Good Free VPN?

[Ak-47]

Let's just say if I were to do sketchy things, what would be the most optimal VPN for free? I'm willing to shell out a few bucks a month but to be honest I'd rather not if there's a free alternative

[reepicheep]

'Sketchy things'? I'm guessing you mean buying games and then activating them through a VPN? If so, using VPNs is generally not a very reliable method.

[20000_Posts]

If you're not paying for something, you're the product. If you want privacy, I don't recommend using a free VPN.

 

Additionally, you want a VPN service that doesn't keep logs/records, here's a list of some: http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-that-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2013-edition-130302/

[Igloo2]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough. If they can't track you by IP address, they use Google ads / cookies (google-analytics is on every webpage) or they use a zero day browser exploit to put spyware on your computer or they rely on your stupidity - If you login to Facebook and then do your illegal thing on a different site within the same browsing session / didn't clear your browser's history/cookies, you've just revealed who's using your computer!

• If you're doing P2P or just trying to unblock youtube videos or something, any old VPN will work, but you should consider choosing one that has no affiliation the USA and aren't run by US citizens. If a server is in the US, then it's subject to those government letters that say "You either have the option of bugging your website or shutting down, and if you tell anyone you got this letter, you're going to jail". You can bet the business isn't going to shutdown for you. This is why I recommend Mulvad as a VPN provider.
  

• If you're doing something the government actually cares about, use TOR, turn on noscript, and click the help > about firefox button to update the browser. If you want to go above any beyond use the Tails linux live CD.
  

• If you're just reading about illegal stuff, you don't have much to worry about. Just install https-everywhere, use startpage.com as your search engine, and click only click on the wikipedia (https) results.
  

You should expect that any free proxy is run by hackers or the government and as you're data passes through their server, they're keeping a copy of your usernames and passwords for themselves, or at least have logging enabled. As that old saying goes, you get what you pay for.

 

Something you have to watch out for are VPNs that claim to not log anything. I find it's often true and false at the same time. They'll turn logging off but when the government sends them a letter that says one of your users is doing something bad, they turn logging on temporarily to locate and ban that user - You're only safe the first time you do the illegal thing, not the second time and beyond. I'd say this is true for most VPNs. They can't have users sending bulk spam.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Igloo2

[Ak-47]

im not really hiding from the government, just wanted some privacy for sketchy shizzle(not really illegal but i'd rather not delve into it)

[reepicheep]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

Edited October 7, 2013 by reepicheep

[Ak-47]

once again im not hiding from the government, i really dont care if they see what i do, this is for alternate reasons and while i feel i should explain myself i'd rather not since to be fair i really don't want to

Edited October 7, 2013 by Ak-47

[Sofee]

I used to use SecurityKISS tunnel. Quite a good one. Been there done that with 'sketchy things' and this one worked like a charm. I don't know if it's still good though, you'll have to check that out.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Sofee

[20000_Posts]

Is this about furry porn?

[reepicheep]

Is this about furry porn?

I suppose the question was inevitable

[zooey]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

[reepicheep]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

[zooey]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

[reepicheep]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

How many things that are morally wrong are not legally wrong, and vice versa?

[zooey]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

How many things that are morally wrong are not legally wrong, and vice versa?

A lot of things, especially as morals aren't set in stone, but are you saying the government should be a moral compass?

[reepicheep]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

How many things that are morally wrong are not legally wrong, and vice versa?

A lot of things, especially as morals aren't set in stone, but are you saying the government should be a moral compass?

How am I saying that? I'm just saying that usually society's morals and the government's morals align. Why are you trying to turn this into a debate on morality? I don't see any point in continuing this discussion here.

[zooey]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

How many things that are morally wrong are not legally wrong, and vice versa?

A lot of things, especially as morals aren't set in stone, but are you saying the government should be a moral compass?

How am I saying that? I'm just saying that usually society's morals and the government's morals align. Why are you trying to turn this into a debate on morality? I don't see any point in continuing this discussion here.

Desiring privacy/anonymity from the government, which is what you originally implied was a bad thing, shouldn't be branded as such. I was asking if your "shouldn't" was referring to the legal side or moral side. I'd agree that it's risky legally.

[reepicheep]

Due to the recent whistle blowing on the US government's spying and other things reported on the news, it's been shown that using TOR or a VPN is not enough.

Actually, the only thing that allowed the NSA anything to do with Tor was the browser, they couldn't trace anything to do with the Tor network itself.

 

EDIT: Also let me just mention that if something you're doing is something you feel you need to hide from the government it's probably not something you should be doing, but I'll leave it at that.

if you want privacy from the government you must be a bad person?

If you want privacy from the government then you're likely doing things you shouldn't be. You're putting words in my mouth. Doing things you shouldn't doesn't make you a bad person.

Are you talking about morality or legality?

How many things that are morally wrong are not legally wrong, and vice versa?

A lot of things, especially as morals aren't set in stone, but are you saying the government should be a moral compass?

How am I saying that? I'm just saying that usually society's morals and the government's morals align. Why are you trying to turn this into a debate on morality? I don't see any point in continuing this discussion here.

Desiring privacy/anonymity from the government, which is what you originally implied was a bad thing, shouldn't be branded as such. I was asking if your "shouldn't" was referring to the legal side or moral side. I'd agree that it's risky legally.

Given that the government's laws in a democracy are generally intended to be defined by society's morals I'd say it doesn't matter. But let's nevertheless drop this.

[Ak-47]

It's something League of Legends related, and not furry porn. I delved in it, I'll probably change my mind and edit this later.

 

 

No, I'm not hacking.

 

 

I have not confessed to anything

[reepicheep]

It's something League of Legends related, and not furry porn. I delved in it, I'll probably change my mind and edit this later.

 

 

No, I'm not hacking.

 

 

I have not confessed to anything

If it's game related, VPNs might work. Probably a little slow though.

Edited October 8, 2013 by reepicheep

[Ak-47]

It's something League of Legends related, and not furry porn. I delved in it, I'll probably change my mind and edit this later.

 

 

No, I'm not hacking.

 

 

I have not confessed to anything

If it's game related, VPNs might work. Probably a little slow though.

Do you know any good ones that would cost minimal lag + cheap for a month? I checked Freedoms link and think HiI am a bot, please report mess might be useful

 

 

 

edit - think ill get this - https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/

Edited October 8, 2013 by Ak-47