mr n3wb Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I haven't posted in here in a long time... Probably years. Although, I just saw an interesting thread on a certain forum i browse. it linked to a recent update on RS about their new feature called bonds. safe to say after reading it, it is the nail in the coffin to an amazing game i grew up on and had so much fun playing. what do you all think about this update? like it? hate it? did it kill your childhood like it did mine? Quote
Lonelywolf Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 here is video for any1 who doesnt no what he is talking bout i find it funny how srs he is trying 2 be likes its a game not the actual economy lel O.K, so I just finished the video and I'm not really sure how this will help reduce gold farming. Won't Gold-farming bots just become "Bond-farming" bots now? For example, trading the gold they make from gold-farming in exchange for these bonds at a ratio in favour of said gold farmers? Wait, are they removing GP? wat Quote
reepicheep Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 It's not quite RWT because you don't actually get money for selling your gold, it's just that you give money to Jagex for gold. Sounds kind of like what they've done with EVE Online where you can spend ingame money to buy membership from other players. It's not entirely clear how it works but it could, maybe? I see no point in shouting about it until we know exactly how it works. Quote
Luvandpower Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKodYWxZ9g nuff said Quote
reepicheep Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKodYWxZ9g nuff said The only actual point it makes is that it helps only Jagex and rich kids. What, then, about all the people who can't/don't want to pay for membership and can now do it by selling their money? It's RWT except botters don't benefit and everybody else either does or isn't affected. Quote
Luvandpower Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Oh I fully agree I was just linked to it earlier from a friend and was too tempted had to post it :) Quote
-Leaf- Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 First of all, the idea that this will stop gold farmers in any way is complete bull****. Won't Gold-farming bots just become "Bond-farming" bots now? That said, being able to buy membership with ingame money is something that I personally wanted for a long time. I do realize that this feature causes a world of problems (after all, they did just officially add RWT to the game), but if I were still playing the game, I would not even care, because the game is now actually playable for free. That's me personally though - I know this will negatively affect many others. For example, I think bonds are 5m each on the forums right now. For a high-level player that can make 5m per hour, an extra hour to grind every 2 weeks is nothing; for lower-level players, paying with ingame cash is simply not worth the time. How is the economy going right now? Would 5m per hour be easy to do? Quote
mr n3wb Posted September 27, 2013 Author Posted September 27, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Quote
Fabis Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. Quote
reepicheep Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Quote
Fabis Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Because you can buy membership from RWTraders for cheaper... Quote
reepicheep Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Because you can buy membership from RWTraders for cheaper... Yeah, I get that, but how is it going to make RWT itself more popular is what I'm saying? Or is it going to get even cheaper than it already was, and if so, couldn't that possibly just discourage botters from opening shop because it won't pay as much as it used to? Quote
Sukid Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 (edited) I think they probably introduced this a tad too late. From what I can tell 5m really isn't a lot these days, but in the old days $5 for 5m would be amazing. ... then again less people would have amounts of 5m to pay for them back then so I dunno. :F I think it's just fine. Pay to win is inevitable in games like this whether people do it through official channels or not. I'm glad they finally realized that and just gave people a safe and easy way to do it that doesn't really super badly affect the economy. It's a hell of a lot better than farmers introducing tons and tons of resources into the game plummeting their prices to almost nothing and it doesn't put any more coins into circulation. You just trade them to other players for coins. But yeah I don't know if it will actually change anything either. I have read that a dollar per mill can be over twice what farmers can charge. :F Edited September 27, 2013 by Sukid Quote
Dei Wei Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 How is the economy going right now? Would 5m per hour be easy to do? I can get 4m per hour at ganos, with drygores you can make 3m+ per hour maybe more but im not quiet sure. If you have good equipment or good at merching 5m is not much at all. Quote
Lonelywolf Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Because you can buy membership from RWTraders for cheaper... Yeah, I get that, but how is it going to make RWT itself more popular is what I'm saying? Or is it going to get even cheaper than it already was, and if so, couldn't that possibly just discourage botters from opening shop because it won't pay as much as it used to? more popular than Jagex because no one wants to pay more for something they can get for less. Just look at the price of gp per mil, it used to be like $1, even higher, and now it's dropped to 20 cents or something per mil last time I checked. Did anyone stop selling gold? No. It will be the same for membership. Edited September 28, 2013 by Bill is LONELY in his tree Quote
reepicheep Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Because you can buy membership from RWTraders for cheaper... Yeah, I get that, but how is it going to make RWT itself more popular is what I'm saying? Or is it going to get even cheaper than it already was, and if so, couldn't that possibly just discourage botters from opening shop because it won't pay as much as it used to? more popular than Jagex because no one wants to pay more for something they can get for less. Just look at the price of gp per mil, it used to be like $1, even higher, and now it's dropped to 20 cents or something per mil last time I checked. Did anyone stop selling gold? No. It will be the same for membership. But don't forget that people will have to do 5 times as much work to get the same amount of money. That could very well turn people off botting. Quote
Fabis Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 i heard someone compare it to a feature they have in EVE which is something similar to this that didnt really help their botting problem Yeah, in EVE you can buy extra membership time with ingame money from other players. It isn't going to help at all. Look at Diablo 3, they might not have had a bot problem, but they do have a RWT problem even though they have the marketplace. What will happen is, RWTraders will just sell membership for less than Jagex is selling it for, and RWT will get even more popular. More popular? How so? Because you can buy membership from RWTraders for cheaper... Yeah, I get that, but how is it going to make RWT itself more popular is what I'm saying? Or is it going to get even cheaper than it already was, and if so, couldn't that possibly just discourage botters from opening shop because it won't pay as much as it used to? more popular than Jagex because no one wants to pay more for something they can get for less. Just look at the price of gp per mil, it used to be like $1, even higher, and now it's dropped to 20 cents or something per mil last time I checked. Did anyone stop selling gold? No. It will be the same for membership. But don't forget that people will have to do 5 times as much work to get the same amount of money. That could very well turn people off botting. It's still basically free money. Quote
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