virus, whilst animals were mutated, though the scientists call it forced evolution.

 

The point? To establish a colony for humans to begin anew. The arks have been under a very strict, routine dictatorship. The roleplay will end when it seems like humanity can stand on its own two feet without us playing gods. It's set about 60 years after today. Roughly.

 

 

 

Just an idea. The large deal of it is negotiable/changeable

Well it seems everyone's been sitting around for the past few months waiting for someone else to start a RP thread. Someone's gotta just sit down and do it, and that sounds like a fun idea for an RP. I'd say run with it!

 

That's the gist of it, but I'm less inclined to start one in the Lounge and I feel others are as well. The only way I see roleplays even remotely working in the 'Lounge would be to either pin topics or have an entirely separate subforum within it, which we've all but agreed is impossible.

[reepicheep]

Speaking of reviving the RP of Sals, I have an idea for a RP. It's not an action one like the most famous of Sals RPs, but I think it might fair well nonetheless. Seeing as I have no experience whatsoever with being a "dungeon master" for lack of a better term, I would need a partner in crime or two to make it successful. It's an idea I've had for awhile.

 

The earth as we know it is gone. The majority of humanity has been wiped out by a virus. About 150 of each race has been saved, and are on large ships called arks. About 50 years from the period called the Arrival of Noah, scientists have deemed the earth habitable for humans once again. Some of man's prey have become more dangerous in their adaptation and mutation.

 

Humans were killed by the virus, whilst animals were mutated, though the scientists call it forced evolution.

 

The point? To establish a colony for humans to begin anew. The arks have been under a very strict, routine dictatorship. The roleplay will end when it seems like humanity can stand on its own two feet without us playing gods. It's set about 60 years after today. Roughly.

 

 

 

Just an idea. The large deal of it is negotiable/changeable

Well it seems everyone's been sitting around for the past few months waiting for someone else to start a RP thread. Someone's gotta just sit down and do it, and that sounds like a fun idea for an RP. I'd say run with it!

 

That's the gist of it, but I'm less inclined to start one in the Lounge and I feel others are as well. The only way I see roleplays even remotely working in the 'Lounge would be to either pin topics or have an entirely separate subforum within it, which we've all but agreed is impossible.

But pinning topics was mentioned as an option, if I recall correctly.

[Adam?]

Does the Scape Lounge make it feel less like an exclusive club of role players and you don't want randoms crashing the party? That's the vibe I'm getting.

[Leo]

Does the Scape Lounge make it feel less like an exclusive club of role players and you don't want randoms crashing the party? That's the vibe I'm getting.

 

That's sort of the way I've viewed this. The Scape Lounge is a place where members introduce themselves and everybody in general comes to hang out and post in a slack and relaxed sort of way as compared to the rest of Sal's. Personally I'm uncomfortable with having RPing occurring here just because, and no disrespect to the Lounge, the overall atmosphere here is drastically different to what we had in the RP Room. Also don't get me wrong, it's be great to have new members discover the role plays if they're interested, I just think it would just require a separate place of its own to provide the proper welcome or atmosphere.

 

 

Basically it's playful vs more serious writing, but that's just me.

 

Edit: and yeah the exclusivity was kind of nice to have.

Edited August 2, 2013 by Leo Crimson

[reepicheep]

Does the Scape Lounge make it feel less like an exclusive club of role players and you don't want randoms crashing the party? That's the vibe I'm getting.

 

That's sort of the way I've viewed this. The Scape Lounge is a place where members introduce themselves and everybody in general comes to hang out and post in a slack and relaxed sort of way as compared to the rest of Sal's. Personally I'm uncomfortable with having RPing occurring here just because, and no disrespect to the Lounge, the overall atmosphere here is drastically different to what we had in the RP Room. Also don't get me wrong, it's be great to have new members discover the role plays if they're interested, I just think it would just require a separate place of its own to provide the proper welcome or atmosphere.

 

 

Basically it's playful vs more serious writing, but that's just me.

 

Edit: and yeah the exclusivity was kind of nice to have.

But what point is exclusivity if it leads to your ultimate demise? I mean, I'm not trying to be negative but there hasn't been a new RPer in months (I read most threads on the forums even if I don't post :P) and getting back to the library (where, again, I think one person posted a story and that's more or less it?) would not help at all. The 'Scape Lounge, on the other hand, could actually lead to more members taking a look and even joining, and trolls are hardly an issue.

[Adam?]

Does the Scape Lounge make it feel less like an exclusive club of role players and you don't want randoms crashing the party? That's the vibe I'm getting.

 

That's sort of the way I've viewed this. The Scape Lounge is a place where members introduce themselves and everybody in general comes to hang out and post in a slack and relaxed sort of way as compared to the rest of Sal's. Personally I'm uncomfortable with having RPing occurring here just because, and no disrespect to the Lounge, the overall atmosphere here is drastically different to what we had in the RP Room. Also don't get me wrong, it's be great to have new members discover the role plays if they're interested, I just think it would just require a separate place of its own to provide the proper welcome or atmosphere.

 

 

Basically it's playful vs more serious writing, but that's just me.

 

Edit: and yeah the exclusivity was kind of nice to have.

Why do you deserve exclusivity when there's no activity? There have been far more mafia games in recent memory and those manage to survive in the scape lounge.