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The Slayer model

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Version 9.4 Here

 

The slayer model is a spreadsheet tool that requires no download. It can be used to predict various outcomes of your personal slayer task list such as how long your goal will take and how many charms you will get. I have been testing slayer on and off for over 2 years and have created this tool, I hope you can make great use of it smile.gif

To use it you simply need to log in to your google account, click file and click make a copy and then you will be able to edit your copy to suit how you prefer to slay.

 

The task input interface

 

 

http://puu.sh/1KRkD

The input should be self explanatory. Here you specify which tasks you do, block and cancel and how fast you kill the monsters. The default kills per hour are based on the fastest method to kill monsters, normally this means using a cannon, steel titan, overloads, prayers and abilities.

When changing which tasks are done and cancelled keep an eye on the E(Slayer points) output, this number is how many points you will gain on average per task assigned. If this is negative that means that the task list specified is not sustainable long term and you will lose points. You should aim to have a positive E(Slayer points) value unless you have excess points to get rid of. Players looking to optimise which tasks they block and which they cancel should look at the “Task logs” sheet to see how common each of the tasks that they wish to avoid are and block the most common of those to save points.

Input how many you kill per hour, you cannot simply put in your xp per hour but just use this to know when you have entered the correct kills per hour.

 

 

 

The drops input interface

 

 

http://puu.sh/39BvT.png

The drops input allows you to choose what you want to do with drops such as charms and bones Outputs related to the drops inputs are shown here.

Options appear in a drop down box. Click the cell you want to change and click the small arrow beside the cell the make the list appear.

http://puu.sh/1KQdn

Choosing which minor drops you want to pick up is explained later.

 

 

 

The combat input interface

 

 

http://puu.sh/39ByU.png

This interface allows you to choose what weapons you use for monsters of each weakness. The cost for runes, arrows and repairing weapons will be determined by what you put in here. You should note that changing weapon choices and such will not automatically update your kills per hour, these inputs are for calculating the cost of repairing weaons and the cost of ammunition.

Options appear in a drop down box. Click the cell you want to change and then click the small arrow that appears beside it to see the list.

http://puu.sh/1KQdn

 

 

 

Task frequencies and effigies

 

Task frequencies are got from the knowledge base/official wiki here http://services.rune..._Master#Kuradal Those serious about conserving slayer points should look at the 'Task logs' sheet to see how common monsters are and block the most common of the ones you plan to not do.

The effigy drop rate of monsters is simply assumed to be 1/4 of the drop rate prior to the nerf. A formula for the drop rate before the effigy nerf was determined by xp-waste research and it was fairly accurate. Taking effigies to be 1 quarter the previous drop rate is not accurate but effigies are so rare and have little affect now that this isn't a big problem. I will however continue logging effigy drops to improve the accuracy of the formula.

 

 

Combat and herbicide xp

 

Combat xp shown is based on an average gotten on task. In the combat input you can choose to get Ranged xp or Defence xp or Ranged and defence xp, and likewise for magic and melee. If you select to not use a steel titan this will adjust your ranged xp gain accordingly but it will always assume that you use a cannon (except for monsters in the polypore dungeon where a cannon isn't useful).

 

The amount of xp gotten from the herbicide is typically based off of a sample of 1000+ kills, more for tasks that drop a lot of herbs (e.g. Spectres), less for tasks that rarely drop herbs (e.g. Wyvern).

 

 

Charms

 

Charm drop rates are primarily based on Zarfot's slayer log because I believe he is a reliable source of information. Zarfot's log only shows drop rates of blue, crimson and green charms and so the drop rate of gold charms and the charm drop rates of monsters released after Zarfot quit are gotten from runescape wiki. When calculating the time you spend training summoning the model will check to see if you can complete your summoning goal using only blue charms- then crimson and blue ect and if you do not have enough charms it assumes you barrage dagganoth for the remaining xp at 200k summoning xp/hr.

 

 

Tradable drops and profits

 

Perhaps the most important part of the spreadsheet for many players is the predicted profits/losses of their task list. Players can select which drops they want to pick up in the “Drop selection” sheet. Enter either a 1 if you pick up the item or 0 if you don't. To begin with it is assumed that players pick up some but not all of the drops.

http://puu.sh/39BFN Example of the drop selection sheet

I log all drops of reasonable value most tasks, however cheap drops such as death runes from nechryael are based off of a small sample size as I am not bothered picking up every single drop- as are most players.

Each time I log a drop it will automatically update the drop log in your copy. The drop rate of the draconic visage is gotten from a thread on the runescape forums, they have a huge number of kills logged and I believe they are a reliable source of information.

Rare drop table drops can be a number of drops such as tooth half of key, 100 noted runite ore and uncut dragonstones.

Note that the price shown is for 1 of the dropped item but the monster might drop several at once.

 

For the overall profit figure the cost of cannonballs, scrolls, arrows, runes, repairing weapons and prayer potions are all included.

 

Edited by Thai_tong

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I see this is getting quite a few views but no replies

I know people don't like to click links from people new to the forum. If its any reassurance here's a picture of Mod Sabre saying he'd use it.

http://puu.sh/1MyCH

Maxed players can see it for themselves in the high level forum, quick find code 259-260-807-64180342

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I see this is getting quite a few views but no replies

I know people don't like to click links from people new to the forum. If its any reassurance here's a picture of Mod Sabre saying he'd use it.

Thai, I doubt that's the problem. I believe the problem is that the tool is somewhat difficult for people to understand, especially if they have never used spreadsheets before. Not to mention that there really aren't many RS players that use this forum in the first place.

 

That said, I have a question about how accurate the estimates are for EoC combat. Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, but I haven't seen that much research about EoC.

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I see this is getting quite a few views but no replies

I know people don't like to click links from people new to the forum. If its any reassurance here's a picture of Mod Sabre saying he'd use it.

Not to mention that there really aren't many RS players that use this forum in the first place.

That, and those of them left there are very few that care about efficiency that much to try and get the prefect slayer task list.

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I see this is getting quite a few views but no replies

I know people don't like to click links from people new to the forum. If its any reassurance here's a picture of Mod Sabre saying he'd use it.

Thai, I doubt that's the problem. I believe the problem is that the tool is somewhat difficult for people to understand, especially if they have never used spreadsheets before. Not to mention that there really aren't many RS players that use this forum in the first place.

 

That said, I have a question about how accurate the estimates are for EoC combat. Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, but I haven't seen that much research about EoC.

I'm not sure which estimates you are referring to. If you mean the weapon inputs; changing the weapon will not change the kills per hour figure, if you downgrade form a zaryte bow to a crystal bow you will also have to change your kills per hour to make it slower. Changing weapons will only directly change the costs involved as different weapons decay slower and some dont use ammunition. Similarly changing to momentum will only directly affect how many runes you use due not being able to activate metamorphisis. Using a still titan will change your range xp and scrolls used but not your kills per hour.

 

I see this is getting quite a few views but no replies

I know people don't like to click links from people new to the forum. If its any reassurance here's a picture of Mod Sabre saying he'd use it.

Not to mention that there really aren't many RS players that use this forum in the first place.

That, and those of them left there are very few that care about efficiency that much to try and get the prefect slayer task list.

They don't have to get the efficiency figure as low as possible, a laid back player can put in which tasks they find fun and see how much it will cost. I have tried to make the inputs as generalised as possible to allow many types of players to use it.

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Thankfully the slayer update didn't add any new tasks to kuradal. I believe that doing tasks in slayer tower is an extra 20% to slayer xp. I don't think its worth doing abberant spectres there but gargoyles spawns are similar to kuradal's dungeon. Nechs are less cramped than in the chaos tunnels which makes hurricane and quake worse, abyssal demons will probably be worth doing there. When the tower isn't crowded I'll test the tasks and change their xp per kill if necessary.

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I will try to use the bestiary to find a formula between monster stats and how often a monster is assigned. Then if there is a new monster I can add it in without much difficulty.

Edited by Thai_tong

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Hooray. I finally got around to updating this, it now includes automatons and avansies but not the new task released 2 days ago. It is simplified a bit to minimise the amount of information you must enter and should also lag less.

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I've fixed monsters xp to bring them in line with the recent change to monster xp. Some bad tasks like living rocks and aberrant specs had their combat xp increased.

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Looks interesting for sure. This should get more attention.

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Killing the queen black dragon is now an option for black dragon tasks. Smokey9112 logged the drops from 1001 qbd kills

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Good job Thai I know you have been telling me about this for a very long time since we known each other. Just curious is this also posted on the rsof or what?

 

As I need to start training slayer anyway I do plan to use this :)

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Good job Thai I know you have been telling me about this for a very long time since we known each other. Just curious is this also posted on the rsof or what?

It is posted on the high level forum where links are allowed

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There's now an option for using mortania legs to boost xp in slayer tower. I assume that anyone who selects using slayer contracts will be killing abberant specs in slayer tower instead of cannoning them in pollniveach slayer dungeon.

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