Moog Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 This is my opinion, just making sure everyone understands that <3 When I go look at a debate topic about religion, I see a lot of people jumping down each others throats because they don't agree. Someone believes in the Bible > Athiest tells him its fake > Bible-believing person gets hurt. You could argue that they have to deal with it, but, you can't just go around ignoring everyone else and tell them they are wrong, it just won't work. TL;DR: Religion/political debates need to be banned/be heavily moderated, most of the forum is liberal and athiest, so people who aren't like that tend to get shot down. Please don't just disregard this and call me names and tell me my opinion is invalid, because if that happens, that is just proof that I am right. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemosabe Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 How about you just warn people who start flaming and leave the topic as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one23 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The amount of topics that go off rail into religious debates is stupid. Something needs to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moog Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 The amount of topics that go off rail into religious debates is stupid. Something needs to be done. That is my point, a lot of religious debates that start never end well either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20000_Posts Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moog Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. Wow. I see a lot of people get offended just because they think different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20000_Posts Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. Wow. I see a lot of people get offended just because they think different. And? So what if someone gets offended. That's the whole nature of a debate... warning language, but relevant Edited November 5, 2011 by redmonke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moog Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. Wow. I see a lot of people get offended just because they think different. And? So what if someone gets offended. That's the whole nature of a debate... warning language, but relevant A debate is for people to compare opinions until a compromise is met. Not for people to offend one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20000_Posts Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. Wow. I see a lot of people get offended just because they think different. And? So what if someone gets offended. That's the whole nature of a debate... warning language, but relevant A debate is for people to compare opinions until a compromise is met. Not for people to offend one another. Some people get offended when they're told their man in the sky isn't real and their lack of logic or reasoning isn't helping them. I personally get offended when I'm told they don't sell toilets made of solid gold despite all of the logical reasons behind needing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lee Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Wow, again... Please close this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reepicheep Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 My English teacher once said that everything boils down to sex and religion. The reason so many debates turn into religious debates is that many religious people (including me) base many of their opinions on the religion. Anyway, if you get hurt when somebody disagrees with you, you shouldn't be debating in the first place. Your opinion is perfectly valid, but I think you're too worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghebrecht Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) I'm neither atheist nor liberal and I don't see a problem. I'm sorry you get offended that people think differently, but that doesn't give you special rights. this, only difference is that I'm not sorry, I find it rather sad really Edited November 5, 2011 by Egghebrecht Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambo100 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The amount of topics that go off rail into religious debates is stupid. Something needs to be done. That is my point, a lot of religious debates that start never end well either. Most 'debates' in fact don't end at all. It's rarely the case that everyone will unanimously agree to a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) How about you just warn people who start flaming and leave the topic as is. This. /thread Edited November 5, 2011 by Admiral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 The thing is, Zar0s, you can leave those threads. Some of us [myself included!] enjoy reading them, or idly participating in them because some of us [myself included!] are not offended by other peoples' viewpoints. It would be a sad, sad day that we got rid of Debates about Religion. A quiet, sad, sad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalysm Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Haha, heavily moderate my guess of around 20 users an hour, less than half of which would probably not even post in the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prinz Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Well, I really don't see this being a big deal, if a debate offends them, couldn't they just use that heavily regarded invention called a mouse and click away or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heb0 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 While we don't have rules against controversial topics and opinions in the debate room, there are rules that prevent topics from drifting off on tangents or descending into flaming. Many on the staff feel that, because conversation flows naturally, topics should be allowed a certain amount of breathing room when they drift, because this is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing (we don't want to be stomping out too many discussions, after all). However, this is an interpretation of the rules, so if you think they should be interpreted differently, there's nothing wrong with voicing it. Zaros, would you mind elaborating a bit on what you think would be a solution? That is, how strictly should we enforce off-topic rules in the debate room/breaking news specifically? Also, if anyone is flaming in a topic, it certainly shouldn't be allowed to slip by. However, insulting/criticizing ideas (e.g. religion, politics, economics) is generally something we allow. We generally make a distinction between toward whom/what the insults are directed. If it's a user, it's out of bounds. If it's an idea, it's in bounds, unless it's so acrimonious or personal that it actually insults holders of that belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moog Posted November 5, 2011 Author Share Posted November 5, 2011 While we don't have rules against controversial topics and opinions in the debate room, there are rules that prevent topics from drifting off on tangents or descending into flaming. Many on the staff feel that, because conversation flows naturally, topics should be allowed a certain amount of breathing room when they drift, because this is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing (we don't want to be stomping out too many discussions, after all). However, this is an interpretation of the rules, so if you think they should be interpreted differently, there's nothing wrong with voicing it. Zaros, would you mind elaborating a bit on what you think would be a solution? That is, how strictly should we enforce off-topic rules in the debate room/breaking news specifically? Also, if anyone is flaming in a topic, it certainly shouldn't be allowed to slip by. However, insulting/criticizing ideas (e.g. religion, politics, economics) is generally something we allow. We generally make a distinction between toward whom/what the insults are directed. If it's a user, it's out of bounds. If it's an idea, it's in bounds, unless it's so acrimonious or personal that it actually insults holders of that belief. I think the debate room and breaking news should have a lot tighter rules then the other forums because a lot times someone will post a thread in the news forum bout some scientific thing and before you know it a religious debate starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalysm Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 While we don't have rules against controversial topics and opinions in the debate room, there are rules that prevent topics from drifting off on tangents or descending into flaming. Many on the staff feel that, because conversation flows naturally, topics should be allowed a certain amount of breathing room when they drift, because this is inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing (we don't want to be stomping out too many discussions, after all). However, this is an interpretation of the rules, so if you think they should be interpreted differently, there's nothing wrong with voicing it. Zaros, would you mind elaborating a bit on what you think would be a solution? That is, how strictly should we enforce off-topic rules in the debate room/breaking news specifically? Also, if anyone is flaming in a topic, it certainly shouldn't be allowed to slip by. However, insulting/criticizing ideas (e.g. religion, politics, economics) is generally something we allow. We generally make a distinction between toward whom/what the insults are directed. If it's a user, it's out of bounds. If it's an idea, it's in bounds, unless it's so acrimonious or personal that it actually insults holders of that belief. I think the debate room and breaking news should have a lot tighter rules then the other forums because a lot times someone will post a thread in the news forum bout some scientific thing and before you know it a religious debate starts. Got any evidence of that happening? Or, you know, more than a couple times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emo Nemo Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) I have a solution here. Don't go into the topics. That's one of the main reasons I don't bother with religion debate topics. They're never ending, and you're arguing an idea that can't be proven or disproven. Debates aren't fun if there is no way to win them. Edited November 5, 2011 by Emo Nemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatalysm Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I have a solution here. Don't go into the topics. That's one of the main reasons I don't bother with religion debate topics. They're never ending, and you're arguing an idea that can't be proven or disproven. Debates aren't fun if there is no way to win them. why don't we just not go on the forums anymore because we might get offended best not take that chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I have a solution here. Don't go into the topics. That's one of the main reasons I don't bother with religion debate topics. They're never ending, and you're arguing an idea that can't be proven or disproven. Debates aren't fun if there is no way to win them. why don't we just not go on the forums anymore because we might get offended best not take that chance wow dats whats killing sals ur offending me :(:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarguy Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I have a solution here. Don't go into the topics. That's one of the main reasons I don't bother with religion debate topics. They're never ending, and you're arguing an idea that can't be proven or disproven. Debates aren't fun if there is no way to win them. why don't we just not go on the forums anymore because we might get offended best not take that chance wow dats whats killing sals ur offending me :(:mad: you just referenced killing some1 i kno somebody who was killed offensive much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I have a solution here. Don't go into the topics. That's one of the main reasons I don't bother with religion debate topics. They're never ending, and you're arguing an idea that can't be proven or disproven. Debates aren't fun if there is no way to win them. why don't we just not go on the forums anymore because we might get offended best not take that chance wow dats whats killing sals ur offending me :(:mad: you just referenced killing some1 i kno somebody who was killed offensive much wow ur disagreeing w/ me stop being so offensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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