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Should Valentine's Day be Banned?

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While the Occupy movement continues to take over the world (hurrah!), one Tumblr community is looking to start discussion about a holiday.

 

Occupy Valentine's Day is all about taking the consumerism out of love; expanding the definition of the day to include other kinds of love (family, friends, pets); and changing the current view of romance, which is too restrictive. The only real winners on February 14th are those in the romance industry, selling their flowers, chocolates, love tokens and cards.

 

Can Valentine's Day also be thought of as homophobic? After all, the stores tend to advertise only heterosexual couples on this day.

 

For the rest of humanity, the holiday can be downright depressing and is that fair?

 

What do you think?

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No, no, no, and no.

 

I'll dissect this bit by bit though:

 

Occupy Valentine's Day is all about taking the consumerism out of love; expanding the definition of the day to include other kinds of love (family, friends, pets); and changing the current view of romance, which is too restrictive. The only real winners on February 14th are those in the romance industry, selling their flowers, chocolates, love tokens and cards.

While this may be true, I know plenty of couples who love Valentines day as it's an opportunity to do something really special; and it gives them a reason to. You can say that they could do that any particular day (which is totally true!) but it gives them a reason and some sort of societal norm to do something extra special on this particular day. That's great and let them have their fun.

 

Can Valentine's Day also be thought of as homophobic? After all, the stores tend to advertise only heterosexual couples on this day.

This is a rather huge stretch. I'm all for gay rights, but suggesting Valentines Day is homophobic is pretty far fetched. The simple reason it's advertised to straight couples is because straight couples are the majority of couples. That's really all there is to it. All they're trying to advertise to is "couples", and straight couples are the conventional couple so it makes sense to target them.

 

For the rest of humanity, the holiday can be downright depressing and is that fair?

 

What do you think?

 

It's really only depressing if you let it be. I'm going out to a concert on Valentines Day that a lot of single people in my city are going to, put together by people who happen to be single and wanted something fun to do.

 

I'm sure lots of people will start relationships there, but that's not really the point, it's just a concert for having fun and not worrying about the fact it's Valentines Day. Nothing's wrong with that. Don't take away Valentines Day for the people who enjoy it, and I enjoy it a lot when I'm not single, when I am single it's just another day.

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Eye said it so well.

Merch... I disagree with you. :( Eye is like 101% right.

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No, no, no, and no.

 

I'll dissect this bit by bit though:

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While this may be true, I know plenty of couples who love Valentines day as it's an opportunity to do something really special; and it gives them a reason to. You can say that they could do that any particular day (which is totally true!) but it gives them a reason and some sort of societal norm to do something extra special on this particular day. That's great and let them have their fun.

 

 

But what if that fun comes at the expense of other people getting depressed? I'm all for harmless fun, but not when it's fun which upsets others. There were statistics in there, which showed people getting so upset over the pressure to be in a perfect, romantic relationship, that they committed suicide. Valentine's Day is seen as a big flashpoint for folk feeling inadequate and suffering from low self-esteem.

 

(I should point out that I'm on in a relationship, but neither do I want to be. My self-esteem survives VD Day totally intact. :( )

 

This is a rather huge stretch. I'm all for gay rights, but suggesting Valentines Day is homophobic is pretty far fetched. The simple reason it's advertised to straight couples is because straight couples are the majority of couples. That's really all there is to it. All they're trying to advertise to is "couples", and straight couples are the conventional couple so it makes sense to target them.

 

I'll admit that my homophobia-radar did fail somewhat on this one too, but there are people in the protest identifying this.

 

 

It's really only depressing if you let it be. I'm going out to a concert on Valentines Day that a lot of single people in my city are going to, put together by people who happen to be single and wanted something fun to do.

 

I'm sure lots of people will start relationships there, but that's not really the point, it's just a concert for having fun and not worrying about the fact it's Valentines Day. Nothing's wrong with that. Don't take away Valentines Day for the people who enjoy it, and I enjoy it a lot when I'm not single, when I am single it's just another day.

 

I don't personally let it depress me, because I don't give a monkeys about being in a relationship. But I've certainly had people attempt to upset me in the past, pushing me to get a date in time, then implying that I'm somehow worth less, if I didn't get several VD cards. I can definitely see how that happens.

 

I've also had the thing where a friend gets a boyfriend (or girlfriend) and suddenly thinks that gives them license to be cruel and arrogant, while cutting their friends out of their lives. Pulling a partner doesn't deserve a medal. It's just another life experience.

 

Eye said it so well.

Merch... I disagree with you. sad.png Eye is like 101% right.

 

Then my answers above apply to you too. <3

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Not really fussed either way to be honest. If I am with a chap then its a great reason to do something special or different, if i'm not then its a great excuse to eat ice cream and drink wine!

 

You don't have to buy into valentines day, its perfectly optional. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. And for those who get really upset about not getting a card, I bet they don't send them to other people.

 

If it bothers you then grow a backbone, there's no point banning something because some people can get upset about it, we wouldn't be allowed to do anything if that were the case.

 

For men who hate having to spoil their girlfriends in what they consider to be stupid and commercial then maybe introduce her to "march 14" (nsfw if you search that) and just remember that what goes around, comes around. :(

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There were statistics in there, which showed people getting so upset over the pressure to be in a perfect, romantic relationship, that they committed suicide. Valentine's Day is seen as a big flashpoint for folk feeling inadequate and suffering from low self-esteem.

Coudn't you use those statistics for almost all major holidays? Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, etc - any holiday that promotes spending time with one's family?

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But what if that fun comes at the expense of other people getting depressed? I'm all for harmless fun, but not when it's fun which upsets others. There were statistics in there, which showed people getting so upset over the pressure to be in a perfect, romantic relationship, that they committed suicide. Valentine's Day is seen as a big flashpoint for folk feeling inadequate and suffering from low self-esteem.

 

(I should point out that I'm on in a relationship, but neither do I want to be. My self-esteem survives VD Day totally intact. tongue.png )

According to this logic, we should ban Mother's Day and Father's Day for people who have lost a parent; it doesn't really make much sense. I agree that Valentine's Day is kind of silly and I dislike the commercialism of it all, but I don't see how banning it would benefit anyone. To put it bluntly, the people that get upset by Valentine's Day aren't going to be any happier about their own life if we don't call this day what it is. Most importantly, everyone should have the freedom to celebrate! smile.png

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fudge it let's just get rid of Christmas and Easter while we're at it. They've all turned into present buying and chocolate eating fiascoes.

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But what if that fun comes at the expense of other people getting depressed?

For this reason I suggest this thread becomes "Should Valentines Day, all public holidays, all private holidays (birthdays, anniversaries etc), all public and private events, the acquiring of wealth, and all social gatherings of more than 2 people be banned?" Because for that reason, yes. Because people have committed suicide over such things before.

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Why do people have to take something perfectly harmless, find a fault in it and complain?

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I don't see how Valentine's Day is homophobic. The only reason why stores advertise only to heterosexuals is because there are (much) more of them. If stores started advertising toward homosexuals then they would probably lose heterosexual costumers because those heterosexual costumers would feel that the store's products are geared toward homosexuals instead of heterosexuals, and in consequence would buy products somewhere else.

 

Whenever I'm single Valentine's Day (which has been pretty much every Valentine's Day) I don't find it depressing. I just think about all the money I'd be spending if I had a valentine. :( If you do find it depressing maybe you should find someone to at least spend some time with that day.

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Should it be banned. No. Banning a holiday where the inherent damage is far less than the 'benefits' gained, banning is pointless. Christmas leads to a higher rate of suicide than any other holiday (family-oriented themes that lead those without, and already in a bad place, to further despair).

 

However, a boycott of the holiday is much more appropriate.

 

Valentine's Day is merely a way to cash in for one day of the year on the old fashioned ideas of romance.

 

As already stated it is a massive attempt to keep various industries in cash flow, and for others to cash in. The Greetings Card Industry (and the associated paraphernalia that goes along with it) gets another bump in sales, restaurants get a pleasant hike in prices, and the gifts that come along with it also go up in price (chocolates, flowers, large fluffy pieces of crap). The idea that to show my love for my other half I am meant to express it by spending lots of money on one specific day seems, to me, so exceptionally pointless.

 

It also carries on the old ideas of romance where the men are, generally, expected to foot the bill for this. I am not saying that guys paying is completely unnecessary (as paying for a first date to me often seems to be a sign of respect, usually because I am the one who asked them out) but a day where it is almost regimented in a day where one member of the relationship is to shower the other seems a little bit unbalanced, and to me seems to carry from a time when men earned the money and the women did not.

 

And finally, I see it as a shallow act to commercialise emotions between two people. As stated before, monetary value is used to express love, and many feel pressured into taking part, because of a fear of feeling like a cheap-skate, or the worry of annoying your other half by not doing enough/anything.

 

So yeah, banning, not so sharp, necessary or capable, but a boycott or non-participation to me seems crucial to redefining an outdated and unnecessary 'holiday.'

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Even though Valentine's Day is overcommercialized, is that really a reason to ban or boycott it? Are we going to boycott Christmas because it's the most overcommercialized holiday? No. I know Christmas is a bad example because it's religious, but look at Halloween. Think of all the companies that make money selling halloween themed items and costumes.

 

Overcommercialism is going to happen in Capitalism. People are always trying to make a buck. In my opinion deal with it.

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Overcommercialism is going to happen in Capitalism. People are always trying to make a buck. In my opinion deal with it.

No.

 

Over-commercialisation is a dangerous prerogative to allow in any society. Not because it is inherently evil but because of what it spawns. It produces a throw-away culture, a reduced appreciation of plastics and materials and the exploitation of international labour, land and resources. While Valentine's Day is not the cause of this problem, it is a side-effect of it, and a result of over-commercialisation.

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Overcommercialism is going to happen in Capitalism. People are always trying to make a buck. In my opinion deal with it.

No.

 

Over-commercialisation is a dangerous prerogative to allow in any society. Not because it is inherently evil but because of what it spawns. It produces a throw-away culture, a reduced appreciation of plastics and materials and the exploitation of international labour, land and resources. While Valentine's Day is not the cause of this problem, it is a side-effect of it, and a result of over-commercialisation.

 

Yeah, okay overcommerialization is bad. Agreed. But is it worth boycotting? Maybe you think so, but myself no. As long as overcommercialization doesn't go over the top I think it's manageable. Even if you or anyone else started a boycott it wouldn't work because even though most people see that overcommercialization is bad they don't see it as bad enough to do something about it. Overcommercialization isn't a Civil Rights issue, it's somebody trying to make money, and even if it is bad is it really going to effect the two weeks of the year which you see Valentine's Day advertisements? No, and if it is you're overthinking it.

 

Besides, Valentine's Day is really the least of the overcommercialization. Christmas is the worst. It's a religious holiday, but to most people Santa is more important to them than the birth of Christ.

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we should stress the love between family and friends including people in a relationship which it is Supposed to be about until people in England made it about romance

 

And then people in America and wherever else made it about giving junk to express your romance to make a quick buck

Edited by Breeze

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I can't help but think that the people who thought of this are depressed virgins who can't get laid.

 

Lol you can be getting laid and still hate valentine's day. It is pointless. All holidays are; they're arbitrary. Name one holiday that actually matters (not religious).

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I can't help but think that the people who thought of this are depressed virgins who can't get laid.

 

Lol you can be getting laid and still hate valentine's day. It is pointless. All holidays are; they're arbitrary. Name one holiday that actually matters (not religious).

 

Well tbh, Easter and Christmas. They've turned into holidays where families gather and catch up, exchange gifts, and just have wonderful times together.

 

Yeah the original meaning has being lost, but it's transformed, being modernized into something great.

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As has been mentioned, VD is just overcommercialised (as is nearly every holiday). The idea behind it is great, but the commercialisation is making it, like most other cases, cheap and worthless.

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I can't help but think that the people who thought of this are depressed virgins who can't get laid.

 

Lol you can be getting laid and still hate valentine's day. It is pointless. All holidays are; they're arbitrary. Name one holiday that actually matters (not religious).

 

Well tbh, Easter and Christmas. They've turned into holidays where families gather and catch up, exchange gifts, and just have wonderful times together.

 

Yeah the original meaning has being lost, but it's transformed, being modernized into something great.

Did you just completely miss the part that said not religious, or did you only kind of miss it? :( not everyone celebrates those.

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I guess it's nice for the slight economy boost but I'll never participate in it.

 

Not because it's so commercialized (every holiday is anyway), but because I strongly dislike just about any arbitrary holiday, New Year's Eve being one of the worst offenders as well.

 

There's nothing special about the day, but if you want the date on the calendar to dictate what days you should pay special attention to one another (or be happy suddenly for no apparent reason), hey, by all means, go ahead.

 

TL;DR: holidays are for scrubs

Edited by Kwinten

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