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Soccer or Football?

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It should actually be called soccer as that is what it originally was called

http://www.todayifou...he-word-soccer/

 

http://answers.yahoo...d=1005090600003

 

srry it should be called football

that just said it should be called soccer??

 

no.

 

football is the sport

 

soccer comes from the league

the link says "since football was already in use in the US to describe a different game they called it soccer"

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It should actually be called soccer as that is what it originally was called

http://www.todayifou...he-word-soccer/

 

http://answers.yahoo...d=1005090600003

 

srry it should be called football

that just said it should be called soccer??

 

no.

 

football is the sport

 

soccer comes from the league

the link says "since football was already in use in the US to describe a different game they called it soccer"

 

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_came_first_football_or_soccer

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It should actually be called soccer as that is what it originally was called

http://www.todayifou...he-word-soccer/

 

http://answers.yahoo...d=1005090600003

 

srry it should be called football

that just said it should be called soccer??

 

no.

 

football is the sport

 

soccer comes from the league

the link says "since football was already in use in the US to describe a different game they called it soccer"

 

http://wiki.answers....tball_or_soccer

okay, so the sport is called football and the league of soccer right?

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It should actually be called soccer as that is what it originally was called

http://www.todayifou...he-word-soccer/

 

http://answers.yahoo...d=1005090600003

 

srry it should be called football

that just said it should be called soccer??

 

no.

 

football is the sport

 

soccer comes from the league

the link says "since football was already in use in the US to describe a different game they called it soccer"

 

http://wiki.answers....tball_or_soccer

That still doesn't make a difference; American football was named before European football. The only reason why Europeans don't call it soccer is because American football did not exist in Europe at the time.

 

This is like debating color-colour. People call the same things different names in different parts of the world. Deal with it. I personally call European Football soccer because if I called it football people would think I'm talking about American football and/or I'd be called an English wannabe. There is no correct or better way of saying it. I hate it when people call what I call soccer "real football" or "where you have to actually use your feet football" because they are making a bad joke out of (currently) the biggest sport in America and (imo) touting their European superiority while they are at it. Not trying to get personal here, just want to say how stupid it is. And I'm not defending Americans who say soccer is the best.

 

It's a good game (if you were born in America you'd actually likely be a fan of it) and yes *gasp* you actually do have to use your feet for something other than running.

 

Edit: Okay I got carried away with that European superiority part but you get what I mean.

Edited by Sobend

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It's a good game (if you were born in America you'd actually likely be a fan of it)

So your love for American football is not of your own, but crammed in since youth? :P

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football cause in portuguese its futebol which sounds like football

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american football was created or began evolving from rugby in 1874 for 30 years(source http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_American_football_invented_and_who_invented_it)

 

and sheffield fc was founded in 1857 which is known as the oldest club ever according to fifa (source https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=when+was+sheffield+fc+founded&aq=0&oq=when+was+sheffield+fc&sugexp=chrome,mod=0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

 

so ye

 

finally done my research in a clear manner

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It's a good game (if you were born in America you'd actually likely be a fan of it)

So your love for American football is not of your own, but crammed in since youth? :P

Yes, I've been brainwashed into liking American football :( . No, just regional thing. I'm sure I'd be a big fan of what you call football if I was born and raised in your neck of the woods.

 

american football was created or began evolving from rugby in 1874 for 30 years(source http://wiki.answers....who_invented_it)

Considering the first college (American) football game was played in 1869 between Rutgers and Princeton, American football definately was around before 1874. Your source there is flawed. And before you say "well 1857 beats 1869 so ha," I'm sure American football was named and played before 1869. It's not like they just decided to name it they day of the game. You would need to research multiple reliable sources (not wikianswers...) before you could get a clear answer to which was named first.

 

And did sheffield FC actually name the sport they were playing at the time football or something else? That may be something to look into.

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It's a good game (if you were born in America you'd actually likely be a fan of it)

So your love for American football is not of your own, but crammed in since youth? :P

Yes, I've been brainwashed into liking American football :( . No, just regional thing. I'm sure I'd be a big fan of what you call football if I was born and raised in your neck of the woods.

 

american football was created or began evolving from rugby in 1874 for 30 years(source http://wiki.answers....who_invented_it)

Considering the first college (American) football game was played in 1869 between Rutgers and Princeton, American football definately was around before 1874. Your source there is flawed. And before you say "well 1857 beats 1869 so ha," I'm sure American football was named and played before 1869. It's not like they just decided to name it they day of the game. You would need to research multiple reliable sources (not wikianswers...) before you could get a clear answer to which was named first.

 

And did sheffield FC actually name the sport they were playing at the time football or something else? That may be something to look into.

 

sources are friggen hard to come by without information that is incorrect :/ or biased (even tho my sources have still got bias in them)

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sources are friggen hard to come by without information that is incorrect :/ or biased (even tho my sources have still got bias in them)

 

Books are probably the best sources because most solid history books need to have good information, otherwise they would not have been published. I read a book about the beginnings of baseball (another sport) and was really surprised by what I read. Stuff the average person would not know.

 

Because I'm assuming your European and because American football is not popular there, it would be hard to find books on that. But I'd say that wikipedia has fairly reliable information because even though it can be edited by anybody it is regularly monitored so people don't put in crap.

 

I found this American football stuff on wikipedia:

 

Although there are mentions of Native Americans playing ball games, modern American football has its origins in traditional ball games played at villages and schools in Europe for many centuries before America was settled by Europeans. There are reports of early settlers at Jamestown, Virginia playing games with inflated balls in the early 17th century.

 

Early games appear to have had much in common with the traditional "mob football" played in England, especially on Shrove Tuesday. The games remained largely unorganized until the 19th century, when intramural games of football began to be played on college campuses. Each school played its own variety of football. Princeton students played a game called "ballown" as early as 1820. A Harvard tradition known as "Bloody Monday" began in 1827, which consisted of a mass ballgame between the freshman and sophomore classes. Dartmouth played its own version called "Old division football", the rules of which were first published in 1871, though the game dates to at least the 1830s. All of these games, and others, shared certain commonalities. They remained largely "mob" style games, with huge numbers of players attempting to advance the ball into a goal area, often by any means necessary. Rules were simple, violence and injury were common. The violence of these mob-style games led to widespread protests and a decision to abandon them. Yale, under pressure from the city of New Haven, banned the play of all forms of football in 1860, while Harvard followed suit in 1861

 

It still doesn't really go in as depth as a book would though. For example, it doesn't mention when American football actually was first named American football. Later it says that the first club was founded in 1862.

 

It's also important to note that the football mentioned in the paragraph would be an almost unrecognizable game to Americans today as, like all other old sports, American football has evolved. It was much more violent (it really remained that way until the government got involved in the early 20th century) and some rules (there were different variants of the game) stated that you could not pick up the ball (like a mash up of rugby and European football).

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I call it football. In my country it is called football, in most other languages it is translatable as football, in most countries where football is a decent sized sport it is called football.

 

I don't like the sound of the word soccer, but the thing that grates me about the word soccer is more the people who live in countries where the sport is called FOOTBALL and still call it soccer. Despite the idiotic stuff I've spouted on here in the past about America calling the game soccer, I don't particularly have a problem with people calling it that. Except for when they're a minority in fans of people who call the game "football", as talking about football in Americanised terms is one of the quickest ways to sound like you have no idea of what's going on, even if you're very knowledgeable about the game.

 

tl;dr: I call it football but don't really care what others call it, as long as it doesn't sound stupid.

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most books need to have good information, otherwise they would not have been published
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Isn't football called exactly the same all over the world with the obvious exception of U.S.A?

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Isn't football called exactly the same all over the world with the obvious exception of U.S.A?

In Italy it's called "calcio", thanks to Mussolini

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i have developed a list of new words we can call the football related sports

 

Football (AUS(AFL)): 4 post fun

Football (USA(NFL)): Hurtball

Football (European(Soccer)): Sphere kicker

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Isn't football called exactly the same all over the world with the obvious exception of U.S.A?

In Italy it's called "calcio", thanks to Mussolini

 

calcio

 

watf

 

my school's mitre footballs are called the calcios!!!!

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Isn't football called exactly the same all over the world with the obvious exception of U.S.A?

In Italy it's called "calcio", thanks to Mussolini

 

calcio

 

watf

 

my school's mitre footballs are called the calcios!!!!

That's what the ball's named after lol

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sources are friggen hard to come by without information that is incorrect :/ or biased (even tho my sources have still got bias in them)

 

Books are probably the best sources because most books need to have good information, otherwise they would not have been published.

Yeah I wish that were true, but it's not.

Well I really meant books about historical information, not books in general. Books with historical information also often contain sources so you can check the facts.

 

Edited my post to make myself more clear. I can understand the confusion.

Edited by Sobend

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When it comes to Language we Americans are in no position to demand or expect anything, seeing as how we can barely even speak what we call "English". It's Football, get over yourself.

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I've always called it soccer because that's what its always been to me. To me, it shouldn't matter what you call the sport as long as the name gets the point across. I think both names accomplish this.

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